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HardTimes · Jan 16th, 2003, 05:25 PM

Well this is very nice, I look for some comfort and instead you're trying to flog your old gear to me!!

It does sound quite nice though to be honest, however I'm in a real dilemma now about possibly going for a Cherished low milage Cooper S (so it's all run in etc.) then getting the Hartge mod!

Oh no and to think I've only had my Cooper for 4 months or so...

...must be sensible...

Chris

Bonnie Scotland · Jan 16th, 2003, 05:34 PM

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HardTimes Said
Oh no and to think I've only had my Cooper for 4 months or so...

Funnily enough i only had my cooper for 4 months, but i was lucky, my dealer had all the bits i wanted on an S and more on a brand new car in the showroom, so i just did the bizzo there and then.
Now if only i could stop spending money on it i might be a wealthy man

alan fae bonnie scotland

HardTimes · Jan 17th, 2003, 12:54 AM

I'm terrible for changing cars but I finally found the Mini keeps me satified with looks and the way it handles... however it's now too slow for me and I've been looking at the JCW S and the Hartge!

A new breed of Mini and now I want to change...

In the last 18 months I've had the following;

Fiat Punto GT, BMW M3, Rav 4, New Corolla T-Sport, Nissan Skyline R33 GTS-T and now my Cooper!

As you can imagine it's stung me quite a bit changing all those... but I want to change again...

I can't help it and the Hartge sounds great!!

Where's my Psychiatrist?

Chris

WAY · Jan 17th, 2003, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhilClarke
it's ok chris. we're going to have a load of Cooper S exhausts left over from customers purchasing our 4-pipe silencer. It'll fit your car with a few mods, so you can pretend you've got a cooper s...

If anyone else fancies a nearly new standard Cooper S silecer assembly (BMW parts price is about £340+vat) then drop me an email and I'll start a list!

Phil, can you tell me if us decendents of criminals down under (although I am actually Chinese and am probably decendent of some opium dealer instead

) are able to get the Hartge conversion? Do you know if there is a distributor of Hargte product here in Australia? Thanks.

WAY · Jan 17th, 2003, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardTimes
I'm terrible for changing cars but I finally found the Mini keeps me satified with looks and the way it handles... however it's now too slow for me and I've been looking at the JCW S and the Hartge!

A new breed of Mini and now I want to change...

In the last 18 months I've had the following;

Fiat Punto GT, BMW M3, Rav 4, New Corolla T-Sport, Nissan Skyline R33 GTS-T and now my Cooper!

As you can imagine it's stung me quite a bit changing all those... but I want to change again...

I can't help it and the Hartge sounds great!!

Where's my Psychiatrist?

Chris

Hey, you sound exactly like me!!! Let's see, last 18 months...Audi A4, BMW 325ci, Audi TT Roadster and now the Cooper S. Again like you, I am also finding the S a little slow. Bring on the mods!!!

HardTimes · Jan 17th, 2003, 04:09 PM

It's terribly expensive to change all the time but what can you do...

we obviously demand too much from our cars!

How did you find the TT Roadster??

Chris

QQQ · Jan 17th, 2003, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WAY
Phil, can you tell me if us decendents of criminals down under (although I am actually Chinese and am probably decendent of some opium dealer instead ) are able to get the Hartge conversion? Do you know if there is a distributor of Hargte product here in Australia? Thanks.

WAY: Boo posted the following in the jcw kit dropped by BMW-thread

Just been talking to the boys at Peak Performance out at Parramatta, they will be selling the Hartge upgrades for the Cooper S soon. Apparently the are just waiting for the info packs to come out from Germany

Maybe you can contact him for more info

cleverzippy · Jan 17th, 2003, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WAY
Hey, you sound exactly like me!!! Let's see, last 18 months...Audi A4, BMW 325ci, Audi TT Roadster and now the Cooper S. Again like you, I am also finding the S a little slow. Bring on the mods!!!

Jeez, you people have far too much money to burn

HardTimes · Jan 18th, 2003, 12:57 AM

The scary thing is mate is that I dont have the money... it's just an illness!!

Chris

WAY · Jan 18th, 2003, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by QQQ
WAY: Boo posted the following in the jcw kit dropped by BMW-thread

Just been talking to the boys at Peak Performance out at Parramatta, they will be selling the Hartge upgrades for the Cooper S soon. Apparently the are just waiting for the info packs to come out from Germany

Maybe you can contact him for more info

Hey thanks for that QQQ!!! Haven't been following all the threads lately.

WAY · Jan 18th, 2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardTimes
It's terribly expensive to change all the time but what can you do...

we obviously demand too much from our cars!

How did you find the TT Roadster??

Chris

The TT Roadster is a great car, but understeers like a pig. I never got around to mod it to fix that problem, as I was finding that I didn't use the convertible top. To be honest with you, I am regretting that I didn't just go for the coupe. Would still have the car if I did. Quattro and 225bhp (which increases to 250 with chipping) is very desirable. Love the feeling when the Turbo comes on full steam.

