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mn_angrybeats · Feb 12th, 2003, 09:49 PM

Click Here For my Report Posted On Evo Forum On My Hartge Conversion

Question, at a service is there any chance that they would reset the engine ECU losing the Hartge info ??

Is the service schedule computer different to the engine ecu ??

minitech · Feb 13th, 2003, 01:32 AM

yes the oil service counter is seperate then your(DME)engine computer.now as for the software loss??...i dont know if the software would be lost if they had to do an update on your DME at your service....good question!!!

QQQ · Feb 13th, 2003, 07:35 AM

I asked the same question when I visited digi-tec last Saturday. They told me that the software theoretically could be resetted at a service, however they would have to do it on purpose and according to them most mechanics wouldn't know how to do it. 'Next Saturday I will visit Hartge and ask the same question

QQQ · Feb 13th, 2003, 07:51 AM

Angrybeats:
Very nice report on the EVO forum

****, you got me doubting again. I changed from 90% Hartge to 90% digi-tec after the test drive I had in their MCS. Having re-read EVO's report and now your report, I still don't know to be honest. Bottle neck will be the breathtaking top-end performance the Hartge seems to have and of course their over 30 years reputation as a first class BMW tuner.

You say Birds reccommands Optimax but that it also runs good on normal unleaded. Is normal 'unleaded' 95RON or 98RON? I'd expect you'd get a better mpg with Optimax as the ECU is adjusted to high Octane fuel. Consequently the ECU will supply more fuel to the engine when a lower octane is used

Cheers

Bonnie Scotland · Feb 13th, 2003, 09:48 AM

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mn_angybeats asked
Question, at a service is there any chance that they would reset the engine ECU losing the Hartge info??

I guess this depends on whether your dealer knows about the conversion.
Assuming he does not know, then yes theoretically your ecu could be overwritten, however, as previously posted, why would they be accessing the engine computer.
In my case it is well documented with my dealer that they do not go anywhere near the ecu, even to the stage when i have had my air bag light reset twice.
I am unsure as to wether the engine would start if they do over write it, hmm, i guess a call to birds is on the cards.

Like the write up, why don't you semd it to MINI2 as well, i know Paul is actively seeking reviews for the new section??

alan fae bonnie scotland

Feb 12th, 2003, 09:49 PM	#1
mn_angrybeats MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 11:26 PM Posts: 140 Offline	Hartge upgrade will the ECU be reset at a service ?? Click Here For my Report Posted On Evo Forum On My Hartge Conversion Question, at a service is there any chance that they would reset the engine ECU losing the Hartge info ?? Is the service schedule computer different to the engine ecu ?? http://www.angrybeats.co.uk

Feb 13th, 2003, 01:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
minitech Let's Motor... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Manchester, Mass Local Time: 06:26 PM Posts: 92 Offline	yes the oil service counter is seperate then your(DME)engine computer.now as for the software loss??...i dont know if the software would be lost if they had to do an update on your DME at your service....good question!!! *let's motor*

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Feb 13th, 2003, 07:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
QQQ MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: rotterdam Local Time: 11:26 PM Posts: 2,422 Offline	I asked the same question when I visited digi-tec last Saturday. They told me that the software theoretically could be resetted at a service, however they would have to do it on purpose and according to them most mechanics wouldn't know how to do it. 'Next Saturday I will visit Hartge and ask the same question

Feb 13th, 2003, 07:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
QQQ MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: rotterdam Local Time: 11:26 PM Posts: 2,422 Offline	Angrybeats: Very nice report on the EVO forum ****, you got me doubting again. I changed from 90% Hartge to 90% digi-tec after the test drive I had in their MCS. Having re-read EVO's report and now your report, I still don't know to be honest. Bottle neck will be the breathtaking top-end performance the Hartge seems to have and of course their over 30 years reputation as a first class BMW tuner. You say Birds reccommands Optimax but that it also runs good on normal unleaded. Is normal 'unleaded' 95RON or 98RON? I'd expect you'd get a better mpg with Optimax as the ECU is adjusted to high Octane fuel. Consequently the ECU will supply more fuel to the engine when a lower octane is used Cheers

Feb 13th, 2003, 09:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Bonnie Scotland Gadget Man Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montrose, Scotland Local Time: 09:26 PM Posts: 1,961 Offline	Quote: mn_angybeats asked Question, at a service is there any chance that they would reset the engine ECU losing the Hartge info?? I guess this depends on whether your dealer knows about the conversion. Assuming he does not know, then yes theoretically your ecu could be overwritten, however, as previously posted, why would they be accessing the engine computer. In my case it is well documented with my dealer that they do not go anywhere near the ecu, even to the stage when i have had my air bag light reset twice. I am unsure as to wether the engine would start if they do over write it, hmm, i guess a call to birds is on the cards. Like the write up, why don't you semd it to MINI2 as well, i know Paul is actively seeking reviews for the new section?? alan fae bonnie scotland

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