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blaze6 · Jun 16th, 2008, 06:56 PM

can you fit both? any problems with this? just curious...may seem like a technically stupid question from a novice like me!

DaFlake · Jun 16th, 2008, 07:04 PM

I would avoid the lightened crank as non are dampened.

Aberdeen Al · Jun 16th, 2008, 08:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sayanthan (original)

can you fit both? any problems with this? just curious...may seem like a technically stupid question from a novice like me!

I've got both and have no problems so far!!

Jaw_F430 · Jun 16th, 2008, 09:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sayanthan (original)

can you fit both? any problems with this? just curious...may seem like a technically stupid question from a novice like me!

You can fit both but I would avoid the crank pulley for the same reason mentioned above.

There are debates about the crank pulley but people will say there is no hard facts that crank pullies cause problems but I beg to differ. Over the pond there was a case of I think 6 cars having oil pumps failures and the ONLY common parts was. . . . . . . . . . the undampened lightened crank pulley

Make you own choice though but there is my opinion

GARY GP · Jun 16th, 2008, 09:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aberdeen Al (original)

I've got both and have no problems so far!!

Same here just a very quick GP..

i believe your dead a very long time FIT IT you know you want too...

batou · Jun 17th, 2008, 07:02 AM

I have a lightened flywheel as you know and because of it there is an increase in chatter from the gearbox, its one of the disadvantage of having a solid flywheel instead of a dual mass. I would imagine adding a lighter & un-dampened crank pulley would pass the increased vibration across to other parts much more than the stock would.

Think of it as a Angry dog... fitting the lighter flywheel is like poking it with a stick... fitting a crank pulley without a vibration damper is like taking off the muzzle lol, either way it's going to end up in a mess

GARY GP · Jun 17th, 2008, 07:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

I have a lightened flywheel as you know and because of it there is an increase in chatter from the gearbox, its one of the disadvantage of having a solid flywheel instead of a dual mass. I would imagine adding a lighter & un-dampened crank pulley would pass the increased vibration across to other parts much more than the stock would.

Think of it as a Angry dog... fitting the lighter flywheel is like poking it with a stick... fitting a crank pulley without a vibration damper is like taking off the muzzle lol, either way it's going to end up in a mess

lol i here what your saying! but it had done 45.000 miles and my cooper s was flogged to 7400rpm...

no maybe its a (testament) and i am doing it again to my GP..

batou · Jun 17th, 2008, 09:05 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by V 5ARY (original)

lol i here what your saying! but it had done 45.000 miles and my cooper s was flogged to 7400rpm...

no maybe its a (testament) and i am doing it again to my GP..

From what Roland said it's worth looking at it around 50k so only applicable if your going high miles with the car or your kind to your next owner

GARY GP · Jun 18th, 2008, 06:15 PM

It also could be the First 20L GP in the UK..

time and money will tell..

2 much · Jun 18th, 2008, 06:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by V 5ARY (original)

It also could be the First 20L GP in the UK..

time will tell..

someone has to be first

.

Jaw_F430 · Jun 18th, 2008, 07:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by V 5ARY (original)

It also could be the First 20L GP in the UK..

time and money will tell..

The first 2.0L MCS in the UK will be born soon

GARY GP · Jun 18th, 2008, 07:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

The first 2.0L MCS in the UK will be born soon

The 20L Torque machines are coming..

jhiggs26 · Jun 18th, 2008, 11:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original)

I have a lightened flywheel as you know and because of it there is an increase in chatter from the gearbox, its one of the disadvantage of having a solid flywheel instead of a dual mass. I would imagine adding a lighter & un-dampened crank pulley would pass the increased vibration across to other parts much more than the stock would.

Think of it as a Angry dog... fitting the lighter flywheel is like poking it with a stick... fitting a crank pulley without a vibration damper is like taking off the muzzle lol, either way it's going to end up in a mess

Batou, I'm pretty sure the chatter is from the sprung disc not the flywheel(flywheel is bolted to the crank baby). The chatter I hear-in neutral-is from the pressure plate wiggling around clamped to the flywheel.

After you break in your clutch you're going to love the reduced rotating mass man! I'm only down about 10 pounds due to the heavier OBX diff I'm running. You're down about 15 lbs.

I'm glad I did the lighter flywheel because since the diameter of the flywheel is much greater than the crank pulley. More rev happy motor. Guys/gals running the crank pulley seem pretty happy though!

