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podger · Oct 25th, 2002, 07:35 AM

I went to Motorshow 2002 on Wednesday at the NEC in Birmingham, great show, saw the new Super Rover, new Bentley etc etc .......then got into my real world.

Superchips had a stand the show,and knowing that they were developing a chip for the Cooper S , I asked one of the Teckies on their stand as to progress......

Bad News as far as I'm concerned though, in that development has proceeded, but they are apparently doing no more on their own , as the best they have got on a straight chip change was 6/10 bhp for Circa £300 , and therefore not really cost effective .....they are continueing to work with Grahame Goode Racing on development , but this will require quote " a change in mechanical parts" ...which is not a route I'd like to take, as it's traceable , and would invalidate my warranty.

I wonder if anyone will build a chip , at reasonable cost,for the MCS or is it a pipe dream??

drkslvrMCS · Oct 26th, 2002, 02:20 AM

Most companies will make a custom chip. I got a hold of a company called ERT(euro. racing tech.)they are involved with dupont racing. Mostly Beemer stuff. But they are making a chip for the MCS.ERT CHIP Here is the link. check them out.

Silver "S" · Oct 26th, 2002, 03:48 PM

check out www.mini-madness.com they have an ECU upgrade which I have instaled on my vehicle!!!

drkslvrMCS · Oct 26th, 2002, 06:26 PM

Yea but it is $749.00. I don't understand why they charge so much just to tune your computer. I mean I would love to have that chip i heard the performance gains were great but, I bet there will be a lot more companies developing chips and other performance stuff for a lot cheaper in the next year or so. I had a 98 M3 and the chip from DINAN was $350.00 I thought that was expensive. All I did was drive up to the dealer and they took there little computer hooked it up to the OBD connector and in the matter of a minute it was done and I had a $350.00 bill.

Grinder · Oct 26th, 2002, 06:31 PM

I'm with ya...seems super expensive, but i haven't even heard that the gains are that great. Decent maybe, but i've heard varied reports.... Too much $$$ for an unproven product. In fact, too much $$$ even for a proven product!!

minime s · Oct 30th, 2002, 08:08 PM

Mini-Madness needs to come to the reality that there prices are way too high......I got smoked on a set of wheels and tires from them and learned my lesson......Other company's will offer ECU upgrades and be reasonable...

cleverzippy · Oct 31st, 2002, 09:13 AM

Ok, for anyone interested, I spoke to Graham Goode this morning and they have just finished road testing their conversion which is different pulley and remapped ecu, plus a few other tweeks. Standard exhaust and air box is retained. They are claiming just over 200hp for £1000 + VAT. Sound like a good deal to me. Dyno results and info should be on their website in the next few days. Alistair is the man to contact.

www.grahamgoode.com

jlm · Oct 31st, 2002, 11:24 AM

can you find out what is involved to replace the pulley?

cleverzippy · Oct 31st, 2002, 11:25 AM

I'll have a go.

Silver "S" · Oct 31st, 2002, 12:37 PM

Sounds to good to be true

If it is true then more power to them. Anyway for those who got "SMOKED" you should take your gripes to the source and try to resolve and if no resolve is done then go for it. The price might be a steep high but if you want POWER then you have to compromise, i dont see anyone griping at Minimania prices so why try to break the next fellow, it does not make

cleverzippy · Oct 31st, 2002, 12:47 PM

Why does that sound too good to be true? GGR have an excellent reputation for Cosworth tuning etc. A 35 hp increase is easily obtainable with an increase in boost, hence the pully ratio change. Look at chipping a turbo. An increase from 0.8 bar to 1.2 bar gives you an extra 35 hp straight out of the box - no other mods required.

minime s · Oct 31st, 2002, 03:17 PM

That is why they call this a FORUM. So we can express our opinions.......

suprchrgdmini · Oct 31st, 2002, 04:37 PM

the problem is the guys who are making the stuff for the mini are bmw tuners. they need to realize the mini is a $20k car not a bmw. Eventually the regular companies will come out with stuff for the car. The sad thing is i bought the borla exhaust for the mini, any onther car borla is the most expensive thing out there, on the mini it is the cheapest.If the price was reasonable they would sell alot more.Im in the business and would rather sell more for cheaper than a few expensive .Thatsmy story and im stickin to it.

