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Paul Webster · Apr 7th, 2008, 09:33 AM

Cheers Chap, Emma comes back with some wonderful new words from her students

Cooooooperslad · Apr 7th, 2008, 08:11 PM

Just out of interest Paul, what kind of price range are you looking at for a duplicate engine of big shows, 280bhp. Including all parts and labour etc.

A minimum and maximum price?

Paul Webster · Apr 8th, 2008, 11:12 PM

Are you tired off the Focus ST now, you can ask Ben how quick silver ones are

Revolution Mini Works · Apr 9th, 2008, 12:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Are you tired off the Focus ST now, you can ask Ben how quick silver ones are

Even the Bobbies know RMW/1320 cars are blindingly fast

Cooooooperslad · Apr 9th, 2008, 04:13 PM

BMW 320Cd Sport Paul :P

Just intrested mate, I've recommended your company over GTT and Lohen to about 4 lads I know from the "Corsa-C" forum who have upgraded to Cooper S's

Paul Webster · Apr 9th, 2008, 05:16 PM

Thanks for the recommendations, did you tell them to steer clear of certain cat backs

Aberdeen Al · Apr 9th, 2008, 08:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

did you tell them to steer clear of certain cat backs

Which certain cat-back are you talking about???

Ant FR · Apr 10th, 2008, 08:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aberdeen Al (original)

Which certain cat-back are you talking about???

thats what i was gonna ask

Paul Webster · Apr 10th, 2008, 09:26 AM

I new I shouldn't of said anything, it was quite a popular one and was proberly I'm sure was just a one off but it killed the power off his Mini, as it went on another car and done exactly the same to that one.

This is why dynoing your car is important, just to make sure you're getting what you should be irrespective of make of pulley intercooler cat back air filter etc etc.

As Big Show stated the other day he went from 218 to 239, but he could of stayed at 218 quite happly.

I suppose I do enjoy problem cars because I want to find the answer, more of a challange than just bolting stuff on and getting what it should be. Does that make sense?

Ant FR · Apr 10th, 2008, 09:48 AM

that means it was milltek then

batou · Apr 10th, 2008, 09:51 AM

You could have just left the can-o-worms shut Ant lol, I'm sure most would figure that out being there is only one popular cat back on here

roland2003 · Apr 10th, 2008, 10:04 AM

B004 Lee GTT300T c/w Miltek cat back....................391bhp proven on independant RR.Also proved the best in our back pressure tests.
Are we defending because we stock it?No ,we dont even normally carry it, Lohen are doing a GB on it and I'll still recommend it over others.

batou · Apr 10th, 2008, 10:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

B004 Lee GTT300T c/w Miltek cat back....................391bhp proven on independant RR.Also proved the best in our back pressure tests.
Are we defending because we stock it?No ,we dont even normally carry it, Lohen are doing a GB on it and I'll still recommend it over others.

Like Paul said he's sure was just a one off anyway besides won't back pressures be different on the turbo car or am I talking rollocks? I nearly went miltek but personally, it's too loud, I prefer stealth and less drone than stock on motorways (JCW)

MINI-Morgan · Apr 10th, 2008, 10:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

Like Paul said he's sure was just a one off anyway besides won't back pressures be different on the turbo car or am I talking rollocks? I nearly went miltek but personally, it's too loud, I prefer stealth and less drone than stock on motorways (JCW)

back pressure varies depending on HP so at an assumption youd think yes but then similar to a 280bhp SC MCS will be nearly as high. Its all relate and at the end of the day back pressure is going to be much higher before the cat.

Or was this decat and the exhaust was too free flowing?

BigShow · Apr 10th, 2008, 12:17 PM

Mine will shortly be custom mapped by RMW with the Milltek in place and then dyno'd. 1320 will then put the stock MCS system on and chuck it straight back on the dyno to see what gains/losses the stock system gives over the Milltek. Reason... the car we think might be too loud for Bedford now the head's been done.

So that should put the Milltek gains/losses argument to bed.