Jeremy

Jun 16th, 2008, 06:56 PM	#1
blaze6 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: surbiton Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 186 Offline	fit lightened crank pulley and lightened flywheel can you fit both? any problems with this? just curious...may seem like a technically stupid question from a novice like me! dr. blaze

Jun 16th, 2008, 07:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Jun 16th, 2008, 08:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Aberdeen Al MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 648 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sayanthan (original) can you fit both? any problems with this? just curious...may seem like a technically stupid question from a novice like me! I've got both and have no problems so far!! Vroooom Vroooom

Jun 16th, 2008, 09:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 730 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sayanthan (original) can you fit both? any problems with this? just curious...may seem like a technically stupid question from a novice like me! You can fit both but I would avoid the crank pulley for the same reason mentioned above. There are debates about the crank pulley but people will say there is no hard facts that crank pullies cause problems but I beg to differ. Over the pond there was a case of I think 6 cars having oil pumps failures and the ONLY common parts was. . . . . . . . . . the undampened lightened crank pulley Make you own choice though but there is my opinion Stock Cooper S @270+BHP 13.7@103.9 www.minitorque.com ULTIMATE BMW SHOW 21st Sept 2008- Santa Pod Raceway

Jun 17th, 2008, 07:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
batou Turbo Schmurbo... Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maidenhead Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 809 Offline	I have a lightened flywheel as you know and because of it there is an increase in chatter from the gearbox, its one of the disadvantage of having a solid flywheel instead of a dual mass. I would imagine adding a lighter & un-dampened crank pulley would pass the increased vibration across to other parts much more than the stock would. Think of it as a Angry dog... fitting the lighter flywheel is like poking it with a stick... fitting a crank pulley without a vibration damper is like taking off the muzzle lol, either way it's going to end up in a mess 235+ BHP "Works" Eater

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Jun 16th, 2008, 09:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
GARY GP GP-1528 My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 859 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aberdeen Al (original) I've got both and have no problems so far!! Same here just a very quick GP.. i believe your dead a very long time FIT IT you know you want too...

Jun 17th, 2008, 07:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
GARY GP GP-1528 My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 859 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original) I have a lightened flywheel as you know and because of it there is an increase in chatter from the gearbox, its one of the disadvantage of having a solid flywheel instead of a dual mass. I would imagine adding a lighter & un-dampened crank pulley would pass the increased vibration across to other parts much more than the stock would. Think of it as a Angry dog... fitting the lighter flywheel is like poking it with a stick... fitting a crank pulley without a vibration damper is like taking off the muzzle lol, either way it's going to end up in a mess lol i here what your saying! but it had done 45.000 miles and my cooper s was flogged to 7400rpm... no maybe its a (testament) and i am doing it again to my GP..

Jun 17th, 2008, 09:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
batou Turbo Schmurbo... Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maidenhead Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 809 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by V 5ARY (original) lol i here what your saying! but it had done 45.000 miles and my cooper s was flogged to 7400rpm... no maybe its a (testament) and i am doing it again to my GP.. From what Roland said it's worth looking at it around 50k so only applicable if your going high miles with the car or your kind to your next owner 235+ BHP "Works" Eater

Jun 18th, 2008, 06:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
GARY GP GP-1528 My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 859 Offline	It also could be the First 20L GP in the UK.. time and money will tell..

Jun 18th, 2008, 06:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
2 much MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by V 5ARY (original) It also could be the First 20L GP in the UK.. time will tell.. someone has to be first . turbo power

Jun 18th, 2008, 07:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 730 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by V 5ARY (original) It also could be the First 20L GP in the UK.. time and money will tell.. The first 2.0L MCS in the UK will be born soon Stock Cooper S @270+BHP 13.7@103.9 www.minitorque.com ULTIMATE BMW SHOW 21st Sept 2008- Santa Pod Raceway

Jun 18th, 2008, 07:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
GARY GP GP-1528 My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 01:55 PM Posts: 859 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original) The first 2.0L MCS in the UK will be born soon The 20L Torque machines are coming..

Jun 18th, 2008, 11:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
jhiggs26 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 05:55 AM Posts: 35 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by batou (original) I have a lightened flywheel as you know and because of it there is an increase in chatter from the gearbox, its one of the disadvantage of having a solid flywheel instead of a dual mass. I would imagine adding a lighter & un-dampened crank pulley would pass the increased vibration across to other parts much more than the stock would. Think of it as a Angry dog... fitting the lighter flywheel is like poking it with a stick... fitting a crank pulley without a vibration damper is like taking off the muzzle lol, either way it's going to end up in a mess Batou, I'm pretty sure the chatter is from the sprung disc not the flywheel(flywheel is bolted to the crank baby). The chatter I hear-in neutral-is from the pressure plate wiggling around clamped to the flywheel. After you break in your clutch you're going to love the reduced rotating mass man! I'm only down about 10 pounds due to the heavier OBX diff I'm running. You're down about 15 lbs. I'm glad I did the lighter flywheel because since the diameter of the flywheel is much greater than the crank pulley. More rev happy motor. Guys/gals running the crank pulley seem pretty happy though! Jeremy 2004 MCS

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