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Greendevil · Apr 16th, 2003, 12:42 PM

I have replaced the stock exhaust (which is a heavy piece of speghetti) with a stainless steel Scorpion exhaust. I have also replaced the stock cat with a highflow cat. Net result is an extra 10KW at the wheels (no dyno but a conservative figure provided by my mechanic who specialises in BMW performance mods). Midrange is stronger due largely to the smoother exhaust flow and top end has more fizz which is where the new cat helps. It also sounds the dogs. Almost as quiet as stock at idle (slightly deeper rumble) and nice and throaty at higher RPM without sounding "ricey". Best described as a British Sports Car growl! I have a link for the videos which I will post shortly.

erichui · Apr 16th, 2003, 12:57 PM

how much did the exhaust cost u?

Greendevil · Apr 16th, 2003, 01:07 PM

A$2100 + $80 for fitting if you don't do it yourself. I watched while they did it and took less than an hour.

erichui · Apr 16th, 2003, 01:18 PM

pictures please

TheBlackKnight · Apr 16th, 2003, 03:09 PM

Sounds like the same setup I got on my Cooper - makes it sound like there's a V8 block under yer bonnet ;-)

disdis · Apr 16th, 2003, 08:30 PM

how much was the high-flow cat???

i got a similar quote for a Milltek cat-back at QSZ in melb.

Greendevil · Apr 17th, 2003, 06:20 AM

$300. Apparently used by V8's. Still uses the O2 sensor wire from the MINI and is 100% legal. The stock cat is a real bootleneck apparently. I used ALS Performance in Sydney who are affiliated with QSZ in Melbourne. Full benefits won't be realised till the ECU learns the new dyanmics although after about 100kms I really did start to notice the power delivery difference.

disdis · Apr 17th, 2003, 09:42 PM

300 sounds awfully cheap for a cat replacement!

jonlscool · Apr 18th, 2003, 02:03 PM

post the videos!! this setup sounds like it would sound great! HURRY!!!

Greendevil · Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:48 AM

Here are some pics. Videos will be posted shortly...!

Greendevil · Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:51 AM

Y junction for smooth flow (unlike Magnaflow)

Greendevil · Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:52 AM

Filling the valance area..

Greendevil · Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:54 AM

Side shot of exhaust tips.

disdis · Apr 22nd, 2003, 08:58 PM

nice! very subtle indeed!

does the high-flow cat make much of a difference??

i ask the guy at QSZ and they said they dont hv any high-flow cats for MCS for 300....at da moment

they can however order the Milltek cat which is ridiculously expensive!

cos if u just get the Milltek cat-back, the performance gain would be v small since the cat is the bottle-neck...

911ETR · Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greendevil
Y junction for smooth flow (unlike Magnaflow)

Whats the orange stuff?

TheBlackKnight · Apr 23rd, 2003, 03:18 PM

Quote:

if u just get the Milltek cat-back, the performance gain would be v small since the cat is the bottle-neck...

In fact, the OE manifold is extremely restrictive and I'm sure you'd realise a 6-10BHP power gain even without a high-flow cat-back exhaust. True, the cat is a bottle-neck, but I'd still have said you'd get a decent power gain with just the Milltek. I may be wrong!

Still, the Milltek came after the filter and exhaust for me; have yet to get it dyno'd but it feels like it's got plenty grunt

Greendevil · Apr 23rd, 2003, 04:58 PM

A heat resistant sealant. As you can see, with soo much heat it turns the stainless steel a bronze colour.

CT MINI · Apr 23rd, 2003, 10:45 PM

Is the Scorpion available in the U.S.? It seems significantly less expensive than the Milltek.

Greendevil · Apr 24th, 2003, 09:24 AM

Go to http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=29546

Greendevil · Apr 27th, 2003, 04:12 PM

Exhaust has NO "T" junctions for smooth high volume exhaust flow. I have attached another pic which is from a Scorpion exhaust dealer in Melbourne, Australia.

