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macncheese · Nov 11th, 2002, 10:06 AM

Reduces air inlet charge temperature on turbo applications for increasses up to 50 horsdpower.

For supercharged or turbo applications where nitrous is not an option, NX offers another alternative, the "N-tercooler." Using either nitrous or carbon dioxide, this unit can reduce air inlet temperatures dramatically. In a recent dyno test, a turbocharged Honda equipped with an NX "N-tercooler" increased its baseline by an astounding 52 horsepower! If it makes horsepower, it must be Nitrous Express!

http://www.overboost.com/obs/product.asp?pid=20279

thepilo · Nov 11th, 2002, 03:24 PM

What exactly does this do???

I see that it lowers intake temps, but how does it accomplish this?

macncheese · Nov 11th, 2002, 03:59 PM

that big rectangular piece of tubing mounts in front of the intercooler and it sprays nitrous on the intercooler.

--
Cheese

thepilo · Nov 11th, 2002, 08:36 PM

That is what I though.. and actually what I was thinking would be a good idea, glad to see it as a reality.. I would love to see how this would Dyno on a mini, as I do not have mine yet, and will be waiting for another 2 months for it..

Need it soon

dukesantos · Nov 11th, 2002, 10:06 PM

I think you can get similiar cooling with water injection and its probably less costly in the long run. I saw their water injection on a MINI and an MR2 but I don't have exact performance numbers. It has an adjustable controller you can mount near the dash if you want to optimize the flow while driving.

More info, Aquamist www.aquamist.co.uk

ezrally · Nov 11th, 2002, 10:35 PM

Overboost also has a larger intercooler for the S.

macncheese · Nov 12th, 2002, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ezrally
Overboost also has a larger intercooler for the S.

I couldnt find it. Can you provide a link?

ezrally · Nov 12th, 2002, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by macncheese

I couldnt find it. Can you provide a link?

Now I can't find it either on the site. Saw it on Rdfly w a direct link, it was just slightly larger w little info...

thepilo · Nov 12th, 2002, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thepilo
That is what I though.. and actually what I was thinking would be a good idea, glad to see it as a reality.. I would love to see how this would Dyno on a mini, as I do not have mine yet, and will be waiting for another 2 months for it.. Need it soon

I think that there would be a big difference in spraying some water on the intercooler (not that it won't help. I think that it would help a bit) and Spraying sub zero degree Nitrous all over it..

But both are a good idea, just think that the nitrous will be better, and yes, also more costy, but I would think that it would be used only for track events..

thepilo · Nov 12th, 2002, 11:14 AM

oh, and I have 2 months wait left also.. I know the feeling

thepilo · Nov 12th, 2002, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dukesantos
I think you can get similiar cooling with water injection and its probably less costly in the long run. I saw their water injection on a MINI and an MR2 but I don't have exact performance numbers. It has an adjustable controller you can mount near the dash if you want to optimize the flow while driving.

More info, Aquamist www.aquamist.co.uk

http://www.overboost.com/picture.asp...i=P1012589.JPG

macncheese · Nov 12th, 2002, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ezrally

Now I can't find it either on the site. Saw it on Rdfly w a direct link, it was just slightly larger w little info...

That was the stock intercooler with the splitter removed.

Sausagefingers · Nov 12th, 2002, 03:05 PM

What kind of additional ware and tear would this put on the engine?

macncheese · Nov 12th, 2002, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sausagefingers
What kind of additional ware and tear would this put on the engine?

None. All it does is make your intercooler think its wintertime under WOT.

Sausagefingers · Nov 12th, 2002, 04:17 PM

Well its wintertime right now, and my car is hardly getting an additional 50 horses. Hmmmm, have to wonder about this one.

ElectronMan · Nov 12th, 2002, 04:40 PM

You could aslo go with a water intercooler spray system (not the same as Aguamist which sprays water into the airflow). You wont get the same frigid temps that the nitrous will produce but a water/alcohol mixture does work well. I've also seen setups simalar to the Aquamist, which uses propane. Propane has been used on diesel engines for a long time. Propane has a similar effect as nitrous. On forced induction setups I've seen it used to only cool the air in the charge pipes.

macncheese · Nov 12th, 2002, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElectronMan
You could aslo go with a water intercooler spray system (not the same as Aguamist which sprays water into the airflow). You wont get the same frigid temps that the nitrous will produce but a water/alcohol mixture does work well. I've also seen setups simalar to the Aquamist, which uses propane. Propane has been used on diesel engines for a long time. Propane has a similar effect as nitrous. On forced induction setups I've seen it used to only cool the air in the charge pipes.

