MINI2

minimatt · Feb 25th, 2002, 07:10 AM

www.germanformula.net are offering a turbo conversion, 6 speed gearbox and 4x4 conversions for the Cooper. It'll make it 260bhp+. Does anyone know if that will damage the engine or should it be ok?

Dom · Feb 25th, 2002, 04:58 PM

I'd expect that to include new pistons and all, else it wouldn't take too long to damage standard parts - especially with the kind of pressure turbos produce...

Dom

smiffy · Feb 26th, 2002, 03:32 PM

So do you need all that power to drive quickly when the MINI develops faults in the engine

minimatt · Feb 27th, 2002, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smiffy
So do you need all that power to drive quickly when the MINI develops faults in the engine

I'm not gonna get the conversion done, i'd probably go flying off the road!!! - just wondered what the consequences would be...

GTT 280 · Feb 27th, 2002, 07:42 AM

I'll be converting to 260BHP.

Nice touch.

Damo · Feb 27th, 2002, 07:59 AM

Wow! That must be one hell of a conversion? Have they seen the rear suspension on a mini? They'd have to redesign the whole back end of the thing surely, and god knows what that would do that gorgeous handling.

I have to say when I was in one of my daydreaming days and looking at a Renault Clio Cosworth, (They put in a Sierra Saphire Cosworth Engine and 4WD transmission) that I wondered if it would be possible to do 4WD on a Mini, then I looked at the suspension (on a detailed model) and thought, nope not possible. These guys must be good or mad!

minimatt · Feb 27th, 2002, 08:06 AM

i've checked the site again and it's actually an AWD - All Wheel Drive conversion - sounds pretty similar to 4WD - or is it??

SemiImbecille · Feb 27th, 2002, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AV51HCC
i've checked the site again and it's actually an AWD - All Wheel Drive conversion - sounds pretty similar to 4WD - or is it??

Same **** diffrent name

Damo · Feb 27th, 2002, 08:13 AM

Well no doubt I may get shot down now, but the last time I checked the mini had 4 wheels so AWD is the same as 4wd

Then again maybe there is a differance gearbox wise or summat else that distinguishes 4wd and awd. Thinking of it I think AWD is associated with a car being 4WD ALL the time as oopsed to 4x4's that only use 4wd when you go off road (due to the lack of a middle differential)

noahe · Feb 27th, 2002, 11:38 AM

Crazy. I think I'd like just the AWD conversion in a few years for our Cooper S on order.

Keith · Feb 28th, 2002, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damo
Well no doubt I may get shot down now, but the last time I checked the mini had 4 wheels so AWD is the same as 4wd

I don't know if it is just US terminology but AWD is full-time 4WD with a center differential. 4WD lacks the center differential so has to be switched to 2WD (usually by disconnecting the drive to the front wheels) when not driving on slippery stuff or pulling tree stumps.

Keith · Feb 28th, 2002, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damo
Wow! That must be one hell of a conversion? Have they seen the rear suspension on a mini? They'd have to redesign the whole back end of the thing surely, and god knows what that would do that gorgeous handling.

I though the rear suspension was based on the E46. If true, that can handle the M3's power so 260hp should not be a problem.

Damo · Mar 1st, 2002, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith

I though the rear suspension was based on the E46. If true, that can handle the M3's power so 260hp should not be a problem.

Wasn't on about it not handling the power. I think the normal FWD could handle 260! Probably!

no I was on about the suspension at he back. they'd have to make com7pletly differant trainling arms or whatever.

I was just thinking the 7price for it would outweight the benefits (i.e. you could buy an im7preza)

just a thought anyway!

DAMN THIS SODDING 7P KEY!!!!

Feb 25th, 2002, 07:10 AM	#1
minimatt MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cambridgeshire, Engl Local Time: 09:24 PM Posts: 323 Offline	260BHP Cooper Turbo www.germanformula.net are offering a turbo conversion, 6 speed gearbox and 4x4 conversions for the Cooper. It'll make it 260bhp+. Does anyone know if that will damage the engine or should it be ok?

Feb 26th, 2002, 03:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 09:24 PM Posts: 5,778 Offline	So do you need all that power to drive quickly when the MINI develops faults in the engine S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

Feb 27th, 2002, 07:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 10:24 PM Posts: 2,471 Offline	In 3 years I'll be converting to 260BHP. Nice touch.

