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onrails · Oct 16th, 2002, 08:50 AM

Has anyone looked into putting a limited slip diff into an MCS yet? I take delivery next month and am curious to see how much of a difference it makes. I've been lucky enough to drive someone else's around a track and putting the power down coming out of a corner wasn't as good as I had hoped...inside front wheel is starting to spin a little and it's not as smooth on acceleration as it should be because of that.

Simon Jackson · Oct 16th, 2002, 09:36 AM

We are working on it at the moment, we have them done for the Cooper, the S one shouldn't be too much longer, I will post when I have more details

WAY · Oct 16th, 2002, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Simon Jackson
We are working on it at the moment, we have them done for the Cooper, the S one shouldn't be too much longer, I will post when I have more details

Simon, are you going to alter the final ratio? Please say you are as most of us here are not happy with the long gearing. It's your chance to change this. Also, any idea how much it would be (in AUstralia)?

Simon Jackson · Oct 16th, 2002, 10:00 AM

Thats the idea, we have succeeded on doing it on the Cooper offering 3 different ratio's, the same will hopefully be said for the S. We are also working on a Close Ratio S/C gear kit, but normal engagement, not Dog. I will post more about these products in the next couple of days.

minicoopersgirl · Oct 16th, 2002, 11:50 AM

I am most definitely getting a LSD!!
With that, the car will handle much nicer on the track. I will be saving up for a LSD after I get my wheels

Cape Cod MINI · Oct 16th, 2002, 06:40 PM

Check out MINIMania at this link. They have a lsd for the MCS at $1,695.00. Might be able to get some feed back from them. Check out the close ratio gear kit for the Cooper too. Interesting.

http://new.minimania.com/NewMiniMechanical.cfm

paulmon · Oct 16th, 2002, 09:56 PM

How big of a job is it to install something like this. Obviously not for the do it yourselfer, how long would it take for a pro to install this? $1695 isn't cheap and to add installation ontop of that.

Paul

swamos · Oct 16th, 2002, 10:27 PM

Will it affect the operation of the traction control or DSC??

Simon Jackson · Oct 17th, 2002, 04:24 AM

Cape Cod, Mini Mania is an affiliate company of ours in the US, we will actually be supplying them product.

GordonD · Oct 17th, 2002, 01:31 PM

Quaiffe already has one available with, i think, a choice of 3 final ratios

Davbret · Oct 17th, 2002, 02:40 PM

www.mini-madness.com is hawking a Quaife for $1095- USD. Not a bad price at all!!! Check it out!

R

CSDan · Oct 17th, 2002, 04:28 PM

WOooooooooooHooooooooooooooooo

Now I just have to save.

Daniel

harts · Oct 17th, 2002, 06:17 PM

i think you can get the quaife straight from them for $999,, now the real problem is getting it in the car,, looks like you will need to drop the engine down in order to get the transaxel off of it,, then you need to split the transaxel to get the quaife in where it needs to be, no small task or cheap one, if some one knows a good place to get all of this done in the midwest please post it,, cheers

dpayne1 · Oct 17th, 2002, 10:30 PM

I have also been checking out the LSD from Quaife. It appears that the labor for this install would be in the $1100 to $1500 range - unless of course you get it done for trade or "Know a guy" however, I can't imagine letting just anyone attempt this.

I think the result would be great as the S has a lot of wheel spin under hard cornering.

Laing · Oct 18th, 2002, 04:58 PM

Doesn't the MCS use the same Getrag 6-speed as the Nissan Sentra SER Spec V? It has a limited slip from the factory. I think the Focus SVT uses the same tranny also.

flyboy2160 · Oct 18th, 2002, 11:31 PM

my inquiry to torsen:

do you have any plans to offer a torsen for the mini cooper s?

their reply:

We have had several requests, however there are currently no design plans for the near future!

CSDan · Oct 21st, 2002, 04:25 PM

At the moment--It is going ot be hard to save that kinda money--LSD+Labor=over 1500 bux--OUCH.

So I was looking for alternatives and came across a company called Phantom Grip. They have a write up in Sport Compact Car. They are using it on the Project 200 SX. I am not a technical guy when it comes to diffs, but I got this from someone who did an install

"The Phantom Grip itself is a couple of machined blocks with a hold for the differential pin and four springs the will press the blocks against the spider gears. This pressure will cause both tires to spin but in a corner they can turn like normal."

Now I dont know if they are making it for our COopers, they have one for the old school ones, and I have no idea really about any long-term reliability(doing more research) but some of the things I have read are positive and some are negative----Ill keep you all posted.

Daniel

Oct 16th, 2002, 08:50 AM	#1
onrails MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Local Time: 07:41 AM Posts: 19 Offline	Limited Slip Differential on MCS? Has anyone looked into putting a limited slip diff into an MCS yet? I take delivery next month and am curious to see how much of a difference it makes. I've been lucky enough to drive someone else's around a track and putting the power down coming out of a corner wasn't as good as I had hoped...inside front wheel is starting to spin a little and it's not as smooth on acceleration as it should be because of that.