HardTimes · Jan 18th, 2003, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WAY
I am regretting that I didn't just go for the coupe

It's sounds like the Quattro could be the next car on your list mate!

I have just been reading the article on the Hartge Cooper S and it does sound awesome.

I was wondering though has anyone had the problem they mention briefly on their converted car??

Apparently it was a weak engine bracket...

Chris

WAY · Jan 18th, 2003, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardTimes
It's sounds like the Quattro could be the next car on your list mate!

I have just been reading the article on the Hartge Cooper S and it does sound awesome.

I was wondering though has anyone had the problem they mention briefly on their converted car??

Apparently it was a weak engine bracket...

Chris

Hmm, can someone PLEASE scan the article or type out some key points (if not the whole article

) so that the rest of the world could read it too? I am so keen to read about this conversion. I really love the way the S handles, but it just need some more power. It will make my partner very happy if I do this conversion, as it is a much cheaper option than buying a new car again!!!

WAY · Jan 19th, 2003, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by obehave
It's on another thread here on this site.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/...=32822%3C/a%3E

Hey thanks so much for the article!!! I REALLY want to do this conversion now!!! Can someone tell me how would the Piper Cross cold air intake affect this conversion? I have been running the Piper X for awhile now, and as far as I can tell from that article, the intake has not been modified? Can someone who has done the mod tell me??? Thanks!

Bonnie Scotland · Jan 19th, 2003, 11:16 AM

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WAY Asked
Hey thanks so much for the article!!! I REALLY want to do this conversion now!!! Can someone tell me how would the Piper Cross cold air intake affect this conversion?

I don't think you would have any problem, i took mine off for the hartge conversion thinking that a mod was done there. No mods are made to the induction side at all, so with the stock filter you still get 212 BHP.

alan fae bonnie scotland

Jan 17th, 2003, 03:50 PM	#204 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 467 Offline	Re: don't cry Quote: Originally posted by PhilClarke it's ok chris. we're going to have a load of Cooper S exhausts left over from customers purchasing our 4-pipe silencer. It'll fit your car with a few mods, so you can pretend you've got a cooper s... If anyone else fancies a nearly new standard Cooper S silecer assembly (BMW parts price is about £340+vat) then drop me an email and I'll start a list! Phil, can you tell me if us decendents of criminals down under (although I am actually Chinese and am probably decendent of some opium dealer instead ) are able to get the Hartge conversion? Do you know if there is a distributor of Hargte product here in Australia? Thanks.

Jan 17th, 2003, 04:39 PM	#207 (permalink)
QQQ MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: rotterdam Local Time: 10:12 PM Posts: 2,421 Offline	Re: Re: don't cry Quote: Originally posted by WAY Phil, can you tell me if us decendents of criminals down under (although I am actually Chinese and am probably decendent of some opium dealer instead ) are able to get the Hartge conversion? Do you know if there is a distributor of Hargte product here in Australia? Thanks. WAY: Boo posted the following in the jcw kit dropped by BMW-thread Just been talking to the boys at Peak Performance out at Parramatta, they will be selling the Hartge upgrades for the Cooper S soon. Apparently the are just waiting for the info packs to come out from Germany Maybe you can contact him for more info

Jan 18th, 2003, 08:00 AM	#210 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 467 Offline	Re: Re: Re: don't cry Quote: Originally posted by QQQ WAY: Boo posted the following in the jcw kit dropped by BMW-thread Just been talking to the boys at Peak Performance out at Parramatta, they will be selling the Hartge upgrades for the Cooper S soon. Apparently the are just waiting for the info packs to come out from Germany Maybe you can contact him for more info Hey thanks for that QQQ!!! Haven't been following all the threads lately.

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Jan 16th, 2003, 05:25 PM	#201
HardTimes RX-8 Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Liverpool Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 170 Offline	Well this is very nice, I look for some comfort and instead you're trying to flog your old gear to me!! It does sound quite nice though to be honest, however I'm in a real dilemma now about possibly going for a Cherished low milage Cooper S (so it's all run in etc.) then getting the Hartge mod! Oh no and to think I've only had my Cooper for 4 months or so... ...must be sensible... Chris

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Jan 16th, 2003, 05:34 PM	#202 (permalink)
Bonnie Scotland Gadget Man Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montrose, Scotland Local Time: 08:12 PM Posts: 1,869 Offline	Quote: HardTimes Said Oh no and to think I've only had my Cooper for 4 months or so... Funnily enough i only had my cooper for 4 months, but i was lucky, my dealer had all the bits i wanted on an S and more on a brand new car in the showroom, so i just did the bizzo there and then. Now if only i could stop spending money on it i might be a wealthy man alan fae bonnie scotland

