[podger]

At last !! it's available !!! I received this today

Subj: Superchips
Date: 04/12/2002 16:43:08 GMT Standard Time
From: constantin.tsitsis@superchips.co.uk
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December 4, 2002
Mini Cooper S

Dear



Further to your interest shown in Superchips.We have now released a modification for your Mini Cooper S.



Superchips reprogramme the ignition timing and fuelling maps of the car’s on-board computer (Electronic Control Unit), resulting in:

· Increased torque, or pulling power, which reduces the need for gear changing.

· Optimised power output, giving smoother performance and better response (for example when overtaking).

· The potential for greater fuel economy, when driven carefully.


When fitted with a Superchip, your Mini Cooper S would gain up to 7 bhp respectively and an increase of up to 10% in torque (detailed power and torque curves are included, if available).

The car’s fuelling is carefully managed to avoid compromising fuel economy and retain the long term reliability of the engine. For your peace of mind, a Superchips warranty is included - at no additional cost - for vehicles that are still covered by the original manufacturer’s warranty for UK customers.

Our approved fitting centres in your area are Powerstation (Cheltenham) Tel: 01242 238400 or Car Port & Motorsport (Ross-on-Wye) Tel: 01989 567557. The modification usually takes about an hour, and costs £293.75 * including installation and VAT. (*Price subject to change. Regional price variations on installation may apply).

Alternatively please advise your location for local agent details.

If you require any further information or assistance, please do not hesitate to call.



Yours sincerely





Constantin

Technical Sales









Buckingham Industrial Park, Buckingham MK18 1XJ, Tel: 01280 816781 Email:sales@superchips.co.uk

[Grinder]

Woohoo!

[Grinder]

What was the image attachment they sent you?

[911ETR]

7 bhp ??? Are they kidding??? I see most tuners have 18-35hp. They must be confused with the regular Cooper.

Note to all your ECU folks looking for more power.

Make sure you get the exact chip for your stage:

Stage 1: ECU ugrade only
Stage 2: ECU + Intake
Stage 3: ECU + Intake + Exhaust
Stage 4: Cam and what ever else

You can gain more HP if your ECU program is optimized for what you are running. I think that Mini-Madness is working on this.

[Bonnie Scotland]

I can't see anyone chucking away £300 for 7 BHP.

alan fae bonnie scotland

[stu(pid)]

On the superchips website (www.superchips.co.uk/curves/coopers.pdf) it shows the dyno curves. BHP increases from 165 to 171, and torque goes from 150 lbft to 154.

[911ETR]

back to the drawing board for superchips

[alexcroft]

Every horse counts lads!

Alex.

[podger]

Quote:

Originally posted by Grinder
What was the image attachment they sent you?

The image was just their logo


It's as far as the other comments, the only 7 bhp etc , Superchips have a joint venture with Grahame Goode Racing , if you want the gearing mod' to the supercharger that produces substantially more power (bhp) that from memory is £900 , that takes it up to nearly 200 bhp.

I have no axe to grind ,and will go Superchip only, as I know that the chip alone will not be detected easily , and invalidate my warranty from BMW, with the 7bhp from my Pipercross, and 7bhp plus from Superchip plus the extra torque I will be more than happy for just under £400

As far as "claims" from other tuners , they are certainly just that ..........don't forget the S is already tuned as a performance engine , so the gains are going to be much less than the Mini one , and Cooper.


I've used Superchips, in Impreza's and Evo's and they are reliable and do what they say ........

[QQQ]

Quote:

Originally posted by alexcroft
Every horse counts lads!

Alex.

Dont think so, the only horse I know that can count is Mr. Ed

[Grinder]

Quote:

Originally posted by QQQ

Dont think so, the only horse I know that can count is Mr. Ed

omg lol...that was horrible!

[911ETR]

Your warranty is trashed if you have the chip in the UK?? Thats not the case in the states. They have to prove your mod caused the issue.
Gearing mod sounds nice but also sounds labor intensive but is going to have to be a must!.

It would be better to buy an intake at 9hp for the cost of this chip.
£293.75 or £41.96 per 1 BHP??? That is ok with you?

Rentech AMG in North America produced a very mild chip for the MCS at 22.9hp. They claimed that they could get more power but didnt want to because they wanted to guarntee the relialibility.

The stage chips are next and thats what I am shooting for.



Personally I think 7hp its a waste of time. You cant even really feel 7hp. No offense.

Quote:

Originally posted by podger


The image was just their logo


It's as far as the other comments, the only 7 bhp etc , Superchips have a joint venture with Grahame Goode Racing , if you want the gearing mod' to the supercharger that produces substantially more power (bhp) that from memory is £900 , that takes it up to nearly 200 bhp.

I have no axe to grind ,and will go Superchip only, as I know that the chip alone will not be detected easily , and invalidate my warranty from BMW, with the 7bhp from my Pipercross, and 7bhp plus from Superchip plus the extra torque I will be more than happy for just under £400

As far as "claims" from other tuners , they are certainly just that ..........don't forget the S is already tuned as a performance engine , so the gains are going to be much less than the Mini one , and Cooper.


I've used Superchips, in Impreza's and Evo's and they are reliable and do what they say ........

[Grinder]

I'm pretty sure you can feel a 7 hp increase, but i dont think it'd be drastic. And yes, for the money the performance gains are quite low, but they claim that they're undetectable. Is that valueable? Maybe. If you do have to get into a legal battle about the Magnuson-Moss Act, chances are you're going to lose because of time and money... So it all comes down to how cool your dealer is.

[Keith]

But I don't want an undetectable performance increase

[Chrono]

I get a strange feeling that bolting on hp is not the way to significantly increase the MCS's speed. just a hunch i have at this given time, the coming months will tell as i start my project. keep you guys informed.

[Grinder]

"Project"?? What project?? Do tell!

[911ETR]

do you mean overall speed? TOP SPEED? Or 0-60 speed? 0-100?

Whats your goal. I think in all cases Torque is a better friend in the 0-60 and 0-100.

[Chrono]

i just need to make sure the funds wont run out before im able to fit it all together. that and i havent found everything im looking for yet. but once i know for sure ill post most definatly.

but just to give you a glimpse, instead of trying to add hp off the bat i plan on geting every single bit of hp and torque humanly possibly to the road, also i plan on cuting down rotational weight signifcantly and overall weight of the car. Also lowering and stiffening the cars suspension. then after all that is through and done with if im still not satisfied ill start bolting on the power. did i mention quaife?

i guess at most its just a different attempt at what your all trying to achieve.

[TomM]

Smaller engines don't produce huge HP increases like you see on larger displacement engines. Add to the fact that the engines in our cars are ****, I won't be counting on huge HP increases. I think reducing the weight of the car and bigger SC/Intercoolers are going to be your best bet at boosting the seat of the pants HP figure.

Tom

[minimini36]

I am not surprised that superchips only got 7 hp. This had been reported here before. There was also a thread by an individual who had the EVOTech/MINI Madness upgrade and only got about 10 hp not the 22.9 advertised. This seems reasonable considering the the small displacement of the engine and the fact it is already running on premium fuel.