[2 much]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

Oh, we could compare the difference between my car and Lees turbo conversion too. There is a write-up here: Lee (2 Much) & Alex (Bhozar) @ Donnington Today - Mini Torque.

On Donnington a few weeks ago, on the straight under the Dunlop bridge Lee was hitting 125mph. I was hitting 118mph, and with a slightly chunky passenger (sorry Paul). Now Lees car is a quick track day weapon. I wonder what Lee would be doing if we swapped engines? That would be my 5th trackday.

i was hitting 135 mph on the dunlop straight 125 mph on the pit straight.120 mph down craner.and 125 up the hill towards copice.or in other words i snatch 5 th on four parts of the track.that is only my third time on donny park

[2 much]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

I know of one Mini Cooper S from Mini Torque that can lap CC in 1min17seconds on road tyres!!!

impressive.1 sec faster than a mini challange car.that would meen it would do a 1min 21sec round donny park on road tyers.

[DaFlake]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

I'm not making myself look bad, others are doing that job for me :-)) ...and as for keeping it real, oh man, you've got me totally wrong LOL.

I won't mention it again

Cheers,
K

I've got you wrong? I have gone to bat for you many times trying to give you the benefit of doubt but you continue to come on here and stir things up with claims that you refuse to back. To be honest, all of your rhetoric and banner waving is getting old. I have also asked you times and or hp figures that you have yet to produce. Having driven a Lambo in the past I am here to inform you that there is no way in hell that you could have done it unless he was toying with you or the car had a problem.

So, it is time for you to produce some viable proof on your claims or you need to back off the claims as it is starting to look like it is posted just to bait other people into arguments.

[Saad]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

Oh, and the end result? well, with my supercharged version as it was at 260bhp or 270bhp i was able to keep paces with a Lambo Merchialago on 1/4 mile bursts with bends, over about 3 miles (and yes, he was battering his car as much as me - i know, his exhaust nearly blew my ears drums out!!!!)

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

Not at all.

Doing 70mph in a 30mph zone ona side street where children play is STUPID !!! and kills people!

Doing 70mph on the motorway at 2am in the morning with nobody there is far safer.

How am i hypocrytical LOL

Cheers,
K.

So exactly where is there a motorway with bends tight enough that you need to slow down from 70mph to take them? If it's a normal motorway and you can't take a 1/2 mile radius corner at 70mph you need your handling sorted mate. Either that or you were both racing at a steady 70mph? Where's the race there?

Erm... Nothing about your story makes sense whatsoever. Maybe it did before you attempted to defend your hypocrisy. And given how much BS you seem to be sprouting I am starting to not to believe anything... I have lost a good friend in the most painful way thanks to people racing on "quiet" A Roads and I also have a wonderfully gifted friend who has lost the use of her legs at the tender age of 17 thanks to speeders on quiet "A Roads" so think twice next time you go out racing other cars.

[Bhozar]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2 much (original)

i was hitting 135 mph on the dunlop straight 125 mph on the pit straight.120 mph down craner.and 125 up the hill towards copice.or in other words i snatch 5 th on four parts of the track.that is only my third time on donny park

Ah well, I was close

[roland2003]

I will put Karls car on a totally independant RR just prior to the turbo conversion.
The same one that JCW210's produce approx 195bhp on, and the same same day as mine produced 270bhp (240whp) in front of 30 Mini owners (inc Graham GRS) 3 years ago.
And that was just our stage 2 head not the stage 4.
I think you guys are being realy unfair to Karl (again). So what if the Lambo driver wasnt giving it all....its no big deal , guys , hes not come on here and said 'your car is pants and mines so much better'
On a side note we had a GTT260 in a couple of weeks ago that has been fitted over 3 years ago with, its done many trackdays (inc Nurberg). In fact its been so good and trouble free I had forgotten we had done this one.

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

In fact its been so good and trouble free I had forgotten we had done this one.

Does that mean that you expect them to come back with issues?You sound surprised that this one has run without problems? I always thought you had 100% reliability

[wibbly]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

I think you guys are being realy unfair to Karl (again). So what if the Lambo driver wasnt giving it all....its no big deal

But I think the point is he did point out the Lamborghini driver was giving it the full beans

Quote:

and yes, he was battering his car as much as me - i know, his exhaust nearly blew my ears drums out!!!!

[GTT 280]

Wow - for a MINI community, I am shocked at the resentment of any good achievements. In fact, my mate was up here from London today and I told him about this. He just laughed, and said "dude, you should tell them all that if I wasn't in the car and only you were driving it then you'd have probably beat the lambo" - but I thought that although very funny, this may just be too much for the cynics LOL.

