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Old Feb 7th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #1
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GTT230 Spec, what next?

My car is now at the GTT230 stage, i had GTT220 fitted but have since fitted the exhaust re-route pipe, GRS intercooler & Samco inlet hose.

So what's next?? I am spending some money on other area's of the car at the moment so i dont have bottomless pockets for headwork, turbo conversions etc. Plus i've only just moved into my first own house

I am happy with the performance of my car, but you can always have more! I can keep with my mates Remapped LCR but keeping up just isnt enough...

What would be the next logical step for reasonable money, that will give me the best increases for my cash?

thanks, listening with interest.

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Old Feb 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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In order... Leakdown test, dyno run, 440cc injectors, 1320 cam, dyno run, smile smugly at 240 bhp+ results.
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leak down test? talk to me....

what kind of money are we talking for injectors and 1320 cam, including fitting?

i like the sound of the results
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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 12:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Leakdown test info:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...t-results.html

it's worth doing the leakdown as a health check before trying to increase BHP on what could be a poorly engine.

Best mods to do next and prices (440cc injectors shouldn't cost much more than the 380cc ones):

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...-cyl-head.html
http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ling-road.html
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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 03:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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what is a remapped LCR??

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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 08:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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LCR; remapped Leon Cupra R, 265-270bhp
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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 08:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)
Leakdown test info:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...t-results.html

it's worth doing the leakdown as a health check before trying to increase BHP on what could be a poorly engine.

Best mods to do next and prices (440cc injectors shouldn't cost much more than the 380cc ones):

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...-cyl-head.html
http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ling-road.html

ok brill thanks
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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 08:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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if you havnt already got them fitted a strut brace and rear sway bar do absolute wonders for the handling. Had i known the difference it would have been one of the first mods i did.

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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 09:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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it sounds like my first step is a manifold and sports cat!

keep suggestions flowing though!
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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 09:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)
In order... Leakdown test, dyno run, 440cc injectors, 1320 cam, dyno run, smile smugly at 240 bhp+ results.

I think you`d need a remap as well Ben as 440`s will be a bit rich on their own from what ive heard. Paul was telling me the 272bhp car was coping still on 380`s but only needed the 440`s for the top end as it was starting to lean out a bit
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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 09:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)
In order... Leakdown test, dyno run, 440cc injectors, 1320 cam, dyno run, smile smugly at 240 bhp+ results.


Pretty much the same as Big Show said + manifold and cat and remap if you fit the 440cc as Loui said

If you do have some extra money or save up and buy the cylinder head. This will give you a very good gain!



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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 01:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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got a BBK after getting to gtt 230, assume your not on s-spokes - next thing i am looking at is upgrade rear anti roll bar..

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Old Feb 8th, 2008, 02:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Manifold mate, or the whole Milteck System, thats wat i ran on my GTT 230 upgrade makes a nice sound too
Check my videos on youtube
Gives you an idea of sound ..
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Hi, Mark go for the GTT 2pc manifold next , then 440cc injectors fitted + our GTT Adjustable fuel pressure regulator. This is alot cheaper than a remap and allows you to adjust the overall open loop fuelling as required as you mod further. Also prevents fuel pressure over manifold pressure dipping off above approx 17psi as it will with the stock reg. You can then have the Shrick cam fitted later and the pressure tweaked very easily at no extra charge if done at the same time.
We have applied this setup to a number of cars now, and wide band tested verified the AF ratios on the road under all conditions of load/rpm/gear/roadspeed.
Or as mentioned a quartet of GTT braces would do wonders for the handling !
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Go for the braces

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Go for the braces

braces? but my trousers dont fall down?!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Loui (original)
I think you`d need a remap as well Ben as 440`s will be a bit rich on their own from what ive heard. Paul was telling me the 272bhp car was coping still on 380`s but only needed the 440`s for the top end as it was starting to lean out a bit

True but rich equals flames

In that case Meeerrrk stick with the 380's and no remap... I know you said you didn't have deep pockets and mani's aren't cheap and in my case a janspeed mani with sports cat and milltek only gave 5-7bhp but it does sound the nuts, although much louder than neilobe's video and darn expensive.

So for big bangs for smallish bucks I don't think you can beat the 1320 cam and 380cc injectors.

As with everything though it pays to get an all inclusive quote from all the tuners as well as asking for expected bhp gains, and then ask for a tuner penalty of £25 for every BHP the conversion doesn't release
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Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)
Hi, Mark go for the GTT 2pc manifold next , then 440cc injectors fitted + our GTT Adjustable fuel pressure regulator. This is alot cheaper than a remap and allows you to adjust the overall open loop fuelling as required as you mod further. Also prevents fuel pressure over manifold pressure dipping off above approx 17psi as it will with the stock reg. You can then have the Shrick cam fitted later and the pressure tweaked very easily at no extra charge if done at the same time.
We have applied this setup to a number of cars now, and wide band tested verified the AF ratios on the road under all conditions of load/rpm/gear/roadspeed.
Or as mentioned a quartet of GTT braces would do wonders for the handling !
best Regards Roland GTT

You're giving me ideas for what to put on my GTT shopping list this year Roland! (The boot brace doesn't count - that was a brucey bonus! )

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thanks for the info everyone, very interesting. Some food for thought there.

Manifold and cat sounds like the first port of call then, i can see im getting more air in but i am not opening up it's route out!

Then maybe later in the year go for injectors and a cam.

Thanks everyone
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Quote: Originally Posted by Meeerrrk (original)
thanks for the info everyone, very interesting. Some food for thought there.

Manifold and cat sounds like the first port of call then, i can see im getting more air in but i am not opening up it's route out!

Then maybe later in the year go for injectors and a cam.

Thanks everyone

I can highly recommend the GTT manifold and sports CAT

GTT, GRS, Janspeed, JCW, OMP + various other bits - 232.6bhp, 191.2lbft on 1320's rolling road
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