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| MINI2 Master | K&N Typhoon for the S? I just looked at the K&N Typhoon kit for the S. Slightly different approach then we're used to seeing. Here's the install instructions if you're interested in seeing how it differs: http://www.knfilters.com/typhoon/69-2021.pdf I think this is what was on Helix's car during the meet on sunday? -- Cheese |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: new jersey Local Time: 05:59 AM
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Offline | That is the kit that was on the Helix car. Definitely the nicest looking package with those polished pipes. That was one nice car as well. ![]() '03 MCS - LY/W "Fried Egg" |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Local Time: 02:59 AM
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Offline | Hey guys, I just returned the K&N Typhoon kit today and just wanted to let you guys know a couple things (my opinions): 1. From the onset, I was disappointed that K&N did not incorporate a full wrap-around heatsheild setup like the Madness kit. As you can see in the instructions, the K&N kit is missing a heatshield facing the front of the car. I figured though, that I might just fabricate one on my own (never happened, see below). 2. The K&N pipe that replaces the front snorkel piping (the one with the opening behind the front grille) is designed rather odd. It's a lot less convaluted than the stock one, but is also a lot shorter, and is angled upward and points towards the back of the K&N filter. This is one aspect that I couldn't quite clearly see in the online instructions. Had I known, I wouldn't have bothered ordering, because this pipe would get in the way of making an effective and simple heatshield (as I mentioned earlier). I'm sure K&N did these things for a reason, but unfortunately, I don't get it. It seems like this system would suck in a lot of hot air from ambient engine temps, especially when the car is a stand-still. |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Local Time: 02:59 AM
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Offline | Hi Cheese ![]() I didn't install it, b/c once I had, I couldn't return it (according to their policy). I too have been very impressed with K&N kits in the past. My last one was a K&N Aircharger kit for the S2000, which I installed about 2 weeks ago. Fit, finish, performance, and sound were GREAT. But with this one, I just couldn't get over the design concept. ![]() Oh and btw, you can pick up this kit at www.truckperformance.com for about $260. |
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| MINI2 Master | $260 seems like a lot for what you get. The Dakota R/T kit was about that price and you got a huge injection molded plastic airhat/tube and a heatshield. This one is just some silly pipes. Summit has it for about the same price. I'm probably going to just make my own. I'll let you know how it works out. -- Dave |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas,TX Local Time: 04:59 AM
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Offline | 6f7, How do you like this kit? MCS DS/W black leather Premium package (bonnet strips, sun roof, OBC, MFSW) Sport Package (DSC, 17' S-Lites, Zenon, Fog lamps) HK. Madness Intake Borla Exhaust OZ Racing Prodrive P1's |
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Offline | I don't really like it. I mean the Tubing looks good and all, but they didn't even run it to the bottom, or anything. they didn't seal anything off properly, and allow heat from the engine to come right into the intake. I'm not sure how this intake will perform as the air temperature starts to heat up. Pilo Racing www.piloracing.com Intakes, Ignitions, Heads, Superchargers and more... stop on in |
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| The Power Cube | looking at the pictures.... Does the tube without a filter on it blow air out ? if so, this is in direct line with the intake filter. Will this not cause the air temerature to increase over time ? ![]() Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing... |
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Offline | This was my sentiments exactly. At least with the main tube, maybe fabricating an extra heat shield would've been a tolerable project, but that secondary air source tubing... nothing reasonable can be done with that. |
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Offline | Not sure if I understand the question, but that non-filtered tube channels air from the front of the car (facing the front grille area) toward the back of the K&N filter. My guess is that this thing was designed this way to help offset the hot engine bay air temp ingestion that the filter would normally suck up. It doesn't seem like a good remedy though... especially when the car is not moving! |
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Offline | how is rain water diverted in the stock S airbox? it has to go somewhere. maybe thats what the typhoon odd design is for. i'd rather have some ambient warm air then water in my air filter. can anyone explain this |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Local Time: 03:59 AM
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Offline | The way the K&N works is very similar to the factory design, so the water run off is not an issue. The issue I have with the K&N is two-fold: 1. The tubes are aluminum - which is good because they replace the convoluded sound tube on the factory snorkle, but aluminum also has high heat conducivity - reducing the air density once it heat soaks. 2. The K&N does not have a full heat shield, so the intake is exposed to hot under bonnet air. I do like the element, and for looks, the K&N can't be beat. Let me know if I can answer any other questions. Randy 2002 MCS Chili Red/White - "The Mule" with 240+ warm horsepower at the flywheel [mods] |
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Offline | Couple notes: 1. I've heard it said that due to the intercooler setup on the S, that underhood temperatures don't get as hot as one might think. If that is true, a shield may not be necessary. 2. Based on the pic posted above, fresh cool air is routed in directly towards the filter. Again, if this works well, a heat shield may not be necessary. 3. Don't lose sleep over getting the filter wet in rain! I've got K&N filters on both my motorcycles. My Guzzi sees the most miles, and it's filters are completely exposed to the elements. I've ridden through biblical rain with that bike, and it doesn't affect the motor at all. There's no possible way that the K&N on the MINI would ever be exposed to this kind of soaking rain (unless you remove your bonnet completely), so IMHO, getting rain on the MINI filter is a non-issue. It just doesn't matter. I think I may look into getting one of these K&N kits for my MCS... |
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