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black20vt · May 22nd, 2008, 09:54 AM

Most powerful M45 11% JCW in the World!! * terms and conditions apply

The record has been brought home to Blighty!

Yesterday @ 1320 history was made when my car broke the Antarctican held power record for an M45 11% JCW by crossing the dyno at 114 mph. with a frankly astonishing 245.8 BHP @ 7221RPM and 193.5 lbft @ 4998. This is all with the original JCW head, exhaust and 11% pulley as required by Guinness.

This feat was made possible by the addition of the 1320 CAM and liberal application of Christune ™ understanding.

The car:

2004 JCW Mini Cooper S – 190 conversion – 50K Miles

JCW Head
JCW 380c Injectors
1320 Camshaft
GTT Intercooler
Christune ™ 1320 Custom Remap
GTT CAI
JCW 11% Pulley
Janspeed Manifold
JCW Exhaust (No kink)
OEM Spark Plugs
Eibach lowered springs
Front bush thingies
Stock Clutch (On the car since new)
No Diff
OZ Superleggera 16” Alloys
Toyo T1S Tyres (205/50/16)
Shell Optimax Fuel – or whatever its called now (No additives or NOS)
Std OEM Oil and Fluids.

We saw a peak of 250BHP at one point but the averages of three runs is 245. Intake temps are preventing further gains as the dip @ 6000 rpm shows.

I have shown the dyno run compared to my previous run without the CAM and tune, what is amazing is the torque delta, around 20lb/ft extra @ 2500 rpm !

The car feels totally different now, like it’s a bigger engined car, it feels far more refined, smooth and effortless and is deceptively quicker, the 1:1 throttle mapping (the equivalent of a free sprint booster) is just right and to top it all its now using less fuel !

AND I AM A RECORD BREAKER

Thanks as ever to Paul and Chris @ 1320 for all your hard work in creating another WORLD RECORD CAR.

Ant FR · May 22nd, 2008, 10:07 AM

to break a record soes'nt it have to be there in the first place, where are all these records listed as i never knew about em.

Maybe the term should be record setter, so the bar is set.

Rakey · May 22nd, 2008, 10:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

to break a record soes'nt it have to be there in the first place, where are all these records listed as i never knew about em.

Maybe the term should be record setter, so the bar is set.

Very true, and was there someone there from Guinness World Record to record this 'record'?

Or was there just lots of Guinness consumed

sam_a156 · May 22nd, 2008, 10:30 AM

Interesting - surely very high numbers for a JCW! Must be a very strong car to begin with..and the 1320autos cam doing its magic

What about whp?

Sam

Paul Webster · May 22nd, 2008, 11:19 AM

When blavk20vt first came to 1320 we were very impressed with how much boost it was making with the stock pulley and thus advise that the money would be better spent elsewhere to create some more hp / trq.

Okay so its not good advice from a business point of view but we try to approach spending money on each customers car as if its our own money

.

I nearly fell of f the chair laughing at the Christune ™ 1320 Custom Remap

black20vt · May 22nd, 2008, 11:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey (original)

Very true, and was there someone there from Guinness World Record to record this 'record'?

Or was there just lots of Guinness consumed

The man from Guinness was temporalily dazzled by the stickers on Bigshow's car so may not have 'officially' recorded it

Yes the force is strong with this car, WHP ? PAUL ??

Just goes to show that the JCW head is not as bad as its rep, you just have to allow it to breathe.

and no I'm not saying it is better than other aftermarket heads, just that if you have one - and many people do - it is not the barrier to more power.

batou · May 22nd, 2008, 11:40 AM

How are you liking the sound of the Janspeed and JCW mate? Awesome or what!!

BigShow · May 22nd, 2008, 11:51 AM

LMAO!! Great to meet you yesterday and very impressive results... Roy Castle would be proud

sam_a156 · May 22nd, 2008, 12:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

:
I nearly fell of f the chair laughing at the Christune ™ 1320 Custom Remap

Seriously though, what is this remap? Or is it a trade secret?

At least the rev limiter was raised...

black20vt · May 22nd, 2008, 12:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sam_a156 (original)

Seriously though, what is this remap? Or is it a trade secret?

At least the rev limiter was raised...

Its a live mapping on the dyno using Dimsport software - and Chris does it hence the natty name

exactly the same as the RMW Jan tuning in the States except thats done by Jan and this is done by Chris. Hope that clears things up.

Oh and Chris has some prior experience with a small engineering outfit mapping engines with 20,000 rpm limiters - just in case anyone thought he was a farmer

sam_a156 · May 22nd, 2008, 01:05 PM

Where is your rev limiter set now?

Loui · May 22nd, 2008, 01:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by black20vt (original)

Its a live mapping on the dyno using Dimsport software - and Chris does it hence the natty name

exactly the same as the RMW Jan tuning in the States except thats done by Jan and this is done by Chris. Hope that clears things up.

