[GTT 280]

I understand that the Evo engine needs to be heavily serviced every 4,500 miles due to the power gained and used with that 2.0 litre engine.

I just wonder - what does this involve, and do the high power tuned MINIs require this style of attention.

Other than the obvious oil, coolant, and basic checks, what actual mechanical inspections and replacements occur?

Cheers,
K.

[roland2003]

hi Karl, cant speak for others conversions but GTT300T or GTT400T conversions require no more regular servicing. Just use fully syn oil and let us service typically once a year. All MOTs without hitch too.
Oh the drive belt will actually last I guess 2 or 3 times longer than on a SC or TC setup as a bonus.
Best Regrds Roland GTT

[batou]

I've decided to change my oil every 7500 miles where possible since tuning it beyond 100bhp/litre.

I check oil, coolant, tyre pressures every week but rely on the cars sensors (i.e brakes) for other things. Furthermore I took out a warranty to cover (amongst other things) the engine (ie. oil pump failure, head gasket failure etc) under the agreement that if a modified (uninsured) part fails (or causes a failure) then only insured parts and total labor will be fixed leaving me to pay for the modified part only

Basically, it can't hurt to over service it despite what tuners say about reliability. I'll probably do a leakdown and compression test every 7500 miles (same time as oil change) to keep an eye on that, plus I'll try to check my plugs more often too.

Good point/thread, I wonder how many others just leave it upto normal servicing? When modding you kinda have to expect that things will go wrong at some point that way your never left disappointed and if they don't, pleasantly surprised . If you expect the same reliability record as a standard car, your deluding yourself.

P.S: you might want to rename the thread to stop it getting moved to other autos etc.

[GTT 280]

Since having the GTT260 and GTT270+ kit installed, i have only ever replaced the oil (or rather Roland has). So no great service occured.

On fitment of the new JE Forged Pistons and Stage 4 Cylinder head i have also opted for a new Oil Pump and NGK Iridium Spark Plugs (small price for piece of mind) and numerous other small replacements eg gasket, big ends etc.

Once i go for the 400+BHP package later in the year, then i may consider a 6 month service, not because it requires it, but simply for insurance and kindness to the car (relatively, after spending £10,000's on the mods it makes perfect sense to spend a few £100 just to check it out - a bit like a spa weekend for us human beans !!)



Cheers,
K.

[Bhozar]

I have always gone with changing the oil every 7k miles in my MCS. I keep an eye on other servicable items and replace when needed.

A big problem with the Evo is the diffs. Only Mitsubishi can service them, and high cost, and they need a lot of looking after from what I have heard.

I dont think it helps that the engine is high tech. Sometimes youre just better of with a cast iron SOHC engine with no fancy gubbins.

[Paul Webster]

You both have the correct attitude towards your rides

[batou]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)

Since having the GTT260 and GTT270+ kit installed, i have only ever replaced the oil (or rather Roland has). So no great service occured.

On fitment of the new JE Forged Pistons and Stage 4 Cylinder head i have also opted for a new Oil Pump and NGK Iridium Spark Plugs (small price for piece of mind) and numerous other small replacements eg gasket, big ends etc.

Once i go for the 400+BHP package later in the year, then i may consider a 6 month service, not because it requires it, but simply for insurance and kidness to the car (relatively, after spending £10,000's on the mods it makes perfect sense to spend a few £100 just to check it out - a bit like a spa weekend for human beans !!



Cheers,
K.

Exactly although Roland says no extra is required he's pointed out the risks of the oil pump at 50k. Yes it might not need it, but it make sense to do these things when labor is being done anyway. I imagine the amount of regular work you have done Karl your doing more than what you need to anyway

Either way if for our own piece of mind the next owners of our cars (be on the forum or not) can be safe in the knowledge the cars being looked after with not a penny spared

[Ant FR]

Just one thing, remember the servicing on EVO's is mainly down to the way Mitsubishi UK is set up. As they are still sort of imports ie mitsubishi Uk is not part of Mitsubishi, and the warranty situation is a little strange behind the scenes. Thats why on the higher performnce versions they require these shorter intervals. I read a long but rather interesting article on it a year or so ago. I also know on the EVO x there is a lot longer servicing and thats on the same engine effectively. i will try to dig out the article.

Even ferraris are only every 6000 (depending on model)

[chuntington101]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

Just one thing, remember the servicing on EVO's is mainly down to the way Mitsubishi UK is set up. As they are still sort of imports ie mitsubishi Uk is not part of Mitsubishi, and the warranty situation is a little strange behind the scenes. Thats why on the higher performnce versions they require these shorter intervals. I read a long but rather interesting article on it a year or so ago. I also know on the EVO x there is a lot longer servicing and thats on the same engine effectively. i will try to dig out the article.

