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Old Apr 18th, 2008, 07:24 PM   #1
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Best tuning company for mcs upgrades

Hi

Can anybody help? ??????

im looking to upgrade on my 2004 mini cooper s bhp to about 220 and was wondering which is a good reliable company to use.
I dont mine if i have to travel as long as they are a good.
Also could i get some feed back off you guys, who have already had upgrades done to there MCS and if they have had any problems.

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Old Apr 18th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do a search on here for 1320, GTT and Lohen. I have dealth with all three and I have been quite happy with them.
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Old Apr 18th, 2008, 11:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 05:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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if your happy at 210-220 you should be fine with whoever you choose, [site sponsors] and this 1st step onto the ladder is the best value but if you want more power at some later stage you may need to think a little harder about your final goals in bhp
their is lots more available if you have deep enough pockets,

also the delivery of these bigger numbers & if you fancy a turbo or bigger capacity engine, to achive it
i feel its easier if you stick with one tuner rather than chop and change half way thru
also beyond 220 you need to be spending on brakes + perhaps better rubber before chasing, much bigger numbers

so more stuff to budget for

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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 07:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd suggest getting your car on a rolling road first to see what power you have... You may have a lot more than expected... You may then find that just a pulley change will take you over the 210 mark... A number of us on here have done just that... As to tuners I'd say 1320... they have the RR too... Lohen are also good...
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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 08:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Definitely GT Tuning. A clever tuner who is extremely talented at making most of the, high quality, components that he uses in house. I can't think of another tuner that does this as they mostly simply buy in off-the-shelf stuff from third party companies; that's why he gets my vote

Roland (the MD) has been extremely helpful to a lot of people on this site and others for several years. Amazingly, he is currently banned. While the moderators may have their reasons for doing this, I wouldn't let it affect your choice of tuner as has nothing what so ever to do with the quality of his work, or the completely professional way that he has dealt with me, or any one of his other customers that I have ever spoken to.

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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 09:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)
Definitely GT Tuning. A clever tuner who is extremely talented at making most of the, high quality, components that he uses in house. I can't think of another tuner that does this as they mostly simply buy in off-the-shelf stuff from third party companies; that's why he gets my vote

Roland (the MD) has been extremely helpful to a lot of people on this site and others for several years. Amazingly, he is currently banned, but I would completely ignore this as it is nothing what so ever to do with the quality of his work, or the completely professional way that he has dealt with me, or any one of his other customers that I have ever spoken to.

Tigger.

I concur.

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You also need to decide how you want to achieve that hp; either reving high or more torque. I always go with the second option as it will feel much stronger the whole rev range.

Get a 17% pulley and bigger intercooler on there
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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I live by this rule now...

‘It’s not how much you spend - but how well you spend it!’
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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 11:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by jaymanv4 (original)
Hi

Can anybody help? ??????

im looking to upgrade on my 2004 mini cooper s bhp to about 220 and was wondering which is a good reliable company to use.
I dont mine if i have to travel as long as they are a good.
Also could i get some feed back off you guys, who have already had upgrades done to there MCS and if they have had any problems.

Many Thanks Jayman

Hi Jayman

There a plenty of good tuners on the forum who will get you to your 220bhp target.

We can offer various packages to get you running 220bhp+ Feel free to call us on 01902 324584or e-mail on info@p-torque.co.uk and we can discuss options and pricing

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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 12:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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A word of advice if a tuner tries to hard sell you an aftermarket remap (ie. superchips, bluefin) to get to 220bhp, walkaway. Remaps are for power delivery and smoothness not to achieve your high powered goals. You only really need one if you get a bigger head.

A 15% pulley and colder plugs was fitted to a guys cooper s by 1320autos (think it was ewmarine or tristo) and his put 216bhp down on the rollers, i did the same (pulley and plugs) before I came across 1320 and it cost under £300!!! Awesome first upgrade.

After that it's best to let it breathe better and give it more fuel so an uprated intercooler (GRS approx. £400 or if your on a buget get a one off Cooper S GP if you can (I paid £200 for mine)) to help it cool down and breathe better. Then for more fuel bigger injectors (Works ones are 380cc and are what I use, standard are 330cc).

Your probably looking at £1500 tops for the lot fitted (you can do the intercooler yourself easily) and around 225-230ish bhp and some extra pennies saved to get a nice sounding exhaust/intake system

Paul at 1320 autos is one of the only tuners that will post up the basics you need to make power and all the add on rubbish you don't need to buy. Because this gives us mini owners more of an insight into this other tuners aren't happy because it leads to them getting more questions and less money out of us. How many garages do you know whos tag line is "It's not how much you spend, it's how well your spend it".

The tuners are banned for a few weeks for arguing, 1320 get a lot of stick from other tuners because the give out more info about what we need to spend than some tuners would like.

If you want to spend a lot of money, get good service and decent power go GTT / Lohen, if you want to spend less money, get good service, make the same power (or maybe more) and learn a hell of lot about your car go 1320autos.

Good luck.

PS. It's also more about location but most sponsors on here will be happy to answer your questions even if your not getting things fitted by them.


