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Shorty · Oct 8th, 2003, 01:28 PM

Just had an email from Birds about GruppeM's induction kit

Looks fantastic, but comes in @ a cost of £721 + VAT!

Shorty · Oct 8th, 2003, 01:30 PM

Fogot to say , GruppeM use a K&N filter. More details at:

www.gruppemeurope.com

ananiou · Oct 8th, 2003, 03:54 PM

Hi Shorty, do you happen to have any dyno numbers? GruppeM is extreme quality and price indeed, highly usuable in high-end mods here in Greece (M3turbo etc). I would be interested, if it perfomes as it costs.

Nic D · Oct 8th, 2003, 03:57 PM

Hi shorty mate, but doesnt that appear to be just a cone filter in a sealed box...??!!

Shorty · Oct 8th, 2003, 03:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ananiou

Hi Shorty, do you happen to have any dyno numbers? GruppeM is extreme quality and price indeed, highly usuable in high-end mods here in Greece (M3turbo etc). I would be interested, if it perfomes as it costs.

Birds haven't got any in stock yet, but they are looking at 10-15 BHP gains.

Shorty · Oct 8th, 2003, 04:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Nic D

Hi shorty mate, but doesnt that appear to be just a cone filter in a sealed box...??!!

That's what I thought to be honest

I'm told that it's a carbon fibre box, but still sounds like a lot of money

Nic D · Oct 8th, 2003, 04:07 PM

Definitly! I'm almost positive as good as it is you can get a similar system knocked up for under #200!

ananiou · Oct 8th, 2003, 06:10 PM

The reason of such an extreme cost is obviously the carbon or carbon kevlar construction. Carbon is used because of its heat reflection and welding properties, also for its light weight and aerodynamic (friction on the air molecules). So the “plain” box more than that. But as I said we need to see some real dyno data, on a stock S preferably. I will try to contact the dealers here in Greece, but I doubt if the have anything yet, we have two in my country.

Nic D · Oct 9th, 2003, 09:32 PM

Yeah thats right the carbon fibre protects against heat soak, but for only a 10bhp gain you've really got to exhaust all other modes first such as a exhaust system befoer considering this.

Law of dimishing returns...

R Betts · Oct 10th, 2003, 07:58 PM

The box does look nice. A lot better than the minimania box and it has a cover. BUT the price is too high

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Oct 8th, 2003, 01:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Shorty MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Stourbridge Local Time: 10:58 AM Posts: 1,245 Offline	Fogot to say , GruppeM use a K&N filter. More details at: www.gruppemeurope.com

Oct 8th, 2003, 03:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
ananiou MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: kozani Local Time: 12:58 PM Posts: 136 Offline	Hi Shorty, do you happen to have any dyno numbers? GruppeM is extreme quality and price indeed, highly usuable in high-end mods here in Greece (M3turbo etc). I would be interested, if it perfomes as it costs.

Oct 8th, 2003, 03:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 10:58 AM Posts: 910 Offline	Hi shorty mate, but doesnt that appear to be just a cone filter in a sealed box...??!!

Oct 8th, 2003, 03:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Shorty MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Stourbridge Local Time: 10:58 AM Posts: 1,245 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ananiou Hi Shorty, do you happen to have any dyno numbers? GruppeM is extreme quality and price indeed, highly usuable in high-end mods here in Greece (M3turbo etc). I would be interested, if it perfomes as it costs. Birds haven't got any in stock yet, but they are looking at 10-15 BHP gains.

Oct 8th, 2003, 04:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Shorty MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Stourbridge Local Time: 10:58 AM Posts: 1,245 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Nic D Hi shorty mate, but doesnt that appear to be just a cone filter in a sealed box...??!! That's what I thought to be honest I'm told that it's a carbon fibre box, but still sounds like a lot of money

Oct 8th, 2003, 04:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 10:58 AM Posts: 910 Offline	Definitly! I'm almost positive as good as it is you can get a similar system knocked up for under #200!

Oct 8th, 2003, 06:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
ananiou MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: kozani Local Time: 12:58 PM Posts: 136 Offline	The reason of such an extreme cost is obviously the carbon or carbon kevlar construction. Carbon is used because of its heat reflection and welding properties, also for its light weight and aerodynamic (friction on the air molecules). So the “plain” box more than that. But as I said we need to see some real dyno data, on a stock S preferably. I will try to contact the dealers here in Greece, but I doubt if the have anything yet, we have two in my country.

Oct 9th, 2003, 09:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 10:58 AM Posts: 910 Offline	Yeah thats right the carbon fibre protects against heat soak, but for only a 10bhp gain you've really got to exhaust all other modes first such as a exhaust system befoer considering this. Law of dimishing returns...

Oct 10th, 2003, 07:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
R Betts MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 01:58 AM Posts: 21 Offline	The box does look nice. A lot better than the minimania box and it has a cover. BUT the price is too high

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