Propane is flammable. I wouldnt recommend this to anyone.

--
Cheese

ElectronMan · Nov 12th, 2002, 05:10 PM

Yeah so is brake and some transmission fluids. But when properly used and stored it can be used safely. BTW, just because nitrous is non-flammble does not mean that its harmless and has no potential dangers.

macncheese · Nov 12th, 2002, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sausagefingers
Well its wintertime right now, and my car is hardly getting an additional 50 horses. Hmmmm, have to wonder about this one.

I notice a dramatic difference between summer and winter driving. I can measure intake temp with my scan tool and there is a HUGE discrepency between IAT sitting at a light and IAT while cruising or at WOT.

Its claimed that engine efficiency is increased by 1% for every 10° temp decrease. Nitrous cools the intake charge 60°-80° in a typical nitrous setup (which this is not).

--
Cheese

macncheese · Nov 12th, 2002, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElectronMan
Yeah so is brake and some transmission fluids. But when properly used and stored it can be used safely. BTW, just because nitrous is non-flammble does not mean that its harmless and has no potential dangers.

Dude,
You just said to spray propane on your intercooler. THATS NOT PROPERLY USED. FWIW, dont spray brake or transmission fluid on the intercooler either.

If this was my forum I'd be removing these posts before somone gets hurt.

Nov 11th, 2002, 10:06 AM	#1
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	NX N-tercooler Reduces air inlet charge temperature on turbo applications for increasses up to 50 horsdpower. For supercharged or turbo applications where nitrous is not an option, NX offers another alternative, the "N-tercooler." Using either nitrous or carbon dioxide, this unit can reduce air inlet temperatures dramatically. In a recent dyno test, a turbocharged Honda equipped with an NX "N-tercooler" increased its baseline by an astounding 52 horsepower! If it makes horsepower, it must be Nitrous Express! http://www.overboost.com/obs/product.asp?pid=20279

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dukesantos Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Viva Las Vegas Local Time: 12:10 AM Posts: 742 Offline	I think you can get similiar cooling with water injection and its probably less costly in the long run. I saw their water injection on a MINI and an MR2 but I don't have exact performance numbers. It has an adjustable controller you can mount near the dash if you want to optimize the flow while driving. More info, Aquamist www.aquamist.co.uk Attached Thumbnails

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ezrally MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Delavan, WI Local Time: 01:10 AM Posts: 663 Offline	Overboost also has a larger intercooler for the S. Jet Black MCS Lapis leather 17s or 15s (winter) no DSC

Nov 12th, 2002, 10:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
ezrally MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Delavan, WI Local Time: 01:10 AM Posts: 663 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by macncheese I couldnt find it. Can you provide a link? Now I can't find it either on the site. Saw it on Rdfly w a direct link, it was just slightly larger w little info... Jet Black MCS Lapis leather 17s or 15s (winter) no DSC

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Sausagefingers MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Provo, Utah Local Time: 12:10 AM Posts: 232 Offline	What kind of additional ware and tear would this put on the engine? The waits over!! Frosted the Mini Cooper S arrived 11/05/02!!!

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Nov 11th, 2002, 03:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
thepilo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Local Time: 07:10 AM Posts: 288 Offline	What exactly does this do??? I see that it lowers intake temps, but how does it accomplish this?

Nov 11th, 2002, 03:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	that big rectangular piece of tubing mounts in front of the intercooler and it sprays nitrous on the intercooler. -- Cheese

Nov 11th, 2002, 08:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
thepilo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Local Time: 07:10 AM Posts: 288 Offline	That is what I though.. and actually what I was thinking would be a good idea, glad to see it as a reality.. I would love to see how this would Dyno on a mini, as I do not have mine yet, and will be waiting for another 2 months for it.. Need it soon

Nov 12th, 2002, 08:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by ezrally Overboost also has a larger intercooler for the S. I couldnt find it. Can you provide a link?

