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CARETAKER · Oct 18th, 2003, 06:58 PM

Oh.. My.. Goodness. I installed the Alta intake that I got from OutMotoring to my stock MCS.. And I can't believe it's added so much more PEP to my car! It's like a totally different beast. If feels so much more aspirated than with the stock intake. Man.. IT'S AWESOME!

If you have yet to add an intake to your car, it's totally worth the 200 bucks or whatever you would spend on it! I'm off to go explore some bckroads!

It's also my first mechanical job on a car, but it was pretty straightforward to put in!

obehave · Oct 19th, 2003, 04:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CARETAKER

Oh.. My.. Goodness. I installed the Alta intake that I got from OutMotoring to my stock MCS.. And I can't believe it's added so much more PEP to my car! It's like a totally different beast. If feels so much more aspirated than with the stock intake. Man.. IT'S AWESOME!

If you have yet to add an intake to your car, it's totally worth the 200 bucks or whatever you would spend on it! I'm off to go explore some bckroads!

It's also my first mechanical job on a car, but it was pretty straightforward to put in!

Did you get the new intake tube as well?
It is a nice kit. I've been happy with mine.

CARETAKER · Oct 20th, 2003, 11:51 PM

I didn't get the intake tube, as I have heard that it only really helps if you have a big bore throttle body. If I do more extreme modifications, I'd probably look into it.

obehave · Oct 21st, 2003, 02:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CARETAKER

I didn't get the intake tube, as I have heard that it only really helps if you have a big bore throttle body. If I do more extreme modifications, I'd probably look into it.

When I bought mine you didn't have a choice. Early adopter penalty

Oh well. It's colorful anyway

GMINI · Oct 21st, 2003, 02:57 AM

You make it tempting. But too many naysayers out there.

flatsix02 · Oct 21st, 2003, 03:09 AM

Why you say that GMINI?? I have been mod shopping to kill time (2.5 weeks till my baby). I saw the ALTA on webb motorsports site and it looks good, why you say its bad?

-Scott

obehave · Oct 21st, 2003, 12:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by flatsix02

Why you say that GMINI?? I have been mod shopping to kill time (2.5 weeks till my baby). I saw the ALTA on webb motorsports site and it looks good, why you say its bad?

-Scott

He's not saying it's bad. What he's inferring is that there's is a group here that says CAI kits do nothing for a supercharged car.
What he's not saying is that there is no improvement over the OEM induction system.

The first comment is a matter of degrees. If the CAI makes no difference then why does the MCS run better in cold weather? The degrees come in where "how much" cooler the kit makes the air. If it's only 5º (purely random figure) then you won't really get a measureable difference. This is just my uneducated opinion
Second comment. There is definitely an improvement over the OEM system. I had the BMP and now the Alta. I can assure you there is an improvement. I'll let others argue how much.
My 2¢

scpaul · Oct 21st, 2003, 02:57 PM

Second comment. There is definitely an improvement over the OEM system. I had the BMP and now the Alta. I can assure you there is an improvement. I'll let others argue how much.
My 2¢[/quote]

obehave , can you compare BMP and Alta? I have BMP on my JCW Cooper S now, but I am planning to put Alta CAI along with Alta top mount intercooler. I am afraid I can't dsitinquish it's the intake or the intercooler work after modification.

Dark Mini · Oct 21st, 2003, 03:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CARETAKER

Oh.. My.. Goodness. I installed the Alta intake that I got from OutMotoring to my stock MCS.. And I can't believe it's added so much more PEP to my car! It's like a totally different beast. If feels so much more aspirated than with the stock intake. Man.. IT'S AWESOME!

If you have yet to add an intake to your car, it's totally worth the 200 bucks or whatever you would spend on it! I'm off to go explore some bckroads!

It's also my first mechanical job on a car, but it was pretty straightforward to put in!

Well that statement has just made my 2 week wait for the induction kit that little bit longer. I have ordered the Red pipe to go with my soon arriving red Samco hoses

obehave · Oct 21st, 2003, 03:53 PM

Quote:

obehave , can you compare BMP and Alta? I have BMP on my JCW Cooper S now, but I am planning to put Alta CAI along with Alta top mount intercooler. I am afraid I can't dsitinquish it's the intake or the intercooler work after modification.