Oct 16th, 2002, 09:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
Simon Jackson MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 450 Offline	LSD We are working on it at the moment, we have them done for the Cooper, the S one shouldn't be too much longer, I will post when I have more details

Oct 16th, 2002, 09:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 09:41 PM Posts: 470 Offline	Re: LSD Quote: Originally posted by Simon Jackson We are working on it at the moment, we have them done for the Cooper, the S one shouldn't be too much longer, I will post when I have more details Simon, are you going to alter the final ratio? Please say you are as most of us here are not happy with the long gearing. It's your chance to change this. Also, any idea how much it would be (in AUstralia)?

Oct 16th, 2002, 10:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Simon Jackson MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 450 Offline	Ratio Thats the idea, we have succeeded on doing it on the Cooper offering 3 different ratio's, the same will hopefully be said for the S. We are also working on a Close Ratio S/C gear kit, but normal engagement, not Dog. I will post more about these products in the next couple of days.

Oct 16th, 2002, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 07:41 AM Posts: 5,359 Offline	Check out MINIMania at this link. They have a lsd for the MCS at $1,695.00. Might be able to get some feed back from them. Check out the close ratio gear kit for the Cooper too. Interesting. http://new.minimania.com/NewMiniMechanical.cfm Missing my buddies Dan and Ed but glad I have two angel buddies, And on a quest to Right Secco's Wrongs

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Oct 16th, 2002, 11:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
minicoopersgirl Loves MINI2 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne, FL Local Time: 07:41 AM Posts: 856 Offline	I am most definitely getting a LSD!! With that, the car will handle much nicer on the track. I will be saving up for a LSD after I get my wheels

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paulmon MINI2 Senior Derelict Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mississauga(Toronto) Local Time: 07:41 AM Posts: 789 Offline	How big of a job is it to install something like this. Obviously not for the do it yourselfer, how long would it take for a pro to install this? $1695 isn't cheap and to add installation ontop of that. Paul Southern Ontario MINI Club

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swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 09:41 PM Posts: 5,542 Offline	ASC+T, DSC III Will it affect the operation of the traction control or DSC?? Clubman less....

Oct 17th, 2002, 04:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Simon Jackson MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 450 Offline	Mini Mania Cape Cod, Mini Mania is an affiliate company of ours in the US, we will actually be supplying them product.

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GordonD MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mississauga, Ont, Ca Local Time: 07:41 AM Posts: 781 Offline	Quaiffe already has one available with, i think, a choice of 3 final ratios

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Davbret MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland OR Local Time: 03:41 AM Posts: 115 Offline	www.mini-madness.com is hawking a Quaife for $1095- USD. Not a bad price at all!!! Check it out! R Dark Silver/Black MCS Premium and Cold Packages Space Cloth Homepage and Stereo Mods

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CSDan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Katonah NY, USA Local Time: 06:41 AM Posts: 227 Offline	WOooooooooooHooooooooooooooooo Now I just have to save. Daniel Cooper S: Now new and improved with Helix short shifter, Ghetto K&N HAI, Rota Circuit 8's w/ T1'S Proxies/Kosei K1 racing wheels with Falken Azenis(for Auto-X/Trackday), and H-sport springs. UUC rear sway waiting to install

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harts MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 11:41 AM Posts: 10 Offline	limited slip i think you can get the quaife straight from them for $999,, now the real problem is getting it in the car,, looks like you will need to drop the engine down in order to get the transaxel off of it,, then you need to split the transaxel to get the quaife in where it needs to be, no small task or cheap one, if some one knows a good place to get all of this done in the midwest please post it,, cheers

Oct 17th, 2002, 10:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
dpayne1 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern VA Local Time: 06:41 AM Posts: 86 Offline	More on Limited Slip I have also been checking out the LSD from Quaife. It appears that the labor for this install would be in the $1100 to $1500 range - unless of course you get it done for trade or "Know a guy" however, I can't imagine letting just anyone attempt this. I think the result would be great as the S has a lot of wheel spin under hard cornering.

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Laing MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tallahassee Local Time: 06:41 AM Posts: 11 Offline	Doesn't the MCS use the same Getrag 6-speed as the Nissan Sentra SER Spec V? It has a limited slip from the factory. I think the Focus SVT uses the same tranny also. Cooper S Chili Red W/White 16x7 BBS RX Borla Exhaust

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flyboy2160 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: south bay, southern Local Time: 03:41 AM Posts: 183 Offline	nothing from torsen my inquiry to torsen: do you have any plans to offer a torsen for the mini cooper s? their reply: We have had several requests, however there are currently no design plans for the near future!

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CSDan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Katonah NY, USA Local Time: 06:41 AM Posts: 227 Offline	At the moment--It is going ot be hard to save that kinda money--LSD+Labor=over 1500 bux--OUCH. So I was looking for alternatives and came across a company called Phantom Grip. They have a write up in Sport Compact Car. They are using it on the Project 200 SX. I am not a technical guy when it comes to diffs, but I got this from someone who did an install "The Phantom Grip itself is a couple of machined blocks with a hold for the differential pin and four springs the will press the blocks against the spider gears. This pressure will cause both tires to spin but in a corner they can turn like normal." Now I dont know if they are making it for our COopers, they have one for the old school ones, and I have no idea really about any long-term reliability(doing more research) but some of the things I have read are positive and some are negative----Ill keep you all posted. Daniel Cooper S: Now new and improved with Helix short shifter, Ghetto K&N HAI, Rota Circuit 8's w/ T1'S Proxies/Kosei K1 racing wheels with Falken Azenis(for Auto-X/Trackday), and H-sport springs. UUC rear sway waiting to install

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