Silver "S" · Oct 31st, 2002, 05:49 PM

Hey mi friends, let me put out a SCENARIO I am Joe Buyer and you guys are Jim Salesman. I buy a set of articles from you and I break it or bend it due to my carelesness, I ask for you help and you try to help but, the company you purchased the items from tell me that they cannot send you the item for replacemnet due to inventory issues and it would cost more than usual if so. Then me being upset I proceed to bring you and your company down because Im mad at you. Does this make sense!!

hey this is actual true story and its one of the members here in MINI2.com, by the way it aint me

minime s · Oct 31st, 2002, 06:29 PM

Who helped me after I overpayed by about 600.00 for wheels and tires ???

minime s · Oct 31st, 2002, 06:30 PM

Buy from BMP......their prices are great......

podger · Nov 4th, 2002, 10:26 AM

Below was received from Graham Goode Racing

200 BHP MINI COOPER S
GGR have now developed a conversion for the COOPER S raising the power from 161BHP in standard form to just over 200 BHP!
Maximum torque has also been increased by over 35 LB/FT and more significantly, this is produced 500 RPM lower in the power band at 3565RPM.
The conversion consists of a reprogrammed engine management system and modification of the supercharger transmission ratio.
This conversion transforms the way the car performs, with improved throttle response and power throughout the rev range.

£999.00 + vat fully fitted

Superchips - Mini Cooper S (GGR)
Customer
Vehicle Type
Registration No.
Comments
Max Power
Max Torque
Superchips
Mini Cooper S (GGR)
Superchips
Superchip
202 BHP @ 6768 Rpm
187 lbft @ 3565 Rpm

Mini Cooper S
Superchips
Original
165 BHP @ 6510 Rpm
150 lbft @ 4081 Rpm
Superchips : 01280 816781

paujones · Nov 4th, 2002, 04:16 PM

The Superchip for the MCS is nearly done. They are providing the software for the GGR version. No news if that will be available in the US since the GGR price includes installation.

I will be providing Superchip software in Northern Ca. So I will keep you posted as soon as this is available. If you have a MC, the software is available now.

Turbo_Pumpkin · Nov 7th, 2002, 08:59 AM

Does anyone know if the GGR kit will be available in the US? What would it take to be provided here in the us? Reflashed ECU and provide the parts to customers??? Like APR or GIAC does for Audi and VW owners? To me it sounds like a good kit and I am not sure about the $ conversion, but it could be worth every penny. Thanx.

paujones · Nov 8th, 2002, 11:30 AM

Yes, the GGR kit will be available in the US. GGR is working out the details and instructions for the US market. More info will be coming in the next week or so, so stay tuned!

Superchips, who makes the software for the GGR kit, will also have new ECU software for the MCS. So, if you want the full power, you could do the GGR pulley upgrade and software, or just go with standard software for a bit less power.

As soon as I hear the news from Superchips I will post it to the board.

Thanks,

Paul

Oct 25th, 2002, 07:35 AM	#1
podger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: There , over there, Local Time: 09:17 PM Posts: 98 Offline	Chips for the Cooper S?? I went to Motorshow 2002 on Wednesday at the NEC in Birmingham, great show, saw the new Super Rover, new Bentley etc etc .......then got into my real world. Superchips had a stand the show,and knowing that they were developing a chip for the Cooper S , I asked one of the Teckies on their stand as to progress...... Bad News as far as I'm concerned though, in that development has proceeded, but they are apparently doing no more on their own , as the best they have got on a straight chip change was 6/10 bhp for Circa £300 , and therefore not really cost effective .....they are continueing to work with Grahame Goode Racing on development , but this will require quote " a change in mechanical parts" ...which is not a route I'd like to take, as it's traceable , and would invalidate my warranty. I wonder if anyone will build a chip , at reasonable cost,for the MCS or is it a pipe dream??

