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ChrisBuer · Oct 8th, 2003, 06:31 PM

Ok,

I've searched the forums, spoken to MiniSpares and Birds, and I'm still not much closer to deciding.

I have a JCW S and am looking at putting on a sports manifold (i.e. miltek etc). Now two questions:

1. Will the current manifolds on the market fit the JCW exhaust system?

2. Is it worth waiting to see if JCW bring out a manifold in their new performance options in the new year? (I mean is it likely that they will change this item?)

Basically Birds said that if I want such a system, I might have to lose my JCW exhaust as the systems they have incorporate both the manifold and exhaust. They also said they had not heard of anyone putting one of these onto a JCW S.

So anyone out there with some ideas / theories?

Casey · Oct 8th, 2003, 06:36 PM

You can put Supersprint headers on your car and keep the stock cat that connects up to the JCW Exhaust. The JCW is just a cat back system correct?

scpaul · Oct 8th, 2003, 07:14 PM

many JCWs use Milltek, I use it, too. If JCW scored 90, then add Milltek will hit 97.
Now my car sounds better and runs MUCH better. A little bit louder then JCW, but very pleasing sound, not so instrutive. I think I need Alta CAI to fill my 3 extra points.

ChrisBuer · Oct 8th, 2003, 08:30 PM

The JCW is a cat back system yes. So I take it the Miltek will just replace the current system, there are no modifications needed to fit it?

brucesouthern · Oct 8th, 2003, 08:42 PM

I have ordered a motorsport version of the works s from john cooper and they are fitting the motorsport works exaust which is 2" bore as apposed to the 1 and 3/4 bore of the road going works exaust .Couple this to the motorsport 4-2-1 manifold and, it gets rid of the restiction that the normal exaust suffers from.when fitted with the cold air filter as well will give between 212-215 bhp.
Its expensive at around £600 for the manifold, I don't know how much the bigger bore exaust is as they are substituting it for the standard foc

Paul · Oct 8th, 2003, 08:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisBuer

The JCW is a cat back system yes. So I take it the Miltek will just replace the current system, there are no modifications needed to fit it?

Not quite, it's about 1/3 of the system, the pipe is cut and it's bolted on. God only knows why they did it this way and not a simple bolt on cat-back?

ChrisBuer · Oct 8th, 2003, 11:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by brucesouthern

Couple this to the motorsport 4-2-1 manifold and, it gets rid of the restiction that the normal exaust suffers from.when fitted with the cold air filter as well will give between 212-215 bhp.

So basically JC Garages offer another manifold? If thats the case, I might as well get it from them. No doubt however when I phone them they'll deny any knowledge of such a system

I'll phone them in the morning anyway, worth a shot I guess.

Cheers.

scpaul · Oct 9th, 2003, 01:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisBuer

The JCW is a cat back system yes. So I take it the Miltek will just replace the current system, there are no modifications needed to fit it?

yes. Milltek is bolt on, no need for modification with JCW cat back. Take about 20 min for skilled personal to install.

ChrisBuer · Oct 9th, 2003, 07:19 AM

Paul says:

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Not quite, it's about 1/3 of the system, the pipe is cut and it's bolted on. God only knows why they did it this way and not a simple bolt on cat-back?

ScPaul says:

Quote: Originally Posted by scpaul

yes. Milltek is bolt on, no need for modification with JCW cat back. Take about 20 min for skilled personal to install.

So it it just bolt on or "cut and bolt on" ?

scpaul · Oct 9th, 2003, 04:05 PM

ScPaul says:

So it it just bolt on or "cut and bolt on" ?[/quote]

no cut needed, simply bolt on, Milltek is designed exact sized as stock one.

LMB · Nov 5th, 2003, 01:16 AM

Miltek seems the popular choice. That's what I was thinking of getting.

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...ic&topic=18632

Hobbe · Dec 16th, 2003, 05:11 PM

LMB, have you ordered the Milltek manifold+sportcat yet ?
I´m about to...I think

LMB · Dec 16th, 2003, 05:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hobbe

LMB, have you ordered the Milltek manifold+sportcat yet ?
I´m about to...I think

I'm waiting to see what John Cooper Garages comes up with in the next month or two. From what I've heard they have got something in the pipeline.

Hobbe · Dec 16th, 2003, 05:49 PM

Hmmm, I´ll better wait another two-three months then.
AC Schnitzer springs and Milltek manifold+sportcat unless JCW will come up with something similar.

