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Rich_W · Sep 26th, 2002, 02:28 PM

I just installed a set of front and rear cross drilled rotors and stainless brake lines from Rogue Engineering. Before I installed the brakes, I had my local electroplater, CAD plate them so they stay looking nice and silver on all the surfaces not touched by the pads. Now I don't have to look at rusty rotors though my open 18" OZ superleggera wheels! They do look sharp.... and they will fit nicely under my future Auto-X specific wheelset.

BTW, I finally weighed my wheel/tire combo. 37 lbs each. Of course not as light as a 16" setup, but certainly lighter than the stock 16" runflats at close to 50 lbs each.

Car is filthy right now...

And if my KW Coilovers I pre-ordered last month would get here... then I might be looking like this retouched image

macncheese · Sep 26th, 2002, 02:42 PM

Im not sure but is that a dent in your roof?

--
Cheese

jmardy · Sep 26th, 2002, 02:54 PM

That looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo good!

Any improvement in feel or stopping distance?

What difference can you feel going from the 50pounders to the OZ's?

Rich_W · Sep 26th, 2002, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jmardy

That looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo good!

Any improvement in feel or stopping distance?

What difference can you feel going from the 50pounders to the OZ's?

Definately improved pedal feel! Much firmer now.

Car is noticable quicker with the lighter wheels.

Rich_W · Sep 26th, 2002, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by macncheese
Im not sure but is that a dent in your roof?

--
Cheese

All I can say Cheesey D is thank god for the Wizard... 20 minutes later, it was gone. they needed to pull down the headliner slightly on the passenger side, but it went back up no problem.

Phew!!

jmardy · Sep 26th, 2002, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich_W

Definately improved pedal feel! Much firmer now.

Car is noticable quicker with the lighter wheels.

Dammit Rich.
The proper answer would have been:

NO, save your money, the brakes feel mushy and the lighter wheels make the car slower.

Guess I'll start saving (hiding) some money.

jlm · Sep 26th, 2002, 07:51 PM

when you do your photoshop lowering, don't forget to include the reduced ground clearance! i found a significant difference when going from stock 17's with runflats to 16" superleggeras with Kuhmos...(34lbs by the way)

also, the cad plating may mess with the friction co-efficient for the brakes...did you look into this?

DaveNagy · Sep 26th, 2002, 10:42 PM

Quote:

BTW, I finally weighed my wheel/tire combo. 37 lbs each. Of course not as light as a 16" setup, but certainly lighter than the stock 16" runflats at close to 50 lbs each.

The stock 16" setup doesn't weight 50lbs per corner, does it? That's what the 17" setup weighs. The stock wheels (R84 VSpokes or X-Lites or whatever the dang things are called) weigh about 17 pounds, and I'd think the 16" runflats would be a little lighter than the 25lb 17" runflats. Call it 23lbs, maybe? (I don't know.)

Anyway, that would add up to about 40 lbs. The fact that you've been able to "beat" that with an 18" solution is quite impressive. Good job!

Are those rotors any bigger than stock? They look tiny, but that's probably just because they're behind those big wheels!

-Dave

Rich_W · Sep 27th, 2002, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlm
also, the cad plating may mess with the friction co-efficient for the brakes...did you look into this? [/b]

The CAD plating wears off on the braking surface after a couple of drives. The only effect/purpose of the plating is cosmetic

Rich_W · Sep 27th, 2002, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveNagy

The stock 16" setup doesn't weight 50lbs per corner, does it? That's what the 17" setup weighs. The stock wheels (R84 VSpokes or X-Lites or whatever the dang things are called) weigh about 17 pounds, and I'd think the 16" runflats would be a little lighter than the 25lb 17" runflats. Call it 23lbs, maybe? (I don't know.)

Anyway, that would add up to about 40 lbs. The fact that you've been able to "beat" that with an 18" solution is quite impressive. Good job!

Are those rotors any bigger than stock? They look tiny, but that's probably just because they're behind those big wheels!

-Dave

I may be mistaken... I'm going to throw one of my 16's on the scale.

Rotors are stock units. They do look tiny, but I want to be able to fit a 15 or 16 autocross specific wheel/tire set in the near future.