This thread if you haven't read it may explain why going to the Alta may help in some situations.
I have a non pullied (for now) car.
For performance there wasn't much difference. My Alta came with the large diameter TB hose and I think this may flow too much for my car. I've babbled about it before. If I restrict the surface area of the filter the car is a little snappier but probably starves in the high RPM range. If you live above 3500 RPM's you'll be very happy. I actually ran the BMP filter in the Alta kit and felt no difference so I think the TB hose makes a difference.
I do like the fact that the Alta isolates the filter from under hood air. In reality it may not be much but I'll take small increments gladly.

Doing both maos at once will make it hard to tell where the improvement comes from but I'm thinking the biggest boost will come from your intercooler. Like I said above the change from the BMP was minimal.
If you have a pulley you'll be doing good.

DrkSlvrS · Oct 21st, 2003, 04:02 PM

Does the Alta CAI have a C.A.R.B. sticker on it?

Perry · Oct 21st, 2003, 07:22 PM

<For performance there wasn't much difference. My Alta came with the large diameter TB hose and I think this may flow too much for my car>

I'd wager that a return to a stock exhaust would give you the improvement that myself and others have experienced from the Alta intake. It's not a matter of too much air in, but not enough back pressure to utilize it.
Me, I'm having the pulley put on at Helix tomorrow..can't wait.
The exhaust, however will stay stock.
Perry

obehave · Oct 22nd, 2003, 12:35 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DrkSlvrS

Does the Alta CAI have a C.A.R.B. sticker on it?

So far there's not a CARB cert for any mods. Unless you count the JCW kit.

GMINI · Oct 22nd, 2003, 12:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Perry

Me, I'm having the pulley put on at Helix tomorrow..can't wait.
Perry

Say howdy to Eric for me!

What a great place to get a mod done!

obehave · Oct 22nd, 2003, 12:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Perry

<For performance there wasn't much difference. My Alta came with the large diameter TB hose and I think this may flow too much for my car>

I'd wager that a return to a stock exhaust would give you the improvement that myself and others have experienced from the Alta intake. It's not a matter of too much air in, but not enough back pressure to utilize it.
Me, I'm having the pulley put on at Helix tomorrow..can't wait.
The exhaust, however will stay stock.
Perry

There is probably some truth to that but I'm not giving up the gains the exhaust gives me.

I wish Helix was closer. 5 1/2 hours one way is too much for a day trip.
That's where I want to get mine done though.

Good luck and post some feedback info.

GMINI · Oct 22nd, 2003, 02:54 AM

Yeah and look out for the even smaller 17%er (or was it 19?) I saw at Ocktcooperfest. Good thing about Helix's is that the size is relatively easily swapped.

scpaul · Oct 24th, 2003, 04:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

This thread
Doing both maos at once will make it hard to tell where the improvement comes from but I'm thinking the biggest boost will come from your intercooler. Like I said above the change from the BMP was minimal.
If you have a pulley you'll be doing good.

obehave, I put Alta top mount intercooler & the oil can today, it does improve a lot. I feel like I have 7 shift gears now

.
I will put the Alta intake along with 61mm TB next week, will update the post then.

lex76 · Oct 24th, 2003, 07:00 AM

Is it true???
DOes the BMP air intake give you a gain of 12 bhp?
Cause some sites only give it a gain of 6!

red03miniS · Nov 25th, 2003, 05:56 AM

bmp or tyhpoon?

obehave · Nov 25th, 2003, 02:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scpaul

obehave, I put Alta top mount intercooler & the oil can today, it does improve a lot. I feel like I have 7 shift gears now

.
I will put the Alta intake along with 61mm TB next week, will update the post then.

Very nice. Definitely up some info when your other mods are done. I'd be interested.
I'm looking for the pulley next.
Unfortunately that IC upgrade is a little too rich for me.

Oct 18th, 2003, 06:58 PM	#1
CARETAKER MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Berkeley, CA Local Time: 09:50 AM Posts: 29 Offline	OMG. Installed Alta intake today. Oh.. My.. Goodness. I installed the Alta intake that I got from OutMotoring to my stock MCS.. And I can't believe it's added so much more PEP to my car! It's like a totally different beast. If feels so much more aspirated than with the stock intake. Man.. IT'S AWESOME! If you have yet to add an intake to your car, it's totally worth the 200 bucks or whatever you would spend on it! I'm off to go explore some bckroads! It's also my first mechanical job on a car, but it was pretty straightforward to put in!