Oct 8th, 2003, 06:31 PM	#1
ChrisBuer MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 893 Offline	JCW and new manifold Ok, I've searched the forums, spoken to MiniSpares and Birds, and I'm still not much closer to deciding. I have a JCW S and am looking at putting on a sports manifold (i.e. miltek etc). Now two questions: 1. Will the current manifolds on the market fit the JCW exhaust system? 2. Is it worth waiting to see if JCW bring out a manifold in their new performance options in the new year? (I mean is it likely that they will change this item?) Basically Birds said that if I want such a system, I might have to lose my JCW exhaust as the systems they have incorporate both the manifold and exhaust. They also said they had not heard of anyone putting one of these onto a JCW S. So anyone out there with some ideas / theories? Lotus Elise SC - Collecting 1st April

Oct 8th, 2003, 08:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
ChrisBuer MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 893 Offline	The JCW is a cat back system yes. So I take it the Miltek will just replace the current system, there are no modifications needed to fit it? Lotus Elise SC - Collecting 1st April

Oct 8th, 2003, 11:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChrisBuer MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 893 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by brucesouthern Couple this to the motorsport 4-2-1 manifold and, it gets rid of the restiction that the normal exaust suffers from.when fitted with the cold air filter as well will give between 212-215 bhp. So basically JC Garages offer another manifold? If thats the case, I might as well get it from them. No doubt however when I phone them they'll deny any knowledge of such a system I'll phone them in the morning anyway, worth a shot I guess. Cheers. Lotus Elise SC - Collecting 1st April

Oct 9th, 2003, 07:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
ChrisBuer MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 893 Offline	Paul says: Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Not quite, it's about 1/3 of the system, the pipe is cut and it's bolted on. God only knows why they did it this way and not a simple bolt on cat-back? ScPaul says: Quote: Originally Posted by scpaul yes. Milltek is bolt on, no need for modification with JCW cat back. Take about 20 min for skilled personal to install. So it it just bolt on or "cut and bolt on" ? Lotus Elise SC - Collecting 1st April

Nov 5th, 2003, 01:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 24,895 Offline	Miltek seems the popular choice. That's what I was thinking of getting. http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...ic&topic=18632 Global Moderator

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Oct 8th, 2003, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Casey MINI2 co-founder Join Date: Jan 2001 Local Time: 11:16 AM Posts: 658 Offline	You can put Supersprint headers on your car and keep the stock cat that connects up to the JCW Exhaust. The JCW is just a cat back system correct?

Oct 8th, 2003, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
scpaul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Taipei Local Time: 12:16 AM Posts: 149 Offline	many JCWs use Milltek, I use it, too. If JCW scored 90, then add Milltek will hit 97. Now my car sounds better and runs MUCH better. A little bit louder then JCW, but very pleasing sound, not so instrutive. I think I need Alta CAI to fill my 3 extra points.

Oct 8th, 2003, 08:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
brucesouthern Mini addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: west of england Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 48 Offline	I have ordered a motorsport version of the works s from john cooper and they are fitting the motorsport works exaust which is 2" bore as apposed to the 1 and 3/4 bore of the road going works exaust .Couple this to the motorsport 4-2-1 manifold and, it gets rid of the restiction that the normal exaust suffers from.when fitted with the cold air filter as well will give between 212-215 bhp. Its expensive at around £600 for the manifold, I don't know how much the bigger bore exaust is as they are substituting it for the standard foc

Oct 8th, 2003, 08:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 40,781 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisBuer The JCW is a cat back system yes. So I take it the Miltek will just replace the current system, there are no modifications needed to fit it? Not quite, it's about 1/3 of the system, the pipe is cut and it's bolted on. God only knows why they did it this way and not a simple bolt on cat-back?

Oct 9th, 2003, 01:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
scpaul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Taipei Local Time: 12:16 AM Posts: 149 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisBuer The JCW is a cat back system yes. So I take it the Miltek will just replace the current system, there are no modifications needed to fit it? yes. Milltek is bolt on, no need for modification with JCW cat back. Take about 20 min for skilled personal to install.

Oct 9th, 2003, 04:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
scpaul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Taipei Local Time: 12:16 AM Posts: 149 Offline	ScPaul says: So it it just bolt on or "cut and bolt on" ?[/quote] no cut needed, simply bolt on, Milltek is designed exact sized as stock one.

Dec 16th, 2003, 05:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hobbe Absolut MINI Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Stockholm Local Time: 06:16 PM Posts: 729 Offline	LMB, have you ordered the Milltek manifold+sportcat yet ? I´m about to...I think MCS WORKS GP 0120 WWW.BMWSC.COM

Dec 16th, 2003, 05:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 24,895 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hobbe LMB, have you ordered the Milltek manifold+sportcat yet ? I´m about to...I think I'm waiting to see what John Cooper Garages comes up with in the next month or two. From what I've heard they have got something in the pipeline. Global Moderator

Dec 16th, 2003, 05:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hobbe Absolut MINI Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Stockholm Local Time: 06:16 PM Posts: 729 Offline	Hmmm, I´ll better wait another two-three months then. AC Schnitzer springs and Milltek manifold+sportcat unless JCW will come up with something similar. MCS WORKS GP 0120 WWW.BMWSC.COM

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