[MINI-Morgan]

I'd like to hear too! I cant see how it would effect it one bit as its is already engaged. What I think they probably mean is you changing to a lower gear which caused a sudden slowing of the car as the revs build up. the dropping to 3rd when coming off the motorway without blipping it thing.

800rpm is 50rpm above stock. I set mine to 800rpm as I have a face lift which has a rubbish idle from the factory.....

[batou]

800rpm was a guess mate, could be less i'll get the service menu reading later. How would the idle be increased? Is this something thats inherited from the flywheel?

Ps. Just done my first two tanks post clutch / flywheel and got 22-23 mpg. It was 19mpg the previous two weeks before I booked it in so I must be being more gentle

[DaFlake]

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

Ps. Just done my first two tanks post clutch / flywheel and got 22-23 mpg. It was 19mpg the previous two weeks before I booked it in

Yeah, that is just because you have to pamper it.

[batou]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Yeah, that is just because you have to pamper it.

Just added that, thats what I meant lol. I didn't want people thinking a light flywheel and stage 2 clutch gives improved mpg haha!

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

800rpm was a guess mate, could be less i'll get the service menu reading later. How would the idle be increased? Is this something thats inherited from the flywheel?

Ps. Just done my first two tanks post clutch / flywheel and got 22-23 mpg. It was 19mpg the previous two weeks before I booked it in so I must be being more gentle

The idle is ECU managed and adapted depending on how rough the engine is running. At the stock 750rpm mine useto be really rough quite often as it tried to adapt but at 800rpm its 100% smooth all the time. Usually adding a very light flywheel will cause a slightly more rough idle due to a big drop in rotational mass. Idle can be increased via a remapping or by application adaption which is how I do mine. I set an adaption of the standard idle to +50rpm.

Is that due to the flywheel or because you are driving like a granny running it in

[batou]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

The idle is ECU managed and adapted depending on how rough the engine is running. At the stock 750rpm mine useto be really rough quite often as it tried to adapt but at 800rpm its 100% smooth all the time. Usually adding a very light flywheel will cause a slightly more rough idle due to a big drop in rotational mass. Idle can be increased via a remapping or by application adaption which is how I do mine. I set an adaption of the standard idle to +50rpm.

Is that due to the flywheel or because you are driving like a granny running it in

I see, well it doesn't feel like its trying to compensate and Chris didn't mention setting an increased idle speed. I'm being a granny in 1st gear so probably helps, seriously though... 23mpg when driving gentle is a joke. This car is like an overfed alligator lol .... More... More!.... MORE!!!

[Revolution Mini Works]

glad your clutch got there and you like it. We sell many clutches a week and people love them.

Looks like I have to claim insurance on the clutch as it still hasn't shown up

the best thing about the Clutchmaster is the light pedal feel due to the fulcrom positioning on the pressure plate..... excellent design

[DaFlake]

Lost in customs I suppose. This happens more than you would think. It will probably show up sooner or later.

Jan, what is the cost of that kit with flywheel?

[batou]

Hi guys went on a 40-50 mile round trip yesterday, mainly back roads with lots of junctions and 20-60mph sections. Cars done 338 miles on the clutch so far and I haven't leaned on it once.

Slight concern last night as 10miles from home I got some slip in 2nd, launched as normal (as described earlier) and the pedal travel was quite long then as I accelrated in 2nd the revs rose really quick. So I put it in 3rd/4th and even more carefully drove home. Bit of a worry as I have followed the guidelines, maybe it may require some adjustment?

I'm not that clued up on clutch components... in ideas what would cause this. I guess 40-50 miles with lots of stop start puts more heat in than motorway driving but the main reason I'm doing back roads is the break in period requires normal stop start driving... maybe problems with the master cylinder (still same one) when it gets hot? Can't see how it could be the clutch plate itself as there was no smell from it at all.

[MINI-Morgan]

Might have just got stuck releasing?? When you released in 3rd the travel was ok?