Nov 12th, 2002, 11:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
thepilo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Local Time: 07:10 AM Posts: 288 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by thepilo That is what I though.. and actually what I was thinking would be a good idea, glad to see it as a reality.. I would love to see how this would Dyno on a mini, as I do not have mine yet, and will be waiting for another 2 months for it.. Need it soon I think that there would be a big difference in spraying some water on the intercooler (not that it won't help. I think that it would help a bit) and Spraying sub zero degree Nitrous all over it.. But both are a good idea, just think that the nitrous will be better, and yes, also more costy, but I would think that it would be used only for track events..

Nov 12th, 2002, 11:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
thepilo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Local Time: 07:10 AM Posts: 288 Offline	oh, and I have 2 months wait left also.. I know the feeling

Nov 12th, 2002, 11:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
thepilo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Local Time: 07:10 AM Posts: 288 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by dukesantos I think you can get similiar cooling with water injection and its probably less costly in the long run. I saw their water injection on a MINI and an MR2 but I don't have exact performance numbers. It has an adjustable controller you can mount near the dash if you want to optimize the flow while driving. More info, Aquamist www.aquamist.co.uk http://www.overboost.com/picture.asp...i=P1012589.JPG

Nov 12th, 2002, 01:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by ezrally Now I can't find it either on the site. Saw it on Rdfly w a direct link, it was just slightly larger w little info... That was the stock intercooler with the splitter removed.

Nov 12th, 2002, 03:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Sausagefingers What kind of additional ware and tear would this put on the engine? None. All it does is make your intercooler think its wintertime under WOT.

Nov 12th, 2002, 04:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Sausagefingers MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Provo, Utah Local Time: 12:10 AM Posts: 232 Offline	Well its wintertime right now, and my car is hardly getting an additional 50 horses. Hmmmm, have to wonder about this one. The waits over!! Frosted the Mini Cooper S arrived 11/05/02!!!

Nov 12th, 2002, 04:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
ElectronMan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Local Time: 07:10 AM Posts: 30 Offline	You could aslo go with a water intercooler spray system (not the same as Aguamist which sprays water into the airflow). You wont get the same frigid temps that the nitrous will produce but a water/alcohol mixture does work well. I've also seen setups simalar to the Aquamist, which uses propane. Propane has been used on diesel engines for a long time. Propane has a similar effect as nitrous. On forced induction setups I've seen it used to only cool the air in the charge pipes. MCS IB/IB, SPRT, PREM, Aero kit, RE90s

Nov 12th, 2002, 05:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by ElectronMan You could aslo go with a water intercooler spray system (not the same as Aguamist which sprays water into the airflow). You wont get the same frigid temps that the nitrous will produce but a water/alcohol mixture does work well. I've also seen setups simalar to the Aquamist, which uses propane. Propane has been used on diesel engines for a long time. Propane has a similar effect as nitrous. On forced induction setups I've seen it used to only cool the air in the charge pipes. Propane is flammable. I wouldnt recommend this to anyone. -- Cheese

Nov 12th, 2002, 05:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
ElectronMan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Local Time: 07:10 AM Posts: 30 Offline	Yeah so is brake and some transmission fluids. But when properly used and stored it can be used safely. BTW, just because nitrous is non-flammble does not mean that its harmless and has no potential dangers.

Nov 12th, 2002, 05:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Sausagefingers Well its wintertime right now, and my car is hardly getting an additional 50 horses. Hmmmm, have to wonder about this one. I notice a dramatic difference between summer and winter driving. I can measure intake temp with my scan tool and there is a HUGE discrepency between IAT sitting at a light and IAT while cruising or at WOT. Its claimed that engine efficiency is increased by 1% for every 10° temp decrease. Nitrous cools the intake charge 60°-80° in a typical nitrous setup (which this is not). -- Cheese

Nov 12th, 2002, 08:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
macncheese MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Local Time: 03:10 AM Posts: 1,224 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by ElectronMan Yeah so is brake and some transmission fluids. But when properly used and stored it can be used safely. BTW, just because nitrous is non-flammble does not mean that its harmless and has no potential dangers. Dude, You just said to spray propane on your intercooler. THATS NOT PROPERLY USED. FWIW, dont spray brake or transmission fluid on the intercooler either. If this was my forum I'd be removing these posts before somone gets hurt.

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