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| MINI2 Master | Latest Dyno Testing - Helix/P&D, Magnaflow, ALTA ![]() |
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| MINI2 Master | Max, I definitely am interested in chips that deliver significant results and will post some testing soon. QQQ, The water/air is on the agenda too, but I haven't seen any production kits yet. Obehave, That difference is simply when the driver put down the pedal or the dyno operator started the test. Certainly, the engine makes torque from idle both stock and modded. I would not consider significant any of the data other than the "curves" in the plots. |
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| MINI2 Master | The notch is only quasi-evil, demi-evil, not-quite-evil enough. BTW, using my baseline of 144.1 whp, if my MCS truly had 163 hp at the crank (I believe it did), then my crank horsepower now is about 196 hp and just shy of 180 lb/ft of torque. Mods (retail price including installation): Pulley $400-$500 Exhaust $600-700 Intake $300 Total $1300-1500 We'll see when the JCW cars start hitting the dragstrip, but I think the above 3 mods deliver the same result as the JCW kit at about 1/4 the installed price. |
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| BOLT ON MASTER Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island NY Local Time: 05:37 PM
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Offline | andy, 1fastmcs said one of the magazines tested the jcw kit on the 1/4 mile and the best it ran was 15.1. that is horrible for all that money.Automobile magazine also did a write up on it and mike cooper is qouted as saying they only got 1.5 hp from computer upgrade. I wonder if they really know what they are doing. |
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| M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 06:37 PM
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Offline | When a JCW's car beats my time of 14.20 or even comes close it will be a miracle !!! Don't think it's going to happen. What a waste of $$$ 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a |
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| M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 06:37 PM
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Offline | 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a |
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| MINI2 Master | Just a query, it might be stupid... In quarter mile times you get a trap speed that says how fast the car is going when it gets to the quarter mile. Is it safe to extrapolate (within reason of course) the 0-100 mph times from that? i.e. you get to the quarter mile at 95 mph in 14.5 secs do you reckon to go the extra 5 mph it might be another 0.75 secs or maybe 1 second (or somewhere in between)? |
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| M7SPEED SPONSORED MINI ! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dix Hills,New York Local Time: 06:37 PM
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Offline | I would think the extra 5 MPH would be a little more than 1 sec. 1/4 mile 13.07 @109mph...258 wheel horsepower, 03 cooper"S" Pure Silver,18" Kahn's,Aero Kit,Nitrous Express NOS kit(50 shot),Evotech Computer upgrade,ALTA intake,short shifter,Magnaflow exhaust,header,pulley upgrade,cam,H&R springs,quaife,MSD Coil a |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reston, Virginia Local Time: 05:37 PM
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Offline | Do You Have an Air-Fuel Readout? I'm wondering, since there seems to be no engine management change. How lean is it above 3K rpm? Thanks, 2003 MINI Cooper S (daily driver) 2004 Corvette ZO6 (replacement for my beloved Supra) |
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| MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ny,ny Local Time: 05:37 PM
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Offline | keep in mind the dyno runs are mostly WOT, a range where the engine management runs from a fuel look up table. At lesser throttle openings, the O2 sensor is giving feedback. My butt feedback tells me the mid-throttle range is rich as well! I would assume that what you see in Andy's A/F curves is really a measure of A/F against rpm, not against throttle opening. john |
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| MINI2 Master | The fuel pressure regulator is located in the return line to the fuel tank. The more restriction in the regulator, the more pressure in the fuel going to the injectors. The fuel pressure regulator has a vacuum line running to the intake manifold. As manifold pressure increases, so does restriction in the fuel pressure regulator. So, it is completely possible that the engine is mechanically adjusting for the increased boost simply through increased fuel pressure. I haven't yet logged injector pulse widths to tell for sure though. One thing is for sure - there are not any adverse driveability effects to running a pulley with the stock programming. Long-term results will take some time, but there are now hundreds of thousands of cumulative miles on pulley'ed cars and I haven't heard of ANY problems apart from the occasional minor installation error. |
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