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AER · Jan 22nd, 2002, 10:34 AM

Anybody know when John Cooper garages will be releasing their 200bhp coversion for the MINI?
In their brochure for the current 130bhp works car, it states that the 200bhp version should be available early next year (i.e now/02).
One other question is, will it be based on the 'S' lump, or will it be an enlarged 1600?

monsta · Jan 22nd, 2002, 10:58 AM

It is only a conversion for the S, which is why it isn't available yet...

I think it might mean early 2003 as well

MichaelK · Jan 22nd, 2002, 12:05 PM

not sure when the conversion will be released, but the Cooper S works (200 BHP) should be released about the same time as the Cooper S

Cheers

Michael

smiffy · Jan 22nd, 2002, 01:26 PM

Im sure it wont be cheap

danielcraig · Jan 22nd, 2002, 02:57 PM

Good point AER be nice to see 200 from the 1600 wouldnt it, mind you if the basic kit is £2,500 how much is the 200 bhp kit going to be then????

smiffy · Jan 22nd, 2002, 02:59 PM

Honda have developed an engine with 220bhp from a 2 litre & its in the new Integra type R Coupe

MadMiniManiac · Jan 22nd, 2002, 03:16 PM

That's probably the same engine as is used in the Honda s2000.
Why can't we get the new integra type-r in the UK.
Sorry for going off-topic.

RickB · Jan 29th, 2002, 04:37 PM

Any idea what the JCW upgrade for the S will cost? 2500 pounds for a 15hp increase in the Cooper . . . Hmmmmm, at 167 pounds per horsepower, the S upgrade should cost 6167 pounds? My dealer was teasing me with the possibility of the JC Works S kit being a dealer-installed item, but I'm wondering what the cost will be in terms of fuel economy and insurance, as well as sticker price?

curly27 · Feb 7th, 2002, 06:26 AM

The JCW S conversion will be offered as a kit conversion at all Dealers, like the current one. This is part of the deal that Coopers have done with BMW.

If you want a pre converted car, you will have to order directly from JCWorks in Sussex, and if you order now, you will see your car around Feb 03 based on the supply of cars they and the dealers are going to see.

Worth every minutes/hours/days/weeks/months wait I think

LMB · Feb 7th, 2002, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by curly27
The JCW S conversion will be offered as a kit conversion at all Dealers, like the current one.

I have heard that at present dealerships want nothing to do with the conversion kits. I have yet to hear of anyone getting a works conversion done at a BMW dealership.

LMB

RickB · Feb 7th, 2002, 01:50 PM

My dealer told me that they are working at it, so there is some interest in doing the conversions, from at least one U.S. dealer.

Spoolin' · Feb 8th, 2002, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickB
My dealer told me that they are working at it, so there is some interest in doing the conversions, from at least one U.S. dealer.

Which Dealer are you referring too? Northwest MINI?

Mini S · Feb 8th, 2002, 12:54 PM

Hi guys, Im new here! :-)

I just received an email from Richard at JCW. I asked him about performance upgrades for the Cooper S and this is what he said...

"Our conversions will be available in the US later this year and will include a conversion upto 200BHP for the S"

I followed up with a few questions about price and whether it will be a dealer conversion. I'll let you know when I hear back from him.

kelley · Feb 16th, 2002, 05:16 PM

I was wondering if anybody knows what this kit will consist of. I have read in evo: at least 200 hp by means of lighter pulley engine management and exhaust as well as a significant brake upgrade. is this every thing. is the brake upgrade calipers and discs or just lines and pads. will there be suspension upgrades. will there be upgrdes for clutch and or transmission. will a limited slip diff. be fitted. I would think this would be almost a must for the type of hp and torque #'s it will produce. or does various traction controls cover this.
thanks for any info , kelley

Mini S · Feb 16th, 2002, 05:23 PM

I received an email back saying that the package for the Cooper S will be a dealer installed and warranteed add-on. Availability will be later in 2002. No pricing information was known.