Apr 16th, 2003, 12:42 PM	#1
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	Scorpion Exhaust and Highflow Cat I have replaced the stock exhaust (which is a heavy piece of speghetti) with a stainless steel Scorpion exhaust. I have also replaced the stock cat with a highflow cat. Net result is an extra 10KW at the wheels (no dyno but a conservative figure provided by my mechanic who specialises in BMW performance mods). Midrange is stronger due largely to the smoother exhaust flow and top end has more fizz which is where the new cat helps. It also sounds the dogs. Almost as quiet as stock at idle (slightly deeper rumble) and nice and throaty at higher RPM without sounding "ricey". Best described as a British Sports Car growl! I have a link for the videos which I will post shortly. BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

Apr 16th, 2003, 12:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
erichui MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 596 Offline	how much did the exhaust cost u? 05 PW/B chilli. finally here. Last edited by erichui : Apr 16th, 2003 at 01:18 PM.

Apr 16th, 2003, 01:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
erichui MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 596 Offline	pictures please 05 PW/B chilli. finally here.

Apr 16th, 2003, 03:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheBlackKnight MINI2 Senior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 375 Offline	Sounds like the same setup I got on my Cooper - makes it sound like there's a V8 block under yer bonnet ;-) MINI Going.....Toyota Supra RZ-S Twin Turbo Coming....Standing Quarter, anyone....?

Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	Pictures of Scorpion Exhaust Here are some pics. Videos will be posted shortly...! Attached Thumbnails

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Apr 16th, 2003, 01:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	A$2100 + $80 for fitting if you don't do it yourself. I watched while they did it and took less than an hour.

Apr 16th, 2003, 08:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
disdis MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:52 PM Posts: 292 Offline	how much was the high-flow cat??? i got a similar quote for a Milltek cat-back at QSZ in melb.

Apr 17th, 2003, 06:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	$300. Apparently used by V8's. Still uses the O2 sensor wire from the MINI and is 100% legal. The stock cat is a real bootleneck apparently. I used ALS Performance in Sydney who are affiliated with QSZ in Melbourne. Full benefits won't be realised till the ECU learns the new dyanmics although after about 100kms I really did start to notice the power delivery difference.

Apr 17th, 2003, 09:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
disdis MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:52 PM Posts: 292 Offline	300 sounds awfully cheap for a cat replacement!

Apr 18th, 2003, 02:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
jonlscool MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: CA Local Time: 09:52 AM Posts: 11 Offline	post the videos!! this setup sounds like it would sound great! HURRY!!!

Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	Y junction for smooth flow (unlike Magnaflow) Attached Thumbnails

Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	Filling the valance area.. Attached Thumbnails

Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	Side shot of exhaust tips. Attached Thumbnails

Apr 22nd, 2003, 08:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
disdis MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 07:52 PM Posts: 292 Offline	nice! very subtle indeed! does the high-flow cat make much of a difference?? i ask the guy at QSZ and they said they dont hv any high-flow cats for MCS for 300....at da moment they can however order the Milltek cat which is ridiculously expensive! cos if u just get the Milltek cat-back, the performance gain would be v small since the cat is the bottle-neck...

Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
911ETR MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 607 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Greendevil Y junction for smooth flow (unlike Magnaflow) Whats the orange stuff?

Apr 23rd, 2003, 03:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
TheBlackKnight MINI2 Senior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 375 Offline	Quote: if u just get the Milltek cat-back, the performance gain would be v small since the cat is the bottle-neck... In fact, the OE manifold is extremely restrictive and I'm sure you'd realise a 6-10BHP power gain even without a high-flow cat-back exhaust. True, the cat is a bottle-neck, but I'd still have said you'd get a decent power gain with just the Milltek. I may be wrong! Still, the Milltek came after the filter and exhaust for me; have yet to get it dyno'd but it feels like it's got plenty grunt MINI Going.....Toyota Supra RZ-S Twin Turbo Coming....Standing Quarter, anyone....?

Apr 23rd, 2003, 04:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	A heat resistant sealant. As you can see, with soo much heat it turns the stainless steel a bronze colour. BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

Apr 23rd, 2003, 10:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
CT MINI MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Connecticut, U.S.A. Local Time: 04:52 AM Posts: 115 Offline	Is the Scorpion available in the U.S.? It seems significantly less expensive than the Milltek. MCS Pure Silver/Black Illegitimi non carborundum.

Apr 24th, 2003, 09:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	VIDEOS NOW READY Go to http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=29546 BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

Apr 27th, 2003, 04:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 280 Offline	A better shot from underneath Exhaust has NO "T" junctions for smooth high volume exhaust flow. I have attached another pic which is from a Scorpion exhaust dealer in Melbourne, Australia. Attached Thumbnails BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

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