Feb 27th, 2002, 07:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 10:24 PM Posts: 10,587 Offline	Wow! That must be one hell of a conversion? Have they seen the rear suspension on a mini? They'd have to redesign the whole back end of the thing surely, and god knows what that would do that gorgeous handling. I have to say when I was in one of my daydreaming days and looking at a Renault Clio Cosworth, (They put in a Sierra Saphire Cosworth Engine and 4WD transmission) that I wondered if it would be possible to do 4WD on a Mini, then I looked at the suspension (on a detailed model) and thought, nope not possible. These guys must be good or mad! North West Rolling Road Day 26th July LINK NOW FIXED!

Feb 27th, 2002, 08:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 10:24 PM Posts: 10,587 Offline	Well no doubt I may get shot down now, but the last time I checked the mini had 4 wheels so AWD is the same as 4wd Then again maybe there is a differance gearbox wise or summat else that distinguishes 4wd and awd. Thinking of it I think AWD is associated with a car being 4WD ALL the time as oopsed to 4x4's that only use 4wd when you go off road (due to the lack of a middle differential) North West Rolling Road Day 26th July LINK NOW FIXED!

MINI2

Fuel for your MINI obsession

From air-filters to exhausts and all in between, discuss them here

Today
Sponsors	Sponsored Links Registered members do not see Google Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts. Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum

Feb 25th, 2002, 04:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 10:24 PM Posts: 8,543 Offline	I'd expect that to include new pistons and all, else it wouldn't take too long to damage standard parts - especially with the kind of pressure turbos produce... Dom

Feb 27th, 2002, 04:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
minimatt MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cambridgeshire, Engl Local Time: 09:24 PM Posts: 323 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by smiffy So do you need all that power to drive quickly when the MINI develops faults in the engine I'm not gonna get the conversion done, i'd probably go flying off the road!!! - just wondered what the consequences would be...

Feb 27th, 2002, 08:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
minimatt MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cambridgeshire, Engl Local Time: 09:24 PM Posts: 323 Offline	i've checked the site again and it's actually an AWD - All Wheel Drive conversion - sounds pretty similar to 4WD - or is it??

Feb 27th, 2002, 08:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
SemiImbecille MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Stockholm Local Time: 11:24 PM Posts: 61 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by AV51HCC i've checked the site again and it's actually an AWD - All Wheel Drive conversion - sounds pretty similar to 4WD - or is it?? Same **** diffrent name

Feb 27th, 2002, 11:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
noahe MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Local Time: 04:24 PM Posts: 1,639 Offline	Crazy. I think I'd like just the AWD conversion in a few years for our Cooper S on order.

Feb 28th, 2002, 09:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Keith MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SW Florida Local Time: 09:24 PM Posts: 687 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Damo Well no doubt I may get shot down now, but the last time I checked the mini had 4 wheels so AWD is the same as 4wd I don't know if it is just US terminology but AWD is full-time 4WD with a center differential. 4WD lacks the center differential so has to be switched to 2WD (usually by disconnecting the drive to the front wheels) when not driving on slippery stuff or pulling tree stumps.

Feb 28th, 2002, 09:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Keith MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SW Florida Local Time: 09:24 PM Posts: 687 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Damo Wow! That must be one hell of a conversion? Have they seen the rear suspension on a mini? They'd have to redesign the whole back end of the thing surely, and god knows what that would do that gorgeous handling. I though the rear suspension was based on the E46. If true, that can handle the M3's power so 260hp should not be a problem.

Mar 1st, 2002, 06:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 10:24 PM Posts: 10,587 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Keith I though the rear suspension was based on the E46. If true, that can handle the M3's power so 260hp should not be a problem. Wasn't on about it not handling the power. I think the normal FWD could handle 260! Probably! no I was on about the suspension at he back. they'd have to make com7pletly differant trainling arms or whatever. I was just thinking the 7price for it would outweight the benefits (i.e. you could buy an im7preza) just a thought anyway! DAMN THIS SODDING 7P KEY!!!! North West Rolling Road Day 26th July LINK NOW FIXED!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Cooper turbo?	MINI_Chris	MINI Cooper	3	Oct 19th, 2006 11:53 AM
clutch for 260bhp	GTT 280	Engine & Drivetrain Tuning	2	Jun 22nd, 2006 09:40 AM
Turbo for cooper	Ministi	Engine & Drivetrain Tuning	14	Jan 14th, 2005 02:28 PM
260BHP+ Cooper S	CooperS+	Engine & Drivetrain Tuning	9	Dec 9th, 2004 06:12 PM
Cooper Turbo	supercuper	Engine & Drivetrain Tuning	5	Dec 11th, 2002 05:57 AM