Roland - no problem with the RR, happy to do it before and after the Turbo, just out of curiosity really. The car ran really well today - hitting full revs time and time again and such a consistent sensation of torque - my mate was pi55ing his sides laughing!!!

Strange how the atmosphere in here is still a little sour, I thought the moderators had a clear out some months back??

I pop my head in to say hi all, and get this instant resentment. I'm out of here for a while.

Roland, you have my email address if you need to contact me at any time I hope life in sunny Dorset is good as usual i'll still check up on the forum posting for anything of interest to read

Regards (to those who are friendly )

Cheers,
K.

[GTT 280]

Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport (original)

I must say I was a little concerned at the state of your disc's Alex.

Anyway looks like they'll be a few stop watches at the Mini Action day in September, looking forward to seeing Roland and a few others there! For me I have nothing to prove

G, i thought you were one of the good guys? I don't have anything to prove either so i guess we have something in common - but it certainly isn't admiration of other MINI owners achievemnts (this is a MINI community website right??) (joke!)

As for the "70mph on a motorway at 2am" comment of mine - it was just an example of the approriateness of driving fast on a public highway. Like i said, i have had friends killed, so i JUST DON'T DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. The lambo experience was actually on a bypass that had a few roundabouts and 1/4 mile and 1/3 mile straights between. This puts it into context as we were obviously not doing 20000000mph LOL. I mean, come on, it's a v10 5 litre for bobs sake!!! If you think that wouldn't beat a MINI over a 5mile stretch of motorway then you'd be as looney as me, apparently

Well, as i said in my earlier post... i'm out of here guys. It's getting boring, again!

Byeeeeeeeeeee.

PS. those that need to contact me, just send me a PM and i'll respond via email

L8trz.

K.

[GTT 280]

Quote: Originally Posted by wibbly (original)

But I think the point is he did point out the Lamborghini driver was giving it the full beans

Dude, a lambo exhaust does not make the noise it did on that day feather footing on the throttle lol.

Go and watch them on track and you'll understand what i mean

...now, i said i was off, so i really must go now.

Cheers,
K.

[Damo]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

Wow - for a MINI community, I am shocked at the resentment of any good achievements. In fact, my mate was up here from London today and I told him about this. He just laughed, and said "dude, you should tell them all that if I wasn't in the car and only you were driving it then you'd have probably beat the lambo" - but I thought that although very funny, this may just be too much for the cynics LOL.

What achievement is that?

GTT280 - No proove so no achievment there.

Beating a Lambo - Again no proof there.

Beating a Lambo on the public highway without actually breaking the speed limit - sorry but this just reminds me of the Renault 5 racing in the Ali G film

ali g ricer race - Video

So what achievement Karl. Sorry but the only resentment created is due to some fanciful posts from yourself. And to think your another person I used to respect and take note of post wise until I found out how wrong they were. As for the clear out of people, think you'll find that the people branded as "bad apples" haven't even posted

I'm not trying to attack you personally or anything silly like that as at the end of the day this is just a forum, but like others you really haven't done yourself any favours with your own posts. You have become your own worst enemy.

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

you should tell them all that if I wasn't in the car and only you were driving it then you'd have probably beat the lambo" - but I thought that although very funny, this may just be too much for the cynics LOL.




Strange how the atmosphere in here is still a little sour, I thought the moderators had a clear out some months back??


K.

Is your friend a salad dodger? Not being nasty just we all know its power to weight that counts


The mods did have a clear out but if you look in the pits they are all back on now (apart from 2 temp bans) but as Damo said they have not posted.

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

I'm not misleading people, i would only be misleading people if i was lying. QED.

Cheers,
K.

Twisting the truth as I have seen a few people ask "where is the 280 conversion as it is not on their website, no they do a 280 turbo conversion but GTT 280 think he has that power with his S/C conversion". They do a 260 one but butt dyno says its 280. Come on you see where we are all coming from.

[GTT 280]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

I've got you wrong? I have gone to bat for you many times trying to give you the benefit of doubt but you continue to come on here and stir things up with claims that you refuse to back. To be honest, all of your rhetoric and banner waving is getting old. I have also asked you times and or hp figures that you have yet to produce. Having driven a Lambo in the past I am here to inform you that there is no way in hell that you could have done it unless he was toying with you or the car had a problem.

So, it is time for you to produce some viable proof on your claims or you need to back off the claims as it is starting to look like it is posted just to bait other people into arguments.