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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 12:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)
Definitely GT Tuning. A clever tuner who is extremely talented at making most of the, high quality, components that he uses in house. I can't think of another tuner that does this as they mostly simply buy in off-the-shelf stuff from third party companies; that's why he gets my vote

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Roland (the MD) has been extremely helpful to a lot of people on this site and others for several years. Amazingly, he is currently banned, but I would completely ignore this as it is nothing what so ever to do with the quality of his work, or the completely professional way that he has dealt with me, or any one of his other customers that I have ever spoken to.

Tigger.

Totally agree, GTT rock. Can't go wrong with them
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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 02:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)
A word of advice if a tuner tries to hard sell you an aftermarket remap (ie. superchips, bluefin) to get to 220bhp, walkaway. Remaps are for power delivery and smoothness not to achieve your high powered goals. You only really need one if you get a bigger head.

A 15% pulley and colder plugs was fitted to a guys cooper s by 1320autos (think it was ewmarine or tristo) and his put 216bhp down on the rollers, i did the same (pulley and plugs) before I came across 1320 and it cost under £300!!! Awesome first upgrade.

After that it's best to let it breathe better and give it more fuel so an uprated intercooler (GRS approx. £400 or if your on a buget get a one off Cooper S GP if you can (I paid £200 for mine)) to help it cool down and breathe better. Then for more fuel bigger injectors (Works ones are 380cc and are what I use, standard are 330cc).

Your probably looking at £1500 tops for the lot fitted (you can do the intercooler yourself easily) and around 225-230ish bhp and some extra pennies saved to get a nice sounding exhaust/intake system

Paul at 1320 autos is one of the only tuners that will post up the basics you need to make power and all the add on rubbish you don't need to buy. Because this gives us mini owners more of an insight into this other tuners aren't happy because it leads to them getting more questions and less money out of us. How many garages do you know whos tag line is "It's not how much you spend, it's how well your spend it".

The tuners are banned for a few weeks for arguing, 1320 get a lot of stick from other tuners because the give out more info about what we need to spend than some tuners would like.

If you want to spend a lot of money, get good service and decent power go GTT / Lohen, if you want to spend less money, get good service, make the same power (or maybe more) and learn a hell of lot about your car go 1320autos.

Good luck.

PS. It's also more about location but most sponsors on here will be happy to answer your questions even if your not getting things fitted by them.

What he said ^
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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old Apr 19th, 2008, 05:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Been down the pod today with BigShow to test out his new RMW head fitted and tuned by 1320, he ran a 13.8 @ 105

I ran my JCW GTT Hybrid and ran 14.5 @ 98, we've both spent the same amount of money, go figure. All in all a good laugh.
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Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)
A word of advice if a tuner tries to hard sell you an aftermarket remap (ie. superchips, bluefin) to get to 220bhp, walkaway. Remaps are for power delivery and smoothness not to achieve your high powered goals. You only really need one if you get a bigger head.

A 15% pulley and colder plugs was fitted to a guys cooper s by 1320autos (think it was ewmarine or tristo) and his put 216bhp down on the rollers, i did the same (pulley and plugs) before I came across 1320 and it cost under £300!!! Awesome first upgrade.

After that it's best to let it breathe better and give it more fuel so an uprated intercooler (GRS approx. £400 or if your on a buget get a one off Cooper S GP if you can (I paid £200 for mine)) to help it cool down and breathe better. Then for more fuel bigger injectors (Works ones are 380cc and are what I use, standard are 330cc).

Your probably looking at £1500 tops for the lot fitted (you can do the intercooler yourself easily) and around 225-230ish bhp and some extra pennies saved to get a nice sounding exhaust/intake system

Paul at 1320 autos is one of the only tuners that will post up the basics you need to make power and all the add on rubbish you don't need to buy. Because this gives us mini owners more of an insight into this other tuners aren't happy because it leads to them getting more questions and less money out of us. How many garages do you know whos tag line is "It's not how much you spend, it's how well your spend it".

The tuners are banned for a few weeks for arguing, 1320 get a lot of stick from other tuners because the give out more info about what we need to spend than some tuners would like.

If you want to spend a lot of money, get good service and decent power go GTT / Lohen, if you want to spend less money, get good service, make the same power (or maybe more) and learn a hell of lot about your car go 1320autos.

Good luck.

PS. It's also more about location but most sponsors on here will be happy to answer your questions even if your not getting things fitted by them.

100% 1320 autos, Paul and chris certainly know there stuff and will find the best way to improve the perfomance to your MCS, like batou and Damo said "Its not how much you spend, its how you spend it".
I Bought and fitted myself a GRS Intercooler, which are £395 new. Then i took it to 1320 autos where i had a 15% alta V2 Pulley and NGK Spark plugs with fitting came to around £320, when RR'd it took my car to 214 which was very pleasing only spending £700

Also had a leek down down test which test the compression in your cylinders, i would say this is a must before having any mods, if you are losing pressure you are losing BHP! It only costs around £30.

And if you want to spend out some extra cash i would recommend thejanspeed manifold which is i think £490 fitted which will defanlty bump it up to 220-225 mark.
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