Oct 26th, 2002, 02:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
drkslvrMCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pompano Beach Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 35 Offline	Most companies will make a custom chip. I got a hold of a company called ERT(euro. racing tech.)they are involved with dupont racing. Mostly Beemer stuff. But they are making a chip for the MCS.ERT CHIP Here is the link. check them out. 02 mini cooper S 99 Black "SVT" Cobra 98 F-250

Oct 26th, 2002, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
drkslvrMCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pompano Beach Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 35 Offline	Yea but it is $749.00. I don't understand why they charge so much just to tune your computer. I mean I would love to have that chip i heard the performance gains were great but, I bet there will be a lot more companies developing chips and other performance stuff for a lot cheaper in the next year or so. I had a 98 M3 and the chip from DINAN was $350.00 I thought that was expensive. All I did was drive up to the dealer and they took there little computer hooked it up to the OBD connector and in the matter of a minute it was done and I had a $350.00 bill. 02 mini cooper S 99 Black "SVT" Cobra 98 F-250

Oct 26th, 2002, 06:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Grinder Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Northern VA. Local Time: 04:17 PM Posts: 1,118 Offline	I'm with ya...seems super expensive, but i haven't even heard that the gains are that great. Decent maybe, but i've heard varied reports.... Too much $$$ for an unproven product. In fact, too much $$$ even for a proven product!! Whatever.

Oct 30th, 2002, 08:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 631 Offline	Mini-Madness needs to come to the reality that there prices are way too high......I got smoked on a set of wheels and tires from them and learned my lesson......Other company's will offer ECU upgrades and be reasonable... 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

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Oct 26th, 2002, 03:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Silver "S" MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 79 Offline	check out www.mini-madness.com they have an ECU upgrade which I have instaled on my vehicle!!!

Oct 31st, 2002, 09:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
cleverzippy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kettering, Northants Local Time: 10:17 PM Posts: 178 Offline	Ok, for anyone interested, I spoke to Graham Goode this morning and they have just finished road testing their conversion which is different pulley and remapped ecu, plus a few other tweeks. Standard exhaust and air box is retained. They are claiming just over 200hp for £1000 + VAT. Sound like a good deal to me. Dyno results and info should be on their website in the next few days. Alistair is the man to contact. www.grahamgoode.com

Oct 31st, 2002, 11:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
jlm MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ny,ny Local Time: 04:17 PM Posts: 1,072 Offline	can you find out what is involved to replace the pulley? john

Oct 31st, 2002, 11:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
cleverzippy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kettering, Northants Local Time: 10:17 PM Posts: 178 Offline	I'll have a go.

Oct 31st, 2002, 12:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Silver "S" MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 79 Offline	Sounds to good to be true If it is true then more power to them. Anyway for those who got "SMOKED" you should take your gripes to the source and try to resolve and if no resolve is done then go for it. The price might be a steep high but if you want POWER then you have to compromise, i dont see anyone griping at Minimania prices so why try to break the next fellow, it does not make

Oct 31st, 2002, 12:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
cleverzippy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kettering, Northants Local Time: 10:17 PM Posts: 178 Offline	Why does that sound too good to be true? GGR have an excellent reputation for Cosworth tuning etc. A 35 hp increase is easily obtainable with an increase in boost, hence the pully ratio change. Look at chipping a turbo. An increase from 0.8 bar to 1.2 bar gives you an extra 35 hp straight out of the box - no other mods required.

Oct 31st, 2002, 03:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 631 Offline	That is why they call this a FORUM. So we can express our opinions....... 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

Oct 31st, 2002, 04:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
suprchrgdmini BOLT ON MASTER Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island NY Local Time: 04:17 PM Posts: 516 Offline	the problem is the guys who are making the stuff for the mini are bmw tuners. they need to realize the mini is a $20k car not a bmw. Eventually the regular companies will come out with stuff for the car. The sad thing is i bought the borla exhaust for the mini, any onther car borla is the most expensive thing out there, on the mini it is the cheapest.If the price was reasonable they would sell alot more.Im in the business and would rather sell more for cheaper than a few expensive .Thatsmy story and im stickin to it.