Mini S

pk_lonestar · Feb 16th, 2002, 06:21 PM

That 200 BHP is probably measured at the flywheel. You'll need to subtract about 30 percent for road horsepower.

KarmanS · Feb 20th, 2002, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mini S
I received an email back saying that the package for the Cooper S will be a dealer installed and warranteed add-on. Availability will be later in 2002. No pricing information was known.

Mini S

Welcome to the board Mini S, thanks for sharing such great info! I will be looking forward to such a conversion if the cost is not too much. Just one more question I have if you know anything about it, what will be included in the kit besides the engine upgrade parts? thanks!

Mini Chopo "S" · Mar 1st, 2002, 12:25 PM

Mini S I am all for it I already have 5g saved for the car and I want @ least 200hp on the engine and I'll be happy!!!

DNG · Mar 2nd, 2002, 06:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by AER
[b]Anybody know when John Cooper garages will be releasing their 200bhp coversion for the MINI?

Richard at JC mail me and the S conversion will be avaliable in the UK from Sept 02, he also said they will achieve 200bhp

Jan 22nd, 2002, 10:34 AM	#1
AER MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Herts, UK Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 105 Offline	200bhp JCW kit? Anybody know when John Cooper garages will be releasing their 200bhp coversion for the MINI? In their brochure for the current 130bhp works car, it states that the 200bhp version should be available early next year (i.e now/02). One other question is, will it be based on the 'S' lump, or will it be an enlarged 1600?

Jan 22nd, 2002, 10:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 08:34 AM Posts: 4,774 Offline	It is only a conversion for the S, which is why it isn't available yet... I think it might mean early 2003 as well the MINI has gone...

Jan 22nd, 2002, 01:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 5,859 Offline	Im sure it wont be cheap S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

Jan 22nd, 2002, 02:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
danielcraig MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Fareham, Hampshire, UK Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 15 Offline	Works 200 BHP Good point AER be nice to see 200 from the 1600 wouldnt it, mind you if the basic kit is £2,500 how much is the 200 bhp kit going to be then????

Jan 22nd, 2002, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 5,859 Offline	Honda have developed an engine with 220bhp from a 2 litre & its in the new Integra type R Coupe S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

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Jan 22nd, 2002, 12:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
MichaelK MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 114 Offline	not sure when the conversion will be released, but the Cooper S works (200 BHP) should be released about the same time as the Cooper S Cheers Michael

Jan 22nd, 2002, 03:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
MadMiniManiac MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Perth Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 59 Offline	That's probably the same engine as is used in the Honda s2000. Why can't we get the new integra type-r in the UK. Sorry for going off-topic. Cooper, Silver with Black Roof. Full Black Leather, Chilli, ASC+T Fully Run-in and Fast as Hell!(for a 1600) Track Days rule...... Speed Camera's Don't!!!

Jan 29th, 2002, 04:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
RickB MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 781 Offline	Any idea what the JCW upgrade for the S will cost? 2500 pounds for a 15hp increase in the Cooper . . . Hmmmmm, at 167 pounds per horsepower, the S upgrade should cost 6167 pounds? My dealer was teasing me with the possibility of the JC Works S kit being a dealer-installed item, but I'm wondering what the cost will be in terms of fuel economy and insurance, as well as sticker price?

Feb 7th, 2002, 06:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
curly27 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Basingstoke Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 5 Offline	JCW S Dealer Conversion The JCW S conversion will be offered as a kit conversion at all Dealers, like the current one. This is part of the deal that Coopers have done with BMW. If you want a pre converted car, you will have to order directly from JCWorks in Sussex, and if you order now, you will see your car around Feb 03 based on the supply of cars they and the dealers are going to see. Worth every minutes/hours/days/weeks/months wait I think Curly27 Counting the days and the hours!