Oct 21st, 2003, 02:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
GMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Connecticut Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 7,173 Offline	You make it tempting. But too many naysayers out there. NY/NE Mod

Oct 21st, 2003, 03:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
flatsix02 Hulk. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis Local Time: 04:50 AM Posts: 128 Offline	Why you say that GMINI?? I have been mod shopping to kill time (2.5 weeks till my baby). I saw the ALTA on webb motorsports site and it looks good, why you say its bad? -Scott http://flatsix.crazedtechs.net/1.jpg

Oct 21st, 2003, 03:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dark Mini MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Leicester Local Time: 09:50 AM Posts: 513 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CARETAKER Oh.. My.. Goodness. I installed the Alta intake that I got from OutMotoring to my stock MCS.. And I can't believe it's added so much more PEP to my car! It's like a totally different beast. If feels so much more aspirated than with the stock intake. Man.. IT'S AWESOME! If you have yet to add an intake to your car, it's totally worth the 200 bucks or whatever you would spend on it! I'm off to go explore some bckroads! It's also my first mechanical job on a car, but it was pretty straightforward to put in! Well that statement has just made my 2 week wait for the induction kit that little bit longer. I have ordered the Red pipe to go with my soon arriving red Samco hoses Cooper S : Dark silver, white roof

Oct 21st, 2003, 04:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
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Oct 19th, 2003, 04:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CARETAKER Oh.. My.. Goodness. I installed the Alta intake that I got from OutMotoring to my stock MCS.. And I can't believe it's added so much more PEP to my car! It's like a totally different beast. If feels so much more aspirated than with the stock intake. Man.. IT'S AWESOME! If you have yet to add an intake to your car, it's totally worth the 200 bucks or whatever you would spend on it! I'm off to go explore some bckroads! It's also my first mechanical job on a car, but it was pretty straightforward to put in! Did you get the new intake tube as well? It is a nice kit. I've been happy with mine.

Oct 20th, 2003, 11:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
CARETAKER MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Berkeley, CA Local Time: 09:50 AM Posts: 29 Offline	I didn't get the intake tube, as I have heard that it only really helps if you have a big bore throttle body. If I do more extreme modifications, I'd probably look into it.

Oct 21st, 2003, 02:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CARETAKER I didn't get the intake tube, as I have heard that it only really helps if you have a big bore throttle body. If I do more extreme modifications, I'd probably look into it. When I bought mine you didn't have a choice. Early adopter penalty Oh well. It's colorful anyway

Oct 21st, 2003, 12:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by flatsix02 Why you say that GMINI?? I have been mod shopping to kill time (2.5 weeks till my baby). I saw the ALTA on webb motorsports site and it looks good, why you say its bad? -Scott He's not saying it's bad. What he's inferring is that there's is a group here that says CAI kits do nothing for a supercharged car. What he's not saying is that there is no improvement over the OEM induction system. The first comment is a matter of degrees. If the CAI makes no difference then why does the MCS run better in cold weather? The degrees come in where "how much" cooler the kit makes the air. If it's only 5º (purely random figure) then you won't really get a measureable difference. This is just my uneducated opinion Second comment. There is definitely an improvement over the OEM system. I had the BMP and now the Alta. I can assure you there is an improvement. I'll let others argue how much. My 2¢

Oct 21st, 2003, 02:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
scpaul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Taipei Local Time: 05:50 PM Posts: 149 Offline	Second comment. There is definitely an improvement over the OEM system. I had the BMP and now the Alta. I can assure you there is an improvement. I'll let others argue how much. My 2¢[/quote] obehave , can you compare BMP and Alta? I have BMP on my JCW Cooper S now, but I am planning to put Alta CAI along with Alta top mount intercooler. I am afraid I can't dsitinquish it's the intake or the intercooler work after modification.