Oct 31st, 2002, 05:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Silver "S" MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 79 Offline	Hey mi friends, let me put out a SCENARIO I am Joe Buyer and you guys are Jim Salesman. I buy a set of articles from you and I break it or bend it due to my carelesness, I ask for you help and you try to help but, the company you purchased the items from tell me that they cannot send you the item for replacemnet due to inventory issues and it would cost more than usual if so. Then me being upset I proceed to bring you and your company down because Im mad at you. Does this make sense!! hey this is actual true story and its one of the members here in MINI2.com, by the way it aint me

Oct 31st, 2002, 06:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 631 Offline	Who helped me after I overpayed by about 600.00 for wheels and tires ??? 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

Oct 31st, 2002, 06:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
minime s M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 631 Offline	Buy from BMP......their prices are great...... 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a

Nov 4th, 2002, 10:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
podger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: There , over there, Local Time: 09:17 PM Posts: 98 Offline	Below was received from Graham Goode Racing 200 BHP MINI COOPER S GGR have now developed a conversion for the COOPER S raising the power from 161BHP in standard form to just over 200 BHP! Maximum torque has also been increased by over 35 LB/FT and more significantly, this is produced 500 RPM lower in the power band at 3565RPM. The conversion consists of a reprogrammed engine management system and modification of the supercharger transmission ratio. This conversion transforms the way the car performs, with improved throttle response and power throughout the rev range. £999.00 + vat fully fitted Superchips - Mini Cooper S (GGR) Customer Vehicle Type Registration No. Comments Max Power Max Torque Superchips Mini Cooper S (GGR) Superchips Superchip 202 BHP @ 6768 Rpm 187 lbft @ 3565 Rpm Mini Cooper S Superchips Original 165 BHP @ 6510 Rpm 150 lbft @ 4081 Rpm Superchips : 01280 816781 Cooper S,200Bhp+ Graham Goode Racing/Superchip Conversion, MagnaFlow Exhaust,British Racing Green,White Roof,Chilli Pack ,Gravity Full Leather, 17" S Spoke Alloys,Multi-Function Strg Wheel,Elec. Pan. Glass Roof,Heated Seats,Park Ctrl,Auto Air,SatNav,Radio Boost,Cd Changer,Bonnet Stripes by Action Graphics Ltd..... Other Toys:Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa FullRace 4.7 litre(TVR)375Bhp Morgan +8

Nov 4th, 2002, 04:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
paujones MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Livermore, Ca Local Time: 01:17 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Superchips for MCS coming soon The Superchip for the MCS is nearly done. They are providing the software for the GGR version. No news if that will be available in the US since the GGR price includes installation. I will be providing Superchip software in Northern Ca. So I will keep you posted as soon as this is available. If you have a MC, the software is available now. 02 MCS - All options 00 BMW M5

Nov 7th, 2002, 08:59 AM	#19 (permalink)
Turbo_Pumpkin MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Washington DC Local Time: 09:17 PM Posts: 6 Offline	Does anyone know if the GGR kit will be available in the US? What would it take to be provided here in the us? Reflashed ECU and provide the parts to customers??? Like APR or GIAC does for Audi and VW owners? To me it sounds like a good kit and I am not sure about the $ conversion, but it could be worth every penny. Thanx.

Nov 8th, 2002, 11:30 AM	#20 (permalink)
paujones MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Livermore, Ca Local Time: 01:17 PM Posts: 5 Offline	GGR kit in US Yes, the GGR kit will be available in the US. GGR is working out the details and instructions for the US market. More info will be coming in the next week or so, so stay tuned! Superchips, who makes the software for the GGR kit, will also have new ECU software for the MCS. So, if you want the full power, you could do the GGR pulley upgrade and software, or just go with standard software for a bit less power. As soon as I hear the news from Superchips I will post it to the board. Thanks, Paul 02 MCS - All options 00 BMW M5

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