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Bhozar · Apr 28th, 2008, 10:11 AM

As some may now I was lucky enough to win the auction for the 1320 Camshaft that was given as a prize at the Top Gear test track. http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...-camshaft.html

I had it fitted yesterday while at the DBrally.net rolling road day near Birmingham. This is an independant rolling road, they just happen to work on classic mini's. The fuel used was a 50/50-ish tank of v-power and tesco 99.

The day started with me being first on the rollers to get a baseline power/torque figure. Then the car was left to cool while the two mechanics from ThinkMINI put their cars on the rollers. Once that was out the way they started to strip down my engine in the car park to install the new cam.

It didn't take them long, despite the rain, and after a bit of work the car was ready to fire up for the first time with the new cam. No problems there. Fired up first time and the car now had a bit more of a deeper growl at tick over.

After leaving the car for a bit to warm up it was back on the rollers.

Please note, that the only modification that was done is the camshaft. Nothing else was done to the car.

Baseline:
WHP 163.8
BHP 197.2
Torque 169

+1320 camshaft
WHP 179.2
BHP 217.0
Torque 187

As you can see the improvements were quite large.

On the road it is noticeable. The car pulls well from lower down and feels quicker across the rev range compared with before.

The sound is also much better. Its hard to describe how much better it sounds now. Before it could sound a little tinny, and now it sounds like a much deeper growl and roar. I went under a motorway overpass shortly after at 6000rpm and couldn't stop grinning for ages.

I cant work out how to do clickable thumbnails, so here are the links to the dyno results.

sef · Apr 28th, 2008, 10:28 AM

Excellent results...

Saad · Apr 28th, 2008, 10:30 AM

I think you need one of those Sef

Snowie · Apr 28th, 2008, 10:34 AM

Excellent results - enjoy the new found power and torque.

lucachiarelli · Apr 28th, 2008, 11:01 AM

Top results mate. Congrats to you and well done 1320

BigShow · Apr 28th, 2008, 11:51 AM

Glad to see a 1320autos product independantly tested to prove it does do exactly what it says on the tin. Good on you Bhozar for taking the time (and spending the money) to test it out and share your results with us.

BigShow step's on to his soap box 'its not how much you spend, it's how well you spend it'.

MINI-Morgan · Apr 28th, 2008, 11:52 AM

great work! exactly why I say a head doesnt add as much as people think when the cam can add nearly 20hp alone. Everyone seems to do head and cams at the same time.

minicabrio · Apr 28th, 2008, 12:04 PM

Good results

Excellent work with the before and after runs too

Bhozar · Apr 28th, 2008, 12:33 PM

Cheers guys. I'm very happy with the results from the rolling road and the butt dyno.

If anyone wants to supply a vew cylinder heads I'll happy test them all before and after on my car

BigShow · Apr 28th, 2008, 12:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

great work! exactly why I say a head doesnt add as much as people think when the cam can add nearly 20hp alone. Everyone seems to do head and cams at the same time.

Well I know someone on here is undecided whether to fit a cam and bigger injectors to go with their new head so if they just fit the head it may prove your theory right

sef · Apr 28th, 2008, 01:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Saad (original)

I think you need one of those Sef

Well I'm having my Manifold fitted by paul tomorrow... If the RR is good... that will prob be my next mod...

Saad · Apr 28th, 2008, 02:36 PM

Huzzah!

MINI-Morgan · Apr 28th, 2008, 05:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow300 (original)

Well I know someone on here is undecided whether to fit a cam and bigger injectors to go with their new head so if they just fit the head it may prove your theory right

Keep your eyes open at Surrey end of May and the answer will be there

TRISTO · Apr 28th, 2008, 05:51 PM

Great results, didnt think a cam would put out that much power.

Have you got a manifold on the car

wibbly · Apr 28th, 2008, 06:03 PM

Thats a nice increase

I thought your car was a JCW car with some GTT bits tho

alski · Apr 28th, 2008, 06:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Cheers guys. I'm very happy with the results from the rolling road and the butt dyno.

i think what you have there mate is a karma cam

,

do good things and good things happen to you, i expect the GRS car will be flying as well

Bhozar · Apr 28th, 2008, 06:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TRISTO (original)

Have you got a manifold on the car

Yes, GTT +Decat.

Quote: Originally Posted by wibbly (original)

Thats a nice increase

I thought your car was a JCW car with some GTT bits tho

Aye, it is. You can see the spec here: http://www.mini2.com/forum/miniprofile38917.html

Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original)

i think what you have there mate is a karma cam

,

do good things and good things happen to you, i expect the GRS car will be flying as well

Thanks for that Alski. I am a strong believer in karma.

GRSmotorsport · Apr 28th, 2008, 10:42 PM

Great result Alex,

Damo · Apr 29th, 2008, 10:04 AM

Well done mate!

Paul Webster · Apr 30th, 2008, 09:14 PM

NIce one Bhozar, you now hold the title as the highest gain for one of our cams,

I'm afraid that 99.9% of others who buy and fit the cam will not see gains like this, Sorry.

