[QQQ]

Alright, just received the fax from HAMANN. They're offering four tuning kits for the MCS (Sportkit CS 1 - 4). Details below.

HAMANN SPORTKIT CS 1
consists of
- optimized curve map
- modification of supercharger transmission ratio
- sport air filter

Power increase to approx. 143 kW/195 hp
Torque increase of approx. 41 Nm

Price € 1.245 (approx. £ 800/excl. VAT and fitting)

HAMANN SPORTKIT CS 2
consists of
SPORTKIT CS 1 plus
- sport rear muffler

Power increase to approx. 148 kW/201 hp
Torque increase of approx. 42 Nm

Price € 2.589 (approx. £ 1.650/excl. VAT and fitting)

HAMANN SPORTKIT CS 3
consists of
SPORTKIT CS 2 plus
- sport high performance header

Power increase to approx. 151 kW/206 hp
Torque increase of approx. 43 Nm

Price € 3.239 (approx. £ 2.075/excl. VAT and fitting)

HAMANN SPORTKIT CS 4
consists of
SPORTKIT CS 3 plus
- sport high performance header incl. sport center silencer with sport metal cat

Power increase to approx. 155 kW/208 hp
Torque increase of approx. 45 Nm

Price € 4.647 (approx. £ 2.980/excl. VAT and fitting)

[AidenL]

Kit No 1 seems very good value for money !

[Ivar1]

Hoi QQQ I believe that we spoke each other in the demo Cooper S at MINI Rotterdam, as I just to be a sales man over there and I am glad to here that the change of colour packed out good (from red to dark sliver) As for the tuning check out the Digi-tec site that is also good value for money (www.digi-tec.de) or www.maxi-tuner.de. hope to hear from you some time.

Greatings Ivar Scheepers
(now Ford Rotterdam)

[QQQ]

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Originally posted by Ivar1
Hoi QQQ I believe that we spoke each other in the demo Cooper S at MINI Rotterdam, as I just to be a sales man over there and I am glad to here that the change of colour packed out good (from red to dark sliver) As for the tuning check out the Digi-tec site that is also good value for money (www.digi-tec.de) or www.maxi-tuner.de. hope to hear from you some time.

Greatings Ivar Scheepers
(now Ford Rotterdam)

Hi Ivar,

Yeah, you were the second sales person I had to deal with. In total I had three different sales persons. MCS is just fine, love the colourcombo. Just feel that the engine could use a bit more grunt, especially in the low/middle revs. I know the tuners you linked, thanks. I also contacted Hartge, they offer a 200 hp kit for euro 1.250 (excl. VAT). Gonna think really hard now which one to pick.

Moved from BMW to Ford then? Already had a chance to drive the Focus RS Turbo?

[uae mini]

been waiting for hamann to get there kit out but i have to wait for the MCS to arrive in feb.

[AidenL]

Are they doing standard Cooper kits? What outputs / prices , any ideas anyone ?

[tc]

I know very little about engines but im gunna ask anyway.

would the boost pressure increase not put too much strain on the engine without any engine modifications?

does anyone know if Hamann provide any kind of warranty with this upgrade?

Regards,

TC.

[Ivar1]

To QQQ
no didn't drive it because it haven't arrived yet!
Have driven the st170 and after Cooper s it was a bit disapointing aspecially the handling.

PS ik wist niet dat je je laese auto ook mocht tunen?

Greats Ivar

[plaztik]

Are these kits available now? Can we order them for a US dealer to install?

Thanks,

plaztik

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Originally posted by plaztik
Are these kits available now? Can we order them for a US dealer to install?

Thanks,

plaztik

Hi Plaztik,

Received some documentation from Hamann today, including an export pricing list. The kits are available within 1 or 2 weeks. The official Hamann price list was a bit different than the one I received from the Benelux distributor. The CS 1 - 4 kits cost respectively euro 1,150; 2,390; 2,990 and 4,290 (1 euro = approx. 0.98 US$). Better get the stuff directly from Hamann. The US distributor of Hamann is:

WHEEL POWER INC.
16401 Gothard Street
Huntington Beach, CA 92647

Phone: +1 (0) 714 - 375 96 66
Fax: +1 (0) 714 - 375 77 90

Website: http://www.wheelpower.com


Sorry to hear that the Hartge kit will not be available in the US. If the only reason for that is that you can't get (at least) 95 octane petrol, I would think the same goes for the Hamann kit (all tuning kits have in principle the same modifications, consisting of a remap, change of supercharger transmission and sportsfilter). BTW is it really true that you can get maximal 93 octane in the states?

I had a phone call with Hartge last Thursday. Their tuned MCS gave 215 HP on the dyno. They will also introduce a exhaust system by spring next year. I'm still doubting between Hamann and Hartge, the prices are the same and both tuners have a good reputation.

Good luck

[plaztik]

Well, now I am scared about looking at conversion kits at all, if 93 octane won't cut it with any of them.

I have only ONCE (ever in my life) seen gas offered higher than 93. I noticed a station in Tucson, Arizona with 100 octane gas. They only had it at one pump, and that is the only place I have ever seen it. So, I wouldn't bet on regularly finding anything higher than 93 (which is pretty standard for what we call Super Unleaded).

Does anyone else have any insight to this?

[Keith]

Just like everything else, US and European octane formulae are different. 93 octane here is equivalent to a higher octane in Europe. Anyone know how much higher?

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Originally posted by Keith
Just like everything else, US and European octane formulae are different. 93 octane here is equivalent to a higher octane in Europe. Anyone know how much higher?

95 octane (RON) in Europe is 91 octane (PON) in the US, see here for a conversion table. I'm sure 93 (PON)octane will do just fine.

[erichui]

will they offer the kit in austarlia??? DD

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Originally posted by erichui
will they offer the kit in austarlia??? DD

You could try with these guys:

Exclusive Hamann Importer Australia

Motorsport Styling P / L
Suite No. 24, 86 Grimshaw Street
Greensborough, VIC 3088

Phone: +61 (0) 500 883 882
Fax : +61 (0) 500 850 888

E-mail: info@motorsport-styling.com
Website: http://www.motorsport-styling.com

[uae mini]

how come hamann and hartge dont have any of these kits on their site?
has any one got any1 of these kits installed?

[Mini S]

In the Northeast, Sunoco has 93 and 94 octane at every station. Here in Iowa, its tough to fine 92 let alone 93 octane. There is one station down the street from my house that carries 100 oct unleaded (Sunoco Racing Fuel) for about $3.50/gal. They also have 110 oct low-lead, but probably wouldnt be a good idea to stick in a new engine.

Those Hamann kits look quite good and relatively affordable, especially when compared with the JCW kit. $3k for a little over 200HP isnt terribly bad. One thing that does suck is that the new racing Neon is same price as an MCS but does 0-60 in 5.4 and comes with a lot more HP.

Mini S