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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 09:52 AM   #21
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)
0-60 5.8 seconds. seems slow that, no ?

It does a bit...

* Longer ratio box (meaning longer spinning up in 1st).
* 280bhp --> FWD --> No LSD?
* Slightly higher curbweight?? ............... Sorry Ben, couldn't resist lol .

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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:03 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by 300GP (original)
Ben i had a minispeed 260bhp mini before my GP, we fitted a Quaife diff i really couldn't see or feel were my £750 had gone, unless you are going to track day your car a lot of the time, well i was a bit disappointed! i would spend it on Jan's water to air and his 440 injectors mate.. just my penny's worth..

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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:04 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:17 AM   #24 (permalink)
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7,200 113mph - what gear is this? 3 or 4?


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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:21 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)
Intercooler

As in a water based intercooler?
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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:35 AM   #26 (permalink)
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As in a water based intercooler?

Yes its a water cooled intercooler that's another approx 15bhp that will be about 297bhp with a m45... i never thought i would see a near 300bhp with a m45 superchargerd mini..
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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:56 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Hi Guys

Yes the 0-60 time is a bit slow but it's very difficult to hook up and 5.8 secs is the best acheived so far, even with granny starts. On the strip/track a diff would help for sure, on the road, not so sure as 1st is the only gear it loses traction in on the road thanks to the suspension and map.

If you look at the dyno graph you'll see that most torque comes in after traction is found (just the way we wanted it - mid range punch) which explains the 30-70 time but that is in 2nd gear and not 3rd. I'll never be able to match Snowie or Pauls 30-70 times in 3rd with their later box.

I spoke with Graham about the water to air but on track, which is where the temps get high, he doesn't believe the WTA will benefit me that much over the stock GRS which shows just how good it is.

Thanks for the advice 300GP, I have the 440's now but not the diff.. The next mods happening shortly are:

RMW Manifold and Exhaust - in back to back tests on the same car it gave 10 lbs ft more after being fitted
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This lot should sort out my off the line issues and improve my 60ft at the strip which with a new gearbox and in the right conditions might get me into the 12's.
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7,200 113mph - what gear is this? 3 or 4?

4th, I wish 3rd would go that high!
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Quote: Originally Posted by 300GP (original)
Yes its a water cooled intercooler that's another approx 15bhp that will be about 297bhp with a m45... i never thought i would see a near 300bhp with a m45 superchargerd mini..

Someone will shortly be adding a water to air to a car with an identical spec to mine so we'll soon see... I know my car won't be the most powerful for long that's for sure... soon they'll be a 270 whp running an M45
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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 11:33 AM   #30 (permalink)
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surely you're gonna stop though mate, i myself have been quite adamant that thats it now. Bar small things and repairing things when they break, i'm not spending anymore. (although i still scoure Ebay for the odd bargain...lol) but now i want few months of just petrol going in.

i think Karl is the one to look at here ( no offense Karl) but he's in a never ending spiral of throwing money at the car especially come summer. is 400bhp really going to cure him, . I suppose best person to ask is Lee, is he finished now etc.

I sometimes look at the others on this forum who have a tastefully modded one Diesel with maybe some nice wheels and shiny bits and thats it, there oever the moon with their cars. I honestly am jealous of those people who can drive a standardish car and be happy with it. I think we may be the mugs in this whole set up as unfortuantely i fear we will never be truely finished.

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Thinking of the hard to hook up comments, what camber are you running on the fronts?

For drag racing you would want none, but in track work 2.5 is the norm.

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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 11:47 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Those are nice numbers and a great writeup. This is why all the bashing is not needed. Good show Big Show (ok, that was stupid )

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)
surely you're gonna stop though mate, i myself have been quite adamant that thats it now. Bar small things and repairing things when they break, i'm not spending anymore. (although i still scoure Ebay for the odd bargain...lol) but now i want few months of just petrol going in.

i think Karl is the one to look at here ( no offense Karl) but he's in a never ending spiral of throwing money at the car especially come summer. is 400bhp really going to cure him, . I suppose best person to ask is Lee, is he finished now etc.

I sometimes look at the others on this forum who have a tastefully modded one Diesel with maybe some nice wheels and shiny bits and thats it, there oever the moon with their cars. I honestly am jealous of those people who can drive a standardish car and be happy with it. I think we may be the mugs in this whole set up as unfortuantely i fear we will never be truely finished.