Oct 21st, 2003, 03:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: obehave , can you compare BMP and Alta? I have BMP on my JCW Cooper S now, but I am planning to put Alta CAI along with Alta top mount intercooler. I am afraid I can't dsitinquish it's the intake or the intercooler work after modification. This thread if you haven't read it may explain why going to the Alta may help in some situations. I have a non pullied (for now) car. For performance there wasn't much difference. My Alta came with the large diameter TB hose and I think this may flow too much for my car. I've babbled about it before. If I restrict the surface area of the filter the car is a little snappier but probably starves in the high RPM range. If you live above 3500 RPM's you'll be very happy. I actually ran the BMP filter in the Alta kit and felt no difference so I think the TB hose makes a difference. I do like the fact that the Alta isolates the filter from under hood air. In reality it may not be much but I'll take small increments gladly. Doing both maos at once will make it hard to tell where the improvement comes from but I'm thinking the biggest boost will come from your intercooler. Like I said above the change from the BMP was minimal. If you have a pulley you'll be doing good.

Oct 21st, 2003, 07:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
Perry MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia Local Time: 04:50 AM Posts: 32 Offline	<For performance there wasn't much difference. My Alta came with the large diameter TB hose and I think this may flow too much for my car> I'd wager that a return to a stock exhaust would give you the improvement that myself and others have experienced from the Alta intake. It's not a matter of too much air in, but not enough back pressure to utilize it. Me, I'm having the pulley put on at Helix tomorrow..can't wait. The exhaust, however will stay stock. Perry 2003 Chili Red/White S 17"/Performance/ Luxury /Cold Alta Mini Antenna Alta Intake Helix Installed Pulley Helix Installed H&R sport springs A ZERO problem car

Oct 22nd, 2003, 12:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DrkSlvrS Does the Alta CAI have a C.A.R.B. sticker on it? So far there's not a CARB cert for any mods. Unless you count the JCW kit.

Oct 22nd, 2003, 12:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
GMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Connecticut Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 7,173 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Perry Me, I'm having the pulley put on at Helix tomorrow..can't wait. Perry Say howdy to Eric for me! What a great place to get a mod done! NY/NE Mod

Oct 22nd, 2003, 12:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Perry <For performance there wasn't much difference. My Alta came with the large diameter TB hose and I think this may flow too much for my car> I'd wager that a return to a stock exhaust would give you the improvement that myself and others have experienced from the Alta intake. It's not a matter of too much air in, but not enough back pressure to utilize it. Me, I'm having the pulley put on at Helix tomorrow..can't wait. The exhaust, however will stay stock. Perry There is probably some truth to that but I'm not giving up the gains the exhaust gives me. I wish Helix was closer. 5 1/2 hours one way is too much for a day trip. That's where I want to get mine done though. Good luck and post some feedback info.

Oct 22nd, 2003, 02:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
GMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Connecticut Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 7,173 Offline	Yeah and look out for the even smaller 17%er (or was it 19?) I saw at Ocktcooperfest. Good thing about Helix's is that the size is relatively easily swapped. NY/NE Mod

Oct 24th, 2003, 04:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
scpaul MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Taipei Local Time: 05:50 PM Posts: 149 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave This thread Doing both maos at once will make it hard to tell where the improvement comes from but I'm thinking the biggest boost will come from your intercooler. Like I said above the change from the BMP was minimal. If you have a pulley you'll be doing good. obehave, I put Alta top mount intercooler & the oil can today, it does improve a lot. I feel like I have 7 shift gears now . I will put the Alta intake along with 61mm TB next week, will update the post then.

Oct 24th, 2003, 07:00 AM	#18 (permalink)
lex76 MINI LOVER Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Padova,Italy Local Time: 11:50 AM Posts: 147 Offline	Is it true??? DOes the BMP air intake give you a gain of 12 bhp? Cause some sites only give it a gain of 6! My car - THE BEAST - A BESTIA

Nov 25th, 2003, 05:56 AM	#19 (permalink)
red03miniS MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Local Time: 09:50 AM Posts: 849 Offline	bmp or tyhpoon? 2003 CR MCS and 2007 CR MCS (on order)

Nov 25th, 2003, 02:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:50 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by scpaul obehave, I put Alta top mount intercooler & the oil can today, it does improve a lot. I feel like I have 7 shift gears now . I will put the Alta intake along with 61mm TB next week, will update the post then. Very nice. Definitely up some info when your other mods are done. I'd be interested. I'm looking for the pulley next. Unfortunately that IC upgrade is a little too rich for me.

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