Sep 26th, 2002, 02:28 PM	#1
Rich_W MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Rogue Engineering Cross Drilled Rotors and Stainless Lines Installed I just installed a set of front and rear cross drilled rotors and stainless brake lines from Rogue Engineering. Before I installed the brakes, I had my local electroplater, CAD plate them so they stay looking nice and silver on all the surfaces not touched by the pads. Now I don't have to look at rusty rotors though my open 18" OZ superleggera wheels! They do look sharp.... and they will fit nicely under my future Auto-X specific wheelset. BTW, I finally weighed my wheel/tire combo. 37 lbs each. Of course not as light as a 16" setup, but certainly lighter than the stock 16" runflats at close to 50 lbs each. Car is filthy right now... And if my KW Coilovers I pre-ordered last month would get here... then I might be looking like this retouched image

Sep 26th, 2002, 07:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
jlm MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ny,ny Local Time: 04:08 PM Posts: 1,072 Offline	when you do your photoshop lowering, don't forget to include the reduced ground clearance! i found a significant difference when going from stock 17's with runflats to 16" superleggeras with Kuhmos...(34lbs by the way) also, the cad plating may mess with the friction co-efficient for the brakes...did you look into this? john

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Sep 26th, 2002, 02:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 05:08 PM Posts: 1,212 Offline	Im not sure but is that a dent in your roof? -- Cheese

Sep 26th, 2002, 02:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
jmardy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Local Time: 02:08 PM Posts: 264 Offline	That looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo good! Any improvement in feel or stopping distance? What difference can you feel going from the 50pounders to the OZ's?

Sep 26th, 2002, 02:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rich_W MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by jmardy That looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo good! Any improvement in feel or stopping distance? What difference can you feel going from the 50pounders to the OZ's? Definately improved pedal feel! Much firmer now. Car is noticable quicker with the lighter wheels.

Sep 26th, 2002, 03:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rich_W MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by macncheese Im not sure but is that a dent in your roof? -- Cheese All I can say Cheesey D is thank god for the Wizard... 20 minutes later, it was gone. they needed to pull down the headliner slightly on the passenger side, but it went back up no problem. Phew!!

Sep 26th, 2002, 03:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
jmardy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Local Time: 02:08 PM Posts: 264 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Rich_W Definately improved pedal feel! Much firmer now. Car is noticable quicker with the lighter wheels. Dammit Rich. The proper answer would have been: NO, save your money, the brakes feel mushy and the lighter wheels make the car slower. Guess I'll start saving (hiding) some money.

Sep 26th, 2002, 10:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
DaveNagy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasanton, Californ Local Time: 01:08 PM Posts: 223 Offline	Quote: BTW, I finally weighed my wheel/tire combo. 37 lbs each. Of course not as light as a 16" setup, but certainly lighter than the stock 16" runflats at close to 50 lbs each. The stock 16" setup doesn't weight 50lbs per corner, does it? That's what the 17" setup weighs. The stock wheels (R84 VSpokes or X-Lites or whatever the dang things are called) weigh about 17 pounds, and I'd think the 16" runflats would be a little lighter than the 25lb 17" runflats. Call it 23lbs, maybe? (I don't know.) Anyway, that would add up to about 40 lbs. The fact that you've been able to "beat" that with an 18" solution is quite impressive. Good job! Are those rotors any bigger than stock? They look tiny, but that's probably just because they're behind those big wheels! -Dave

Sep 27th, 2002, 12:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rich_W MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by jlm also, the cad plating may mess with the friction co-efficient for the brakes...did you look into this? [/b] The CAD plating wears off on the braking surface after a couple of drives. The only effect/purpose of the plating is cosmetic

Sep 27th, 2002, 12:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rich_W MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by DaveNagy The stock 16" setup doesn't weight 50lbs per corner, does it? That's what the 17" setup weighs. The stock wheels (R84 VSpokes or X-Lites or whatever the dang things are called) weigh about 17 pounds, and I'd think the 16" runflats would be a little lighter than the 25lb 17" runflats. Call it 23lbs, maybe? (I don't know.) Anyway, that would add up to about 40 lbs. The fact that you've been able to "beat" that with an 18" solution is quite impressive. Good job! Are those rotors any bigger than stock? They look tiny, but that's probably just because they're behind those big wheels! -Dave I may be mistaken... I'm going to throw one of my 16's on the scale. Rotors are stock units. They do look tiny, but I want to be able to fit a 15 or 16 autocross specific wheel/tire set in the near future.

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