Feb 7th, 2002, 01:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:34 AM Posts: 22,013 Offline	Re: JCW S Dealer Conversion Quote: Originally posted by curly27 The JCW S conversion will be offered as a kit conversion at all Dealers, like the current one. I have heard that at present dealerships want nothing to do with the conversion kits. I have yet to hear of anyone getting a works conversion done at a BMW dealership. LMB Global Moderator

Feb 7th, 2002, 01:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
RickB MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 781 Offline	My dealer told me that they are working at it, so there is some interest in doing the conversions, from at least one U.S. dealer.

Feb 8th, 2002, 12:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Spoolin' MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Doylestown, Pennsylvania Local Time: 02:34 AM Posts: 261 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by RickB My dealer told me that they are working at it, so there is some interest in doing the conversions, from at least one U.S. dealer. Which Dealer are you referring too? Northwest MINI? Waiting, officially, since July 12, 2001. C'mon July 2002! Indi Blue Cooper S, White roof, Bonnet stripes, Lapis blue leather, Premium, Sport, and Winter packages. Is December here yet?

Feb 8th, 2002, 12:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mini S MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: IA Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 138 Offline	JCW conversions for Cooper S Hi guys, Im new here! :-) I just received an email from Richard at JCW. I asked him about performance upgrades for the Cooper S and this is what he said... "Our conversions will be available in the US later this year and will include a conversion upto 200BHP for the S" I followed up with a few questions about price and whether it will be a dealer conversion. I'll let you know when I hear back from him.

Feb 16th, 2002, 05:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
kelley MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 11:34 PM Posts: 3 Offline	I was wondering if anybody knows what this kit will consist of. I have read in evo: at least 200 hp by means of lighter pulley engine management and exhaust as well as a significant brake upgrade. is this every thing. is the brake upgrade calipers and discs or just lines and pads. will there be suspension upgrades. will there be upgrdes for clutch and or transmission. will a limited slip diff. be fitted. I would think this would be almost a must for the type of hp and torque #'s it will produce. or does various traction controls cover this. thanks for any info , kelley

Feb 16th, 2002, 05:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mini S MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: IA Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 138 Offline	JCW for Cooper S I received an email back saying that the package for the Cooper S will be a dealer installed and warranteed add-on. Availability will be later in 2002. No pricing information was known. Mini S

Feb 16th, 2002, 06:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
pk_lonestar MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orange Country, Cali Local Time: 11:34 PM Posts: 30 Offline	JCW Cooper S 200 HP That 200 BHP is probably measured at the flywheel. You'll need to subtract about 30 percent for road horsepower.

Feb 20th, 2002, 12:39 AM	#17 (permalink)
KarmanS PerformanceCar Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: HKG Local Time: 03:34 PM Posts: 1,380 Offline	Re: JCW for Cooper S Quote: Originally posted by Mini S I received an email back saying that the package for the Cooper S will be a dealer installed and warranteed add-on. Availability will be later in 2002. No pricing information was known. Mini S Welcome to the board Mini S, thanks for sharing such great info! I will be looking forward to such a conversion if the cost is not too much. Just one more question I have if you know anything about it, what will be included in the kit besides the engine upgrade parts? thanks!

Mar 1st, 2002, 12:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mini Chopo "S" MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Jacksonville, Florid Local Time: 02:34 AM Posts: 126 Offline	Mini S I am all for it I already have 5g saved for the car and I want @ least 200hp on the engine and I'll be happy!!!

Mar 2nd, 2002, 06:03 AM	#19 (permalink)
DNG MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North West Local Time: 07:34 AM Posts: 154 Offline	Re: 200bhp JCW kit? [quote]Originally posted by AER [b]Anybody know when John Cooper garages will be releasing their 200bhp coversion for the MINI? Richard at JC mail me and the S conversion will be avaliable in the UK from Sept 02, he also said they will achieve 200bhp E/B Cooper S

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