Ant FR · Apr 10th, 2008, 12:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original)

Mine will shortly be custom mapped by RMW with the Milltek in place and then dyno'd. 1320 will then put the stock MCS system on and chuck it straight back on the dyno to see what gains/losses the stock system gives over the Milltek. Reason... the car we think might be too loud for Bedford now the head's been done.

So that should put the Milltek gains/losses argument to bed.

What the feck,

You some sort of pansy or something, Founder of Mini Tunnel Run decides to dump exhaust as too Loud! I suggest you get it put on a quick release connector to enable change over for runs.

Or just go buy the new OMP Grp N rally exhaust for the Cooper S. 100db's ohhh yeah!!!!!!!!!

MINI-Morgan · Apr 10th, 2008, 12:42 PM

LOL! Will be interesting to see the results. But what manifold and CAT are you running for comparison?

captint · Apr 10th, 2008, 01:03 PM

Great stats, one question Generally, why is there such a huge difference between the torque and BHP, does having an s/c not benefit torque like a turbo?

Bhozar · Apr 10th, 2008, 04:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

What the feck,

You some sort of pansy or something, Founder of Mini Tunnel Run decides to dump exhaust as too Loud! I suggest you get it put on a quick release connector to enable change over for runs.

Or just go buy the new OMP Grp N rally exhaust for the Cooper S. 100db's ohhh yeah!!!!!!!!!

I second Ant on that sentiment.. BigShow you Wuss!

Jsut get an extra centre silencer made up for it.

What is the dB limit at Bedford?

Damo · Apr 10th, 2008, 05:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

that means it was milltek then

There was me expecting it to be the Play MINI

Especially as its nearly as bad as the JCW in rolands back pressure tests.

I only got mine to change the tips (Couldn't argue with £100)...would be intresting to know if I'm losing any power with it though.

Apr 7th, 2008, 09:33 AM	#161
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Cheers Chap, Emma comes back with some wonderful new words from her students Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Apr 7th, 2008, 08:11 PM	#162 (permalink)
Cooooooperslad MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 579 Offline	Just out of interest Paul, what kind of price range are you looking at for a duplicate engine of big shows, 280bhp. Including all parts and labour etc. A minimum and maximum price? Follower of 1320autos + GTTuning

Apr 8th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#163 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Are you tired off the Focus ST now, you can ask Ben how quick silver ones are Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Apr 9th, 2008, 12:43 AM	#164 (permalink)
Revolution Mini Works Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 01:05 PM Posts: 917 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) Are you tired off the Focus ST now, you can ask Ben how quick silver ones are Even the Bobbies know RMW/1320 cars are blindingly fast Manufacturer and Custom Mini Tuning

Apr 9th, 2008, 04:13 PM	#165 (permalink)
Cooooooperslad MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 579 Offline	BMW 320Cd Sport Paul :P Just intrested mate, I've recommended your company over GTT and Lohen to about 4 lads I know from the "Corsa-C" forum who have upgraded to Cooper S's Follower of 1320autos + GTTuning

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Apr 9th, 2008, 05:16 PM	#166 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Thanks for the recommendations, did you tell them to steer clear of certain cat backs Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Apr 9th, 2008, 08:16 PM	#167 (permalink)
Aberdeen Al MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 641 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) did you tell them to steer clear of certain cat backs Which certain cat-back are you talking about??? Vroooom Vroooom

Apr 10th, 2008, 08:17 AM	#168 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aberdeen Al (original) Which certain cat-back are you talking about??? thats what i was gonna ask

Apr 10th, 2008, 09:26 AM	#169 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	I new I shouldn't of said anything, it was quite a popular one and was proberly I'm sure was just a one off but it killed the power off his Mini, as it went on another car and done exactly the same to that one. This is why dynoing your car is important, just to make sure you're getting what you should be irrespective of make of pulley intercooler cat back air filter etc etc. As Big Show stated the other day he went from 218 to 239, but he could of stayed at 218 quite happly. I suppose I do enjoy problem cars because I want to find the answer, more of a challange than just bolting stuff on and getting what it should be. Does that make sense? Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

Apr 10th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#170 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	that means it was milltek then