Apr 28th, 2008, 10:11 AM	#1
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 1,262 Online	1320 camshaft review and dyno results As some may now I was lucky enough to win the auction for the 1320 Camshaft that was given as a prize at the Top Gear test track. http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...-camshaft.html I had it fitted yesterday while at the DBrally.net rolling road day near Birmingham. This is an independant rolling road, they just happen to work on classic mini's. The fuel used was a 50/50-ish tank of v-power and tesco 99. The day started with me being first on the rollers to get a baseline power/torque figure. Then the car was left to cool while the two mechanics from ThinkMINI put their cars on the rollers. Once that was out the way they started to strip down my engine in the car park to install the new cam. It didn't take them long, despite the rain, and after a bit of work the car was ready to fire up for the first time with the new cam. No problems there. Fired up first time and the car now had a bit more of a deeper growl at tick over. After leaving the car for a bit to warm up it was back on the rollers. Please note, that the only modification that was done is the camshaft. Nothing else was done to the car. Baseline: WHP 163.8 BHP 197.2 Torque 169 +1320 camshaft WHP 179.2 BHP 217.0 Torque 187 As you can see the improvements were quite large. On the road it is noticeable. The car pulls well from lower down and feels quicker across the rev range compared with before. The sound is also much better. Its hard to describe how much better it sounds now. Before it could sound a little tinny, and now it sounds like a much deeper growl and roar. I went under a motorway overpass shortly after at 6000rpm and couldn't stop grinning for ages. I cant work out how to do clickable thumbnails, so here are the links to the dyno results. Last edited by MINIAC : Apr 28th, 2008 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Make links clickable thumbnails

Apr 28th, 2008, 10:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 690 Offline	Excellent results... www.miniclubuk.com

Apr 28th, 2008, 10:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
Saad I love ALL minis Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hornchurch/Liverpool Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 356 Offline	I think you need one of those Sef My Flickr Account

Apr 28th, 2008, 10:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Snowie MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Modena IT /Camberley Local Time: 01:42 PM Posts: 1,672 Offline	Excellent results - enjoy the new found power and torque. In Italy

Apr 28th, 2008, 11:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 922 Offline	Glad to see a 1320autos product independantly tested to prove it does do exactly what it says on the tin. Good on you Bhozar for taking the time (and spending the money) to test it out and share your results with us. BigShow step's on to his soap box 'its not how much you spend, it's how well you spend it'. MiniTorque.com
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Apr 28th, 2008, 11:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 514 Offline	Top results mate. Congrats to you and well done 1320

Apr 28th, 2008, 11:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 4,768 Offline	great work! exactly why I say a head doesnt add as much as people think when the cam can add nearly 20hp alone. Everyone seems to do head and cams at the same time. One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Apr 28th, 2008, 12:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
minicabrio sick note Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 15,685 Offline	Good results Excellent work with the before and after runs too

Apr 28th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 1,262 Online	Cheers guys. I'm very happy with the results from the rolling road and the butt dyno. If anyone wants to supply a vew cylinder heads I'll happy test them all before and after on my car

Apr 28th, 2008, 12:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 922 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original) great work! exactly why I say a head doesnt add as much as people think when the cam can add nearly 20hp alone. Everyone seems to do head and cams at the same time. Well I know someone on here is undecided whether to fit a cam and bigger injectors to go with their new head so if they just fit the head it may prove your theory right MiniTorque.com

Apr 28th, 2008, 01:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 690 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Saad (original) I think you need one of those Sef Well I'm having my Manifold fitted by paul tomorrow... If the RR is good... that will prob be my next mod... www.miniclubuk.com

Apr 28th, 2008, 02:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Saad I love ALL minis Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hornchurch/Liverpool Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 356 Offline	Huzzah! My Flickr Account

Apr 28th, 2008, 05:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 4,768 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow300 (original) Well I know someone on here is undecided whether to fit a cam and bigger injectors to go with their new head so if they just fit the head it may prove your theory right Keep your eyes open at Surrey end of May and the answer will be there One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Apr 28th, 2008, 05:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
TRISTO MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 23 Offline	camshaft Great results, didnt think a cam would put out that much power. Have you got a manifold on the car

Apr 28th, 2008, 06:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
wibbly In my Classic Mk 1 :) Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 6,570 Offline	Thats a nice increase I thought your car was a JCW car with some GTT bits tho \| MINIaddiction \| \| For MIDLANDS Folk in their MINI's \|

Apr 28th, 2008, 06:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
alski dyno-mite, might not.... My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: banbury Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 969 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original) Cheers guys. I'm very happy with the results from the rolling road and the butt dyno. i think what you have there mate is a karma cam , do good things and good things happen to you, i expect the GRS car will be flying as well carefree

Apr 28th, 2008, 06:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 1,262 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by TRISTO (original) Have you got a manifold on the car Yes, GTT +Decat. Quote: Originally Posted by wibbly (original) Thats a nice increase I thought your car was a JCW car with some GTT bits tho Aye, it is. You can see the spec here: http://www.mini2.com/forum/miniprofile38917.html Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original) i think what you have there mate is a karma cam , do good things and good things happen to you, i expect the GRS car will be flying as well Thanks for that Alski. I am a strong believer in karma.

Apr 28th, 2008, 10:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
GRSmotorsport MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yeovil Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 684 Online	Great result Alex, Graham

Apr 29th, 2008, 10:04 AM	#19 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 10,679 Offline	Well done mate!

Apr 30th, 2008, 09:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 02:42 PM Posts: 1,938 Offline	NIce one Bhozar, you now hold the title as the highest gain for one of our cams, I'm afraid that 99.9% of others who buy and fit the cam will not see gains like this, Sorry. Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

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