Oh and Chris has some prior experience with a small engineering outfit mapping engines with 20,000 rpm limiters - just in case anyone thought he was a farmer

They must have been some pretty fast combines???

MINI-Morgan · May 22nd, 2008, 01:38 PM

Very impressive! Especially with no diff

Would be interested to see how it performs with a new head aswell though! The boost is very good when you consider the cam will have removed a couple of psi from what it was before. Very impressive!

Also shows that the very high rev limit isnt really needed and 7250 is a good place to end

black20vt · May 22nd, 2008, 01:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Very impressive! Especially with no diff

Would be interested to see how it performs with a new head aswell though! The boost is very good when you consider the cam will have removed a couple of psi from what it was before. Very impressive!

Also shows that the very high rev limit isnt really needed and 7250 is a good place to end

My goal was 250bhp and a head isn't in my plans - just cost/benefit for me really as this is a fast road machine. (and I would lose my world record

). I am interested in cooling though as that is what is capping the power at present - I keep hearing the word 'laminova' in my head, but it is so well sorted right now....

Paul Webster · May 22nd, 2008, 03:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by black20vt (original)

My goal was 250bhp and a head isn't in my plans - just cost/benefit for me really as this is a fast road machine. (and I would lose my world record

). I am interested in cooling though as that is what is capping the power at present - I keep hearing the word 'laminova' in my head, but it is so well sorted right now....

Now there is a

idea

Jaw_F430 · May 22nd, 2008, 04:30 PM

Well done to all involved

That is some very good power with your mods

You sure someone has not slipped a crank pulley on

lol

What boost was you making?

Paul Webster · May 22nd, 2008, 05:36 PM

1 to 1.1 bar

sam_a156 · May 22nd, 2008, 05:39 PM

That's almost 16psi

Sounds really high for only -11-12%pulley?!

Jaw_F430 · May 22nd, 2008, 05:42 PM

Thats making some very high boost for 11%

My 15% with stock head only made 1.12bar

Looks like a "speical JCW car from the factroy"

BigShow · May 22nd, 2008, 08:27 PM

I think the MD built this one himself

May 22nd, 2008, 09:54 AM	#1
black20vt MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntingdon Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 50 Offline	*Most powerful M45 11% JCW in the World!! terms and conditions apply** Most powerful M45 11% JCW in the World!! * terms and conditions apply The record has been brought home to Blighty! Yesterday @ 1320 history was made when my car broke the Antarctican held power record for an M45 11% JCW by crossing the dyno at 114 mph. with a frankly astonishing 245.8 BHP @ 7221RPM and 193.5 lbft @ 4998. This is all with the original JCW head, exhaust and 11% pulley as required by Guinness. This feat was made possible by the addition of the 1320 CAM and liberal application of Christune ™ understanding. The car: 2004 JCW Mini Cooper S – 190 conversion – 50K Miles JCW Head JCW 380c Injectors 1320 Camshaft GTT Intercooler Christune ™ 1320 Custom Remap GTT CAI JCW 11% Pulley Janspeed Manifold JCW Exhaust (No kink) OEM Spark Plugs Eibach lowered springs Front bush thingies Stock Clutch (On the car since new) No Diff OZ Superleggera 16” Alloys Toyo T1S Tyres (205/50/16) Shell Optimax Fuel – or whatever its called now (No additives or NOS) Std OEM Oil and Fluids. We saw a peak of 250BHP at one point but the averages of three runs is 245. Intake temps are preventing further gains as the dip @ 6000 rpm shows. I have shown the dyno run compared to my previous run without the CAM and tune, what is amazing is the torque delta, around 20lb/ft extra @ 2500 rpm ! The car feels totally different now, like it’s a bigger engined car, it feels far more refined, smooth and effortless and is deceptively quicker, the 1:1 throttle mapping (the equivalent of a free sprint booster) is just right and to top it all its now using less fuel ! AND I AM A RECORD BREAKER Thanks as ever to Paul and Chris @ 1320 for all your hard work in creating another WORLD RECORD CAR. Attached Thumbnails

May 22nd, 2008, 10:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 50,029 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original) to break a record soes'nt it have to be there in the first place, where are all these records listed as i never knew about em. Maybe the term should be record setter, so the bar is set. Very true, and was there someone there from Guinness World Record to record this 'record'? Or was there just lots of Guinness consumed The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

May 22nd, 2008, 11:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	When blavk20vt first came to 1320 we were very impressed with how much boost it was making with the stock pulley and thus advise that the money would be better spent elsewhere to create some more hp / trq. Okay so its not good advice from a business point of view but we try to approach spending money on each customers car as if its our own money. I nearly fell of f the chair laughing at the Christune ™ 1320 Custom Remap Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

May 22nd, 2008, 11:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
batou Turbo Schmurbo... Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maidenhead Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 809 Offline	How are you liking the sound of the Janspeed and JCW mate? Awesome or what!! 235+ BHP "Works" Eater

May 22nd, 2008, 11:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 928 Offline	LMAO!! Great to meet you yesterday and very impressive results... Roy Castle would be proud http://www.MiniTorque.com

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May 22nd, 2008, 10:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	to break a record soes'nt it have to be there in the first place, where are all these records listed as i never knew about em. Maybe the term should be record setter, so the bar is set.

