[alski]

just gave mine a thrash, 60ish in second, nice noise july 05 mcs

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow300 (original)

Pre-facelifts can only do it with a slightly increased rev limit as I tried it with the stock rev limit and the performance box and although the speedo says its doing more than 70mph its only really doing 69 then it just bounces off the limiter , but defo better than the facelift model.

Oh man! im doing the numbers wrong again! I meant 65 in my post sorry! Atleast its more than 60 with the stock limit so 0-60s can be done in 2 gears

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow300 (original)

Pre-facelifts can only do it with a slightly increased rev limit as I tried it with the stock rev limit and the performance box and although the speedo says its doing more than 70mph its only really doing 69 then it just bounces off the limiter , but defo better than the facelift model.

We need to try this in my car when we find somewhere, might just get it with my rev limit with facelift box

[BigShow]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

We need to try this in my car when we find somewhere, might just get it with my rev limit with facelift box

The performance box is primed and ready, 4.2 seconds to beat!

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow300 (original)

The performance box is primed and ready, 4.2 seconds to beat!

.4 of a second to knock my 4.6 through the gears, how long does a normal gearchange take?0.5? (hope I can hit 70 in 2nd, will it log the speed and time anway if it hits 69?).

Really want to do 0-100 to see if it is quicker than a friends P1

[BigShow]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

.4 of a second to knock my 4.6 through the gears, how long does a normal gearchange take?0.5? (hope I can hit 70 in 2nd, will it log the speed and time anway if it hits 69?).

Really want to do 0-100 to see if it is quicker than a friends P1

You should beat 4.2 with the later spec box.

0-100 time to beat is 12.6 in mine which is slower than a P1 as is the 1/4 mile time as the P1 does 0-100 mph in 12.27 seconds, with a standing quarter mile in 13.49 seconds.

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow300 (original)

You should beat 4.2 with the later spec box.

0-100 time to beat is 12.6 in mine which is slower than a P1 as is the 1/4 mile time as the P1 does 0-100 mph in 12.27 seconds, with a standing quarter mile in 13.49 seconds.

Would be close with the p1 then as mine should be similar to yours. More tempted to come on Friday now so I could try the PB up the strip

[Goonery]

BKE is the later box, stronger and beefed internals, better MPG , better accel through the gears and the ECU had a remap to help it all along

[BigShow]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

Would be close with the p1 then as mine should be similar to yours. More tempted to come on Friday now so I could try the PB up the strip

Do it! Do it! Do it!... dude defo come friday, Paul is running my car, Jove is coming too, it'll be a cracking day out, plus it'll only be 15C . If you want to come down the night before you're welcome to stay at Casa BigShow mate as its only 25 mins from mine to the Pod.

[MINIAC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

BKE is the later box, stronger and beefed internals, better MPG ...

The later box requires 125 more RPM to maintain 65 MPH in 6th gear, so I don't see how it provides better MPG

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original)

The later box requires 125 more RPM to maintain 65 MPH in 6th gear, so I don't see how it provides better MPG

Well the ECU settings were revised to improve the overall performance and better MPG to boot.

I'm really looking forward to September Ron, will be good to chew the fat over dinner in SF with you

[Paul Webster]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigShow300 (original)

Do it! Do it! Do it!... dude defo come friday, Paul is running my car, Jove is coming too, it'll be a cracking day out, plus it'll only be 15C . If you want to come down the night before you're welcome to stay at Casa BigShow mate as its only 25 mins from mine to the Pod.

Dont encourage him Big Show, let him keep going up his uphill drag strip, otherwise the Worlds Fastest M45 title might be going up north

Be good to see ya Jaw, could be ideal conditions for a stock looking Mini running 13s.

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Dont encourage him Big Show, let him keep going up his uphill drag strip, otherwise the Worlds Fastest M45 title might be going up north

Be good to see ya Jaw, could be ideal conditions for a stock looking Mini running 13s.

I may see if I can put a days holiday in tomorrow for Friday and then find some more power (take the back seats out lol)

Getting a bit frightened of my uphill drag strip as going tooo fast now when on the bend

[Lucky Dave]

Im glad you got the answers! I had a feeling my gearbox was coming out in the morning just to be checked!!

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original)

Im glad you got the answers! I had a feeling my gearbox was coming out in the morning just to be checked!!

It could have happened!

[jhiggs26]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

It could have happened!

Hey Bhozar it's Jeremy from NAM.

Did you ever count the two pinion gears on that late box?

Jeremy

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by jhiggs26 (original)

Hey Bhozar it's Jeremy from NAM.

Did you ever count the two pinion gears on that late box?

Jeremy

I forgot to count, but I did take a picture from the top down, so you can count them.

I think you'll find they are the same, and its just the final drive that differs.



The final drive on this box had 89 teeth, and an LSD. It had BKL on its sticker.

[Bhozar]

Forgot to say, 'BKE' or 'BKL' (With LSD) on the sticker and/or 89 teeth on the final drive shows a box is a facelift.

Always double check, as I bought the last box from a MINI breaker (MINI Matt), and asked him multiple times if it was a face lift box. He pointed at the sticker on the box and said, "It says BKD, and that means its a facelift." Could have been a mistake, but that means the guy doesnt have a clue, or he lied to me.

[scraggles]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Forgot to say, 'BKE' or 'BKL' (With LSD) on the sticker and/or 89 teeth on the final drive shows a box is a facelift.

Always double check, as I bought the last box from a MINI breaker (MINI Matt), and asked him multiple times if it was a face lift box. He pointed at the sticker on the box and said, "It says BKD, and that means its a facelift." Could have been a mistake, but that means the guy doesnt have a clue, or he lied to me.

I nearly bought one off eBay. I wanted a facelift box, and had been told that BKA was pre July 2004 and BKE was post July 2004 facelift. The vendor told be it was a July 2004 box with BKD so I stayed clear. Seems like you've confirmed my suspicions, cheers!

[jhiggs26]

From my NAM reply:

"Thanks for the pic Bhozar. Yeah there's 31 teeth on the 1/2/5/6 mainshaft pinion in your photo(just like my gearbox). The 3/4/R pinion is obstructed in the pic from getting a count. I think you're right though; it seems like it's just the crown wheel gear that's different between these gearboxes.

Simple math tells me that pre-facelift FD ratios are 2.74:1 for 1/2/5/6 and 4.05:1 for 3/4/Reverse.

Facelift FD ratios are 2.87:1 for 1/2/5/6 and 4.24:1 for 3/4/Reverse.

Anybody know if that is right?

Jeremy"