Even ferraris are only every 6000 (depending on model)

just to clear up the engine in the X is totally differant to the one inthe IX and older modles! the old engine (4G63T) engine is pretty old, basically similar age to a cossy engine. the new motor is brand spanking new all ally (not iron) that is bang upto date. should be a very impresive engine as test have already shown. some even though the Evo IXs are pretty new the engine isn't.

Cheers

Chris.

[MINI-Morgan]

Probably just covering themselves against failure do to oil thining and moisture from lack of use and short journeys.

I still change my MINIs oil half service interval.

[captint]

New 599 GTB is every 12,000!!!!!!!!!!

[NeuroBeaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by captint (original)

New 599 GTB is every 12,000!!!!!!!!!!

Great - let's all rush out and buy one of those then... does anyone have £197,405 I could borrow?

[batou]

Sure whats your paypal?

[MarkW]

I know subaru reccomend a full fluid change and service after a track day, always makes me smile that my track car only needs a mot each year and no post track servicing

[GRSmotorsport]

Personally I have my oil & filter changed every 3-4000 miles.I believe that once you tune a car more heat can build up which will break down the oil quicker - piece of mind really for what it costs.

In all the cars I've had I always do an oil change the night before a track day, then do another change the day after......

[Darthbladerni]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

Even ferraris are only every 6000 (depending on model)

Even though im only in a ONE i do alot of what you all would do with regards to oil change only not as much.

I want this car to last until i one day can buy an S so the oil gets changed every 10k or so. I did the full 37k service myself and replaced everything with normal parts. normal panel filter, normal spark plugs etc etc.
But for the next service which I think is 47k im redoing the full service again and replacing everything with higher quality. Denso Iridium spark plugs, fully synthetic oil etc just to keep her going ok.
Weekly checks include tyre pressure, oil level, coolant level, and then occasionally i will clean my k&n panel filter.

Im trying to get in the habit of doing all this now so i can carry it on for every car i ever own, good practice really.

And with exotic cars, their services dont rely on mileage it goes on set times.
Even if you buy a Ferrari/Lamborghini and dont drive it you have to get i serviced at specific times of the year that the manufacturer set.

[roland2003]

we recommemd NGK Iridium plugs (not platinum, no where near as good), and decent fully syn oil (much better than part syn). Weekly checks must be strictly adhered to on any Mini. Ive lost track of the number of cars with next to no oil/coolant/air in tyres (or all 3) weve had in. Im guessing about 200 though!!!

[NeuroBeaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

Sure whats your paypal?

!!! You're my new favourite buddy...

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original)

Even though im only in a ONE i do alot of what you all would do with regards to oil change only not as much.

I want this car to last until i one day can buy an S so the oil gets changed every 10k or so. I did the full 37k service myself and replaced everything with normal parts. normal panel filter, normal spark plugs etc etc.
But for the next service which I think is 47k im redoing the full service again and replacing everything with higher quality. Denso Iridium spark plugs, fully synthetic oil etc just to keep her going ok.
Weekly checks include tyre pressure, oil level, coolant level, and then occasionally i will clean my k&n panel filter.

Im trying to get in the habit of doing all this now so i can carry it on for every car i ever own, good practice really.

I'm somewhat the same with my ONE... I always did the TLC servicing promptly with BMW and do weekly checks of tyres, oil (fully synthetic), coolant, brake fluid, etc... although, Roland did need to point out to me that my tyre tread was just the wrong side of illegal for tread when I popped down to GTT for some gearbox attention - whoops! Had to get new tyres rather quickly after that.

The problem with servicing for me is that if anything more serious needs doing to it than just checking and topping up things, I'm a bit of a wet fish with tools and DIY - so now that TLC has expired I need to find competent local mechanics who can do all the major stuff for me.

[Darthbladerni]

Quote: Originally Posted by ARCrawford (original)

!!! You're my new favourite buddy...

I'm somewhat the same with my ONE... I always did the TLC servicing promptly with BMW and do weekly checks of tyres, oil (fully synthetic), coolant, brake fluid, etc... although, Roland did need to point out to me that my tyre tread was just the wrong side of illegal for tread when I popped down to GTT for some gearbox attention - whoops! Had to get new tyres rather quickly after that.

The problem with servicing for me is that if anything more serious needs doing to it than just checking and topping up things, I'm a bit of a wet fish with tools and DIY - so now that TLC has expired I need to find competent local mechanics who can do all the major stuff for me.

Just get yourself a Haynes manual and work away. Thats what I work off and everything has been fairly simple. Some steps in it are not required so there are times when there is a bit of head scratching until you realise that you do not have to do something even though it says to do it.

[NeuroBeaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original)

Just get yourself a Haynes manual and work away. Thats what I work off and everything has been fairly simple. Some steps in it are not required so there are times when there is a bit of head scratching until you realise that you do not have to do something even though it says to do it.

I've got one - still not brave enough to do anything 'involved'. I use it more as a reference tool so that I can communicate more quickly with mechanics the items I want them to check for me... though I often still wind up coming across as a complete nincompoop.