Jan 17th, 2003, 12:54 AM	#203 (permalink)
HardTimes RX-8 Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Liverpool Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 170 Offline	I'm terrible for changing cars but I finally found the Mini keeps me satified with looks and the way it handles... however it's now too slow for me and I've been looking at the JCW S and the Hartge! A new breed of Mini and now I want to change... In the last 18 months I've had the following; Fiat Punto GT, BMW M3, Rav 4, New Corolla T-Sport, Nissan Skyline R33 GTS-T and now my Cooper! As you can imagine it's stung me quite a bit changing all those... but I want to change again... I can't help it and the Hartge sounds great!! Where's my Psychiatrist? Chris

Jan 17th, 2003, 03:53 PM	#205 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 467 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by HardTimes I'm terrible for changing cars but I finally found the Mini keeps me satified with looks and the way it handles... however it's now too slow for me and I've been looking at the JCW S and the Hartge! A new breed of Mini and now I want to change... In the last 18 months I've had the following; Fiat Punto GT, BMW M3, Rav 4, New Corolla T-Sport, Nissan Skyline R33 GTS-T and now my Cooper! As you can imagine it's stung me quite a bit changing all those... but I want to change again... I can't help it and the Hartge sounds great!! Where's my Psychiatrist? Chris Hey, you sound exactly like me!!! Let's see, last 18 months...Audi A4, BMW 325ci, Audi TT Roadster and now the Cooper S. Again like you, I am also finding the S a little slow. Bring on the mods!!!

Jan 17th, 2003, 04:09 PM	#206 (permalink)
HardTimes RX-8 Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Liverpool Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 170 Offline	It's terribly expensive to change all the time but what can you do... we obviously demand too much from our cars! How did you find the TT Roadster?? Chris

Jan 17th, 2003, 11:20 PM	#208 (permalink)
cleverzippy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kettering, Northants Local Time: 10:12 PM Posts: 178 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by WAY Hey, you sound exactly like me!!! Let's see, last 18 months...Audi A4, BMW 325ci, Audi TT Roadster and now the Cooper S. Again like you, I am also finding the S a little slow. Bring on the mods!!! Jeez, you people have far too much money to burn

Jan 18th, 2003, 12:57 AM	#209 (permalink)
HardTimes RX-8 Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Liverpool Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 170 Offline	The scary thing is mate is that I dont have the money... it's just an illness!! Chris

Jan 18th, 2003, 08:03 AM	#211 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 467 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by HardTimes It's terribly expensive to change all the time but what can you do... we obviously demand too much from our cars! How did you find the TT Roadster?? Chris The TT Roadster is a great car, but understeers like a pig. I never got around to mod it to fix that problem, as I was finding that I didn't use the convertible top. To be honest with you, I am regretting that I didn't just go for the coupe. Would still have the car if I did. Quattro and 225bhp (which increases to 250 with chipping) is very desirable. Love the feeling when the Turbo comes on full steam.

Jan 18th, 2003, 05:49 PM	#212 (permalink)
HardTimes RX-8 Owner Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Liverpool Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 170 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by WAY I am regretting that I didn't just go for the coupe It's sounds like the Quattro could be the next car on your list mate! I have just been reading the article on the Hartge Cooper S and it does sound awesome. I was wondering though has anyone had the problem they mention briefly on their converted car?? Apparently it was a weak engine bracket... Chris

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Jan 18th, 2003, 11:16 PM	#213 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 467 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by HardTimes It's sounds like the Quattro could be the next car on your list mate! I have just been reading the article on the Hartge Cooper S and it does sound awesome. I was wondering though has anyone had the problem they mention briefly on their converted car?? Apparently it was a weak engine bracket... Chris Hmm, can someone PLEASE scan the article or type out some key points (if not the whole article ) so that the rest of the world could read it too? I am so keen to read about this conversion. I really love the way the S handles, but it just need some more power. It will make my partner very happy if I do this conversion, as it is a much cheaper option than buying a new car again!!!

Jan 19th, 2003, 12:11 AM	#214 (permalink)
WAY MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 467 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by obehave It's on another thread here on this site. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/...=32822%3C/a%3E Hey thanks so much for the article!!! I REALLY want to do this conversion now!!! Can someone tell me how would the Piper Cross cold air intake affect this conversion? I have been running the Piper X for awhile now, and as far as I can tell from that article, the intake has not been modified? Can someone who has done the mod tell me??? Thanks!

Jan 19th, 2003, 11:16 AM	#215 (permalink)
Bonnie Scotland Gadget Man Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montrose, Scotland Local Time: 08:12 PM Posts: 1,869 Offline	Quote: WAY Asked Hey thanks so much for the article!!! I REALLY want to do this conversion now!!! Can someone tell me how would the Piper Cross cold air intake affect this conversion? I don't think you would have any problem, i took mine off for the hartge conversion thinking that a mod was done there. No mods are made to the induction side at all, so with the stock filter you still get 212 BHP. alan fae bonnie scotland