Apr 10th, 2008, 09:51 AM	#171 (permalink)
batou Turbo Schmurbo... Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maidenhead Local Time: 10:05 PM Posts: 809 Offline	You could have just left the can-o-worms shut Ant lol, I'm sure most would figure that out being there is only one popular cat back on here 235+ BHP "Works" Eater

Apr 10th, 2008, 10:04 AM	#172 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 2,731 Offline	B004 Lee GTT300T c/w Miltek cat back....................391bhp proven on independant RR.Also proved the best in our back pressure tests. Are we defending because we stock it?No ,we dont even normally carry it, Lohen are doing a GB on it and I'll still recommend it over others. www.gttuning.com

Apr 10th, 2008, 10:15 AM	#173 (permalink)
batou Turbo Schmurbo... Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maidenhead Local Time: 10:05 PM Posts: 809 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original) B004 Lee GTT300T c/w Miltek cat back....................391bhp proven on independant RR.Also proved the best in our back pressure tests. Are we defending because we stock it?No ,we dont even normally carry it, Lohen are doing a GB on it and I'll still recommend it over others. Like Paul said he's sure was just a one off anyway besides won't back pressures be different on the turbo car or am I talking rollocks? I nearly went miltek but personally, it's too loud, I prefer stealth and less drone than stock on motorways (JCW) 235+ BHP "Works" Eater

Apr 10th, 2008, 10:29 AM	#174 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original) Like Paul said he's sure was just a one off anyway besides won't back pressures be different on the turbo car or am I talking rollocks? I nearly went miltek but personally, it's too loud, I prefer stealth and less drone than stock on motorways (JCW) back pressure varies depending on HP so at an assumption youd think yes but then similar to a 280bhp SC MCS will be nearly as high. Its all relate and at the end of the day back pressure is going to be much higher before the cat. Or was this decat and the exhaust was too free flowing? One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Apr 10th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#175 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 928 Offline	Mine will shortly be custom mapped by RMW with the Milltek in place and then dyno'd. 1320 will then put the stock MCS system on and chuck it straight back on the dyno to see what gains/losses the stock system gives over the Milltek. Reason... the car we think might be too loud for Bedford now the head's been done. So that should put the Milltek gains/losses argument to bed. http://www.MiniTorque.com

Apr 10th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#176 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow (original) Mine will shortly be custom mapped by RMW with the Milltek in place and then dyno'd. 1320 will then put the stock MCS system on and chuck it straight back on the dyno to see what gains/losses the stock system gives over the Milltek. Reason... the car we think might be too loud for Bedford now the head's been done. So that should put the Milltek gains/losses argument to bed. What the feck, You some sort of pansy or something, Founder of Mini Tunnel Run decides to dump exhaust as too Loud! I suggest you get it put on a quick release connector to enable change over for runs. Or just go buy the new OMP Grp N rally exhaust for the Cooper S. 100db's ohhh yeah!!!!!!!!!

Apr 10th, 2008, 12:42 PM	#177 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	LOL! Will be interesting to see the results. But what manifold and CAT are you running for comparison? One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Apr 10th, 2008, 01:03 PM	#178 (permalink)
captint MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Local Time: 10:05 PM Posts: 165 Offline	Great stats, one question Generally, why is there such a huge difference between the torque and BHP, does having an s/c not benefit torque like a turbo?

Apr 10th, 2008, 04:34 PM	#179 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 1,280 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original) What the feck, You some sort of pansy or something, Founder of Mini Tunnel Run decides to dump exhaust as too Loud! I suggest you get it put on a quick release connector to enable change over for runs. Or just go buy the new OMP Grp N rally exhaust for the Cooper S. 100db's ohhh yeah!!!!!!!!! I second Ant on that sentiment.. BigShow you Wuss! Jsut get an extra centre silencer made up for it. What is the dB limit at Bedford?

Apr 10th, 2008, 05:33 PM	#180 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 09:05 PM Posts: 10,526 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original) that means it was milltek then There was me expecting it to be the Play MINI Especially as its nearly as bad as the JCW in rolands back pressure tests. I only got mine to change the tips (Couldn't argue with £100)...would be intresting to know if I'm losing any power with it though.

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