May 22nd, 2008, 10:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
sam_a156 Flying Finn My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warsaw Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 371 Offline	Interesting - surely very high numbers for a JCW! Must be a very strong car to begin with..and the 1320autos cam doing its magic What about whp? Sam

May 22nd, 2008, 11:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
black20vt MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntingdon Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 50 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey (original) Very true, and was there someone there from Guinness World Record to record this 'record'? Or was there just lots of Guinness consumed The man from Guinness was temporalily dazzled by the stickers on Bigshow's car so may not have 'officially' recorded it Yes the force is strong with this car, WHP ? PAUL ?? Just goes to show that the JCW head is not as bad as its rep, you just have to allow it to breathe. and no I'm not saying it is better than other aftermarket heads, just that if you have one - and many people do - it is not the barrier to more power.

May 22nd, 2008, 12:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
sam_a156 Flying Finn My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warsaw Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 371 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original) : I nearly fell of f the chair laughing at the Christune ™ 1320 Custom Remap Seriously though, what is this remap? Or is it a trade secret? At least the rev limiter was raised...

May 22nd, 2008, 12:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
black20vt MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntingdon Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 50 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sam_a156 (original) Seriously though, what is this remap? Or is it a trade secret? At least the rev limiter was raised... Its a live mapping on the dyno using Dimsport software - and Chris does it hence the natty name exactly the same as the RMW Jan tuning in the States except thats done by Jan and this is done by Chris. Hope that clears things up. Oh and Chris has some prior experience with a small engineering outfit mapping engines with 20,000 rpm limiters - just in case anyone thought he was a farmer

May 22nd, 2008, 01:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
sam_a156 Flying Finn My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warsaw Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 371 Offline	Where is your rev limiter set now?

May 22nd, 2008, 01:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 3,036 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by black20vt (original) Its a live mapping on the dyno using Dimsport software - and Chris does it hence the natty name exactly the same as the RMW Jan tuning in the States except thats done by Jan and this is done by Chris. Hope that clears things up. Oh and Chris has some prior experience with a small engineering outfit mapping engines with 20,000 rpm limiters - just in case anyone thought he was a farmer They must have been some pretty fast combines??? WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

May 22nd, 2008, 01:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Very impressive! Especially with no diff Would be interested to see how it performs with a new head aswell though! The boost is very good when you consider the cam will have removed a couple of psi from what it was before. Very impressive! Also shows that the very high rev limit isnt really needed and 7250 is a good place to end One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

May 22nd, 2008, 01:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
black20vt MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntingdon Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 50 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original) Very impressive! Especially with no diff Would be interested to see how it performs with a new head aswell though! The boost is very good when you consider the cam will have removed a couple of psi from what it was before. Very impressive! Also shows that the very high rev limit isnt really needed and 7250 is a good place to end My goal was 250bhp and a head isn't in my plans - just cost/benefit for me really as this is a fast road machine. (and I would lose my world record ). I am interested in cooling though as that is what is capping the power at present - I keep hearing the word 'laminova' in my head, but it is so well sorted right now....

May 22nd, 2008, 03:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by black20vt (original) My goal was 250bhp and a head isn't in my plans - just cost/benefit for me really as this is a fast road machine. (and I would lose my world record ). I am interested in cooling though as that is what is capping the power at present - I keep hearing the word 'laminova' in my head, but it is so well sorted right now.... Now there is a idea Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

May 22nd, 2008, 04:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 735 Offline	Well done to all involved That is some very good power with your mods You sure someone has not slipped a crank pulley on lol What boost was you making?

May 22nd, 2008, 05:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
Paul Webster MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beds Cambs Northants Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 1,956 Offline	1 to 1.1 bar Slicks 11.77@115.92mph Street tyres 12.162 @ 119.02 It's not how much you spend but how well you spend it

May 22nd, 2008, 05:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
sam_a156 Flying Finn My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warsaw Local Time: 10:08 PM Posts: 371 Offline	That's almost 16psi Sounds really high for only -11-12%pulley?!

May 22nd, 2008, 05:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 735 Offline	Thats making some very high boost for 11% My 15% with stock head only made 1.12bar Looks like a "speical JCW car from the factroy"

May 22nd, 2008, 08:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
BigShow Tunnel Runner My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 928 Offline	I think the MD built this one himself http://www.MiniTorque.com

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