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carln · Jun 24th, 2008, 05:26 PM

I have searched around various places without any luck.

Can you buy baffled sumps for the mcs?

As i had one on my last car and it made a big difference.

Goonery · Jun 24th, 2008, 06:00 PM

What was your last car ?

Bhozar · Jun 24th, 2008, 06:16 PM

Revolution MINI Works did a gated oil pickup, that does the same sort of thing as the baffled sump. I cant find the pictures/thread at the moment though.

scraggles · Jun 24th, 2008, 09:18 PM

I'm curious to understand, in what ways did it make a big difference?

carln · Jun 24th, 2008, 09:36 PM

My last car was a track prep'd supercahrged saxo.

It made a differenec by not, giving the car oil surges on long sweeping corners and made sure the engine always had a constant supply of oil.

Goonery · Jun 24th, 2008, 10:14 PM

I think you'll find that the Getrag box is less like an oil tank than a Citroen so oily sloshing around on corners and under braking won't be so much of an issue

MarkW · Jun 24th, 2008, 10:50 PM

not sure the box has anything to do with engine oil in the sump?

robbo mcs · Jun 24th, 2008, 10:51 PM

Hi,

I dont know of anyone who has had oil surge / pressure issues, even when running on the track with full race suspension and slicks, generating huge G forces.

Fuel surge can be a problem in these circumstances. I've only had it in hairpins using heavy trail braking which generates big forward and lateral G forces at the same time just before you get back onto the accelerator. It has only happened when the tank is down to around a 10l or less.

Cheers

Robbo

jhiggs26 · Jun 25th, 2008, 12:27 AM

We have central oil pick-ups so we should be good. Just make sure your oil level is topped up for track time.

Jeremy

carln · Jun 25th, 2008, 06:41 AM

Thanks for all your replys. It was just something thats been in the back of my mind for a while and because i go to the Nuremburgring a few times every year i dont wanna have any oil issues.

Richard Crofts · Jun 25th, 2008, 11:43 AM

Ask bigshow.... I believe he has the RMW kit or has a baffled sump? Or I'm sure he was looking at getting one.

Shaun · Jun 25th, 2008, 11:56 AM

Just having a quick read through and thought "Baffled Sumps" would make a great user name.

s33gav · Jun 25th, 2008, 01:05 PM

Never heard of any oil issues on the mini, so as long as oil is topped up for track days then I doubt very much you'd need a baffled sump.

I'm in the process of getting a baffled sump for my 205 mi16 - now thats an engine that has serious oil surge issues!!

Ant FR · Jun 25th, 2008, 02:06 PM

or why not run a dry sump set up, just need the space in the engine bay for the oil reservoir i suppose and the scavenge pump,

MarkW · Jun 25th, 2008, 06:00 PM

and the added all be it slight benefit of a power hike

PmP · Jun 30th, 2008, 02:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs (original)

Hi,

I dont know of anyone who has had oil surge / pressure issues, even when running on the track with full race suspension and slicks, generating huge G forces.

Fuel surge can be a problem in these circumstances. I've only had it in hairpins using heavy trail braking which generates big forward and lateral G forces at the same time just before you get back onto the accelerator. It has only happened when the tank is down to around a 10l or less.

Cheers

Robbo

Having this problem with our university formula student car, its got a yamaha r6 bike engine and on long corners we are getting oil surge issues that resulted in a broken conrod on a side cylinder. But thats because a bike leans into a corner and a car leans the opposite way.

Jun 24th, 2008, 05:26 PM	#1
carln MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 24 Offline	Baffled sumps? I have searched around various places without any luck. Can you buy baffled sumps for the mcs? As i had one on my last car and it made a big difference. Electric blue, and black, track prep'd cooper s.

Jun 24th, 2008, 09:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
carln MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 24 Offline	My last car was a track prep'd supercahrged saxo. It made a differenec by not, giving the car oil surges on long sweeping corners and made sure the engine always had a constant supply of oil. Electric blue, and black, track prep'd cooper s.

Jun 24th, 2008, 10:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:06 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Hi, I dont know of anyone who has had oil surge / pressure issues, even when running on the track with full race suspension and slicks, generating huge G forces. Fuel surge can be a problem in these circumstances. I've only had it in hairpins using heavy trail braking which generates big forward and lateral G forces at the same time just before you get back onto the accelerator. It has only happened when the tank is down to around a 10l or less. Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

Jun 25th, 2008, 12:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
jhiggs26 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:06 PM Posts: 35 Offline	We have central oil pick-ups so we should be good. Just make sure your oil level is topped up for track time. Jeremy 2004 MCS

Jun 25th, 2008, 06:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
carln MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 24 Offline	Thanks for all your replys. It was just something thats been in the back of my mind for a while and because i go to the Nuremburgring a few times every year i dont wanna have any oil issues. Electric blue, and black, track prep'd cooper s.

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Jun 24th, 2008, 06:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Goonery 6X therapist My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 13,658 Offline	What was your last car ?

Jun 24th, 2008, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 1,280 Offline	Revolution MINI Works did a gated oil pickup, that does the same sort of thing as the baffled sump. I cant find the pictures/thread at the moment though.

Jun 24th, 2008, 09:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
scraggles MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 92 Offline	I'm curious to understand, in what ways did it make a big difference?

Jun 24th, 2008, 10:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Goonery 6X therapist My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 13,658 Offline	I think you'll find that the Getrag box is less like an oil tank than a Citroen so oily sloshing around on corners and under braking won't be so much of an issue

Jun 24th, 2008, 10:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
MarkW XR3i / JCW MCS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Full Throttle Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 454 Offline	not sure the box has anything to do with engine oil in the sump?

Jun 25th, 2008, 11:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 3,261 Offline	Ask bigshow.... I believe he has the RMW kit or has a baffled sump? Or I'm sure he was looking at getting one.

Jun 25th, 2008, 11:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
Shaun Mr Big Stuff Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Oldham Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 3,310 Offline	Just having a quick read through and thought "Baffled Sumps" would make a great user name. http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun-g/

Jun 25th, 2008, 01:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
s33gav MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Local Time: 10:06 PM Posts: 131 Offline	Never heard of any oil issues on the mini, so as long as oil is topped up for track days then I doubt very much you'd need a baffled sump. I'm in the process of getting a baffled sump for my 205 mi16 - now thats an engine that has serious oil surge issues!!

Jun 25th, 2008, 02:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 1,922 Offline	or why not run a dry sump set up, just need the space in the engine bay for the oil reservoir i suppose and the scavenge pump,

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Jun 25th, 2008, 06:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
MarkW XR3i / JCW MCS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Full Throttle Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 454 Offline	and the added all be it slight benefit of a power hike

Jun 30th, 2008, 02:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
PmP GP 06 MCS 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 09:06 PM Posts: 2,782 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs (original) Hi, I dont know of anyone who has had oil surge / pressure issues, even when running on the track with full race suspension and slicks, generating huge G forces. Fuel surge can be a problem in these circumstances. I've only had it in hairpins using heavy trail braking which generates big forward and lateral G forces at the same time just before you get back onto the accelerator. It has only happened when the tank is down to around a 10l or less. Cheers Robbo Having this problem with our university formula student car, its got a yamaha r6 bike engine and on long corners we are getting oil surge issues that resulted in a broken conrod on a side cylinder. But thats because a bike leans into a corner and a car leans the opposite way.

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