[batou]

It slipped a little in third so I just bunged it in 4th and tickled the throttle home. I reckon it was heat, but how and what parts would this affect. Travel seemed longer than earlier in the trip which didn't make sense lol. If anything it would get shorter right??

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Lost in customs I suppose. This happens more than you would think. It will probably show up sooner or later.

Jan, what is the cost of that kit with flywheel?

$800 + shipping/vat

[batou]

Quote: Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works (original)

glad your clutch got there and you like it. We sell many clutches a week and people love them.

Looks like I have to claim insurance on the clutch as it still hasn't shown up

the best thing about the Clutchmaster is the light pedal feel due to the fulcrom positioning on the pressure plate..... excellent design

I was suprised the pedal was lighter than stock, really nice suprise though. I'm off for a drive later so I'll report back. I've got a feeling it warmed up a bit and something didn't like it. Not mechanically minded enough to know what else can go wrong in that area though...

[DaFlake]

Nice! Save $200 over ordering direct.

[jhiggs26]

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

I was suprised the pedal was lighter than stock, really nice suprise though. I'm off for a drive later so I'll report back. I've got a feeling it warmed up a bit and something didn't like it. Not mechanically minded enough to know what else can go wrong in that area though...

After years of peeking in I finally caved and joined MINI2.

Batou, I installed the same CM FW and CM Clutch Kit last month from RMW.

I noticed the engagement point got higher off of the floor as the clutch disc bed in. My clutch pedal is firmer not lighter than stock. I hope you don't have air in your hydraulic lines.

I've also read that full faced carbon/kevlar discs are prone to odd slippage so don't worry it will apparently pass with spirited use. I've not experienced any clutch slip yet with my CM FX200.

Finally, I'm happy that you're having good times during your break in period!

Jeremy

[blaze6]

Quote: Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works (original)

$800 + shipping/vat

i notice the stage 2 clutch is the same price as the stage 3 clutch. are there any adv/disadvantages when comparing them?

[Revolution Mini Works]

Quote: Originally Posted by sayanthan (original)

i notice the stage 2 clutch is the same price as the stage 3 clutch. are there any adv/disadvantages when comparing them?

the FX 300 is a more aggressive engaging clutch

[batou]

Quote: Originally Posted by jhiggs26 (original)

After years of peeking in I finally caved and joined MINI2.

Batou, I installed the same CM FW and CM Clutch Kit last month from RMW.

I noticed the engagement point got higher off of the floor as the clutch disc bed in. My clutch pedal is firmer not lighter than stock. I hope you don't have air in your hydraulic lines.

I've also read that full faced carbon/kevlar discs are prone to odd slippage so don't worry it will apparently pass with spirited use. I've not experienced any clutch slip yet with my CM FX200.

Finally, I'm happy that you're having good times during your break in period!

Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,

Seen your threads on NAM which helped me decide on what to get . Thanks for the info, well I had no issues on the same drive yesterday but I the traffic was lighter so less clutch use. So what kind of feedback would I get if there was air in the lines?

Well it is still bedding in so I'll just stick at it for a bit longer, yea, its actually suprising how much fun you can have without pushing the car. Because I have to play nice with the gearbox clutch and throttle means I'm playing with corners a bit more... partly due to Chris showing me what a pansy I am round bends lol, he drove me back from the station when I came to collect the car. This thing can corner much better than I thought hehe

[jhiggs26]

Batou, the classic symptom with air in hydraulic lines is light, spongy pedal feel compared to stock(FX200 is our new stock-hehe). I immediately sensed the increased pedal pressure after I bled the clutch due to the new CM pressure plate. Make sure you brake master cylinder is topped up too!

Enjoy your new found MINI agility!

Jeremy

[blaze6]

Quote: Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works (original)

the FX 300 is a more aggressive engaging clutch

and in terms of durability of wearable parts and smoothness?