Maybe we deserve a charity fund to help us.

Very well put mate and I know exactly what you're saying.

After the mods above I am stopping with that car as IMO the power/suspension/chassis set-up is the most that can be efficiently put through the front wheels of a Mini. However, this will be confirmed at Bedford this Friday and not by me, a couple of independant car journo's will be taking it for a few laps to give their opinion but it won't be published, just asked them for what they like and don't like.

Money wise you are quite right... do I get anymore enjoyment from my car than someone else who as spent a 10th of what I have... probably not, it's all relative. But my goal was to build a Mini that was faster than my mates GT4 and its now beaten his 1/4 mile time so I'm happy... but moreso I'm happy with how my car delivers its power and drives day to day.

Next year... now that's a different matter. Next year I've got something very special planned for a donor Mini Cooper S. It won't be cheap but I don't drink, smoke or have kids so while I can, I'll spend my spare cash on something really challenging that gives me a proper scaryily fast buzz. Can a Mini be built that's quicker than a Merc SLR or a Porsche Carrera GT in all conditions... we'll have to wait and see.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original)
Thinking of the hard to hook up comments, what camber are you running on the fronts?

For drag racing you would want none, but in track work 2.5 is the norm.

Very good point, I'm running aggresive camber which will help on track but not on the strip.
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Do you think it would be possible to start in second gear instead of 1st?
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Do you think it would be possible to start in second gear instead of 1st?

You know what I hadn't even thought of that but I'll strap the performance box on today and give it a try
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)
surely you're gonna stop though mate, i myself have been quite adamant that thats it now. Bar small things and repairing things when they break, i'm not spending anymore. (although i still scoure Ebay for the odd bargain...lol) but now i want few months of just petrol going in.

i think Karl is the one to look at here ( no offense Karl) but he's in a never ending spiral of throwing money at the car especially come summer. is 400bhp really going to cure him, . I suppose best person to ask is Lee, is he finished now etc.

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Maybe we deserve a charity fund to help us.


I'm just looking for sensible improvements. A stage 4 head and other work seems sensible for me. Also the turbo will be interesting.


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Very well put mate and I know exactly what you're saying.

After the mods above I am stopping with that car as IMO the power/suspension/chassis set-up is the most that can be efficiently put through the front wheels of a Mini. However, this will be confirmed at Bedford this Friday and not by me, a couple of independant car journo's will be taking it for a few laps to give their opinion but it won't be published, just asked them for what they like and don't like.

Money wise you are quite right... do I get anymore enjoyment from my car than someone else who as spent a 10th of what I have... probably not, it's all relative. But my goal was to build a Mini that was faster than my mates GT4 and its now beaten his 1/4 mile time so I'm happy... but moreso I'm happy with how my car delivers its power and drives day to day.

Next year... now that's a different matter. Next year I've got something very special planned for a donor Mini Cooper S. It won't be cheap but I don't drink, smoke or have kids so while I can, I'll spend my spare cash on something really challenging that gives me a proper scaryily fast buzz. Can a Mini be built that's quicker than a Merc SLR or a Porsche Carrera GT in all conditions... we'll have to wait and see.

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Very well put mate and I know exactly what you're saying.

After the mods above I am stopping with that car as IMO the power/suspension/chassis set-up is the most that can be efficiently put through the front wheels of a Mini. However, this will be confirmed at Bedford this Friday and not by me, a couple of independant car journo's will be taking it for a few laps to give their opinion but it won't be published, just asked them for what they like and don't like.

Money wise you are quite right... do I get anymore enjoyment from my car than someone else who as spent a 10th of what I have... probably not, it's all relative. But my goal was to build a Mini that was faster than my mates GT4 and its now beaten his 1/4 mile time so I'm happy... but moreso I'm happy with how my car delivers its power and drives day to day.

Next year... now that's a different matter. Next year I've got something very special planned for a donor Mini Cooper S. It won't be cheap but I don't drink, smoke or have kids so while I can, I'll spend my spare cash on something really challenging that gives me a proper scaryily fast buzz. Can a Mini be built that's quicker than a Merc SLR or a Porsche Carrera GT in all conditions... we'll have to wait and see.

Youve kept this a secret, i cant wait to see your idea. Good luck with it
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