I am not refusing to backup anything. Please let me know when i have refused. I have said many many times that i will gladly RR my car, and will be before and after my 475bhp mod. It's just a bit difficult when i am out of the country working. There is a lot of jealousy around here. I guess money is the route of all evil!!! (say that with a little finger in the corner of the mouth! - goldmember in case any is wondering what the ???)

"Bannering" - it's just a signature - everyone has them. I don't work for GTT. I have absolutely no benefit in promoting GTT, Roland never gives me a discount!!!

Right, it's 1:37am - need sleep! jetlag AGAIN

L8trz y'all.

(just one last thought, i wonder if all of this is because written text does not portray an emotion very easily (i know it happens a lot in email!!), and it is very easy to take something that is meant with honesty and sincerity as sarcastic and offensive. If you ever met me in person you would know i don't have a nasty bone in my body - i have a real passion for cars, and i always talk about them with a big grin)

I honestly think i am wasting my breath here coz i can't think of any other way to get the message across. sorry folks.

K.

[Damo]

Right I'm better with Facts and Figures:

Lamborghini Murcielago (6.2L version as opposed to the later 6.5L version)

Peak Power: 571bhp + Kerb Weight: 1650kg = 346bhp/tonne (or is it ton?)

Source = Lamborghini Murciélago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now assuming your MINI has 280bhp, it would need to weigh 809kg!

Now being very generous say the weight of your S was 1200kg, that would mean it has 415bhp!

And thats going off the old Lambo not the LP640


Then there is the Gallardo...

Lamborghini Gallardo (again the old one)

Peak Power: 493bhp + Kerb Weight: 1569kg = 314bhp/tonne (or is it ton?)

Again assuming your MINI has 280bhp, it would need to weigh 891kg!

And again being very generous saying the weight of your S is 1200kg, that would mean it has 376bhp!

Sorry but being a figures man, they just don't add up, now you wonder why we question you?

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

I am not refusing to backup anything. Please let me know when i have refused. I have said many many times that i will gladly RR my car, and will be before and after my 475bhp mod. It's just a bit difficult when i am out of the country working. There is a lot of jealousy around here. I guess money is the route of all evil!!! (say that with a little finger in the corner of the mouth! - goldmember in case any is wondering what the ???)

"Bannering" - it's just a signature - everyone has them. I don't work for GTT. I have absolutely no benefit in promoting GTT, Roland never gives me a discount!!!

Right, it's 1:37am - need sleep! jetlag AGAIN

L8trz y'all.

(just one last thought, i wonder if all of this is because written text does not portray an emotion very easily (i know it happens a lot in email!!), and it is very easy to take something that is meant with honesty and sincerity as sarcastic and offensive. If you ever met me in person you would know i don't have a nasty bone in my body - i have a real passion for cars, and i always talk about them with a big grin)

I honestly think i am wasting my breath here coz i can't think of any other way to get the message across. sorry folks.

K.

If we all met up it would be fine as we all share the same passion, it is not an attack on you personally it is just people saying their thougths on things you have posted.

Your car power wise prob feels the same as mine so I know what is possible and what is not


P.S no green eyed monster here

[Damo]

Sorry for just picking out a couple of parts of your posts just want to answer 2 parts of your above post.

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

There is a lot of jealousy around here.

I can 100% say that I am not jealous of you or your car, as even if your car has 280bhp, and it may have, I would still choose mine. There is only really one car I would almost like more than mine and thats this one:



Plus there is the small fact of the power mine has been proven to produce Vs the actual money I have spent. So defo not jealous of the money you have spent to get the power you've got, and doubt anyone else on here is. In fact the only thing your car has got that I would class as better than mine (bar the power figure it may or may not have) is the suspension (read coilovers as I have the GTT braces) but that will be recitifed before Christmas.

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 280 (original)

I honestly think i am wasting my breath here coz i can't think of any other way to get the message across. sorry folks.

K.

Stick it on a RR yourself (rather than let Roland do it) with other MINI's that have been RR before so you can get an accurate figure. (i.e. if everyone gets low figures then you know its low, or if everyone gets high figures its high)

I RR'd my car with Graham's purely as his car is used as the benchmark as comes out with a similar figure on a regular basis. Hence the RR this coming Saturday that he is attending Its indpendant (in that it normally services Jap cars and my mate Rick aka RedUn uses it)

[Jaw_F430]

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

I can 100% say that I am not jealous of you or your car, as even if your car has 280bhp, and it may have, I would still choose mine. There is only really one car I would almost like more than mine and thats this one:

You know you want my car Damo, the stock one that shocks people at the dyno