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Corleone · Mar 3rd, 2002, 03:22 PM

I just ordered the Pipercross Induction Kit for my Cooper and I should be receiving it any day now. But, I can't wait to test it, So if any of you has it could you tell me about it, how it reacted, hoe it sounds and all...

daxler · Mar 5th, 2002, 03:45 AM

Fitted it and loving it! - see induction kit and exhaust thread.

Hoganscrogan · Mar 5th, 2002, 11:21 AM

Fitted the Pipercross the other day and am loving it!!

Transforms the sound of the Mini into what it should have been. Not too loud tho'

I'll post a fitting guide ASAP (was a pain to fit as instructions were so bad)

monsta · Mar 5th, 2002, 11:30 AM

What do you reckon to the changes in peformance though??

zoooooom · Mar 5th, 2002, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by monsta
What do you reckon to the changes in peformance though??

Its up 12BHP.but u don't get fancy badges or exhaust/keyring though.

Hoganscrogan · Mar 5th, 2002, 11:59 AM

Feels more 'eager' at the top. Seemed abit strangled past 5,000 rpm before.
Maybe a 'little' more responsive at low revs too.

You sound like you are going faster that's for sure!!

Corleone · Mar 5th, 2002, 06:30 PM

Hi Hoganscrogan !

Is it really necessary to take out the whole air filter box? That's gonna make it harder to install and uninstall every time I take it to the service...By the way, how much HP have you gained, honestly? Have you felt the difference?

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoganscrogan
Fitted the Pipercross the other day and am loving it!!

Transforms the sound of the Mini into what it should have been. Not too loud tho'

I'll post a fitting guide ASAP (was a pain to fit as instructions were so bad)

Hoganscrogan · Mar 6th, 2002, 06:46 AM

Corelone
Yes you have to remove the old airbox - only takes 5 minutes though, VERY easy once you have done it the first time. As for doing it for every service - well thats not exactly an everyday thing is it?! Once or twice a year at most I'd think. Anyway if you are looking at a new camshaft and a port polish I don't think you would need to bother removing the new airfilter!

Powerwise Idon't know how much it adds. Feels and sounds better and the original airbox is VERY restrictive (just take the top off and have a look).

Corleone · Mar 6th, 2002, 11:15 AM

Thanks for the Info Hoganscrogan !

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoganscrogan
Corelone
Yes you have to remove the old airbox - only takes 5 minutes though, VERY easy once you have done it the first time. As for doing it for every service - well thats not exactly an everyday thing is it?! Once or twice a year at most I'd think. Anyway if you are looking at a new camshaft and a port polish I don't think you would need to bother removing the new airfilter!

Powerwise Idon't know how much it adds. Feels and sounds better and the original airbox is VERY restrictive (just take the top off and have a look).

ADO15 · Mar 6th, 2002, 07:48 PM

How much does this kit cost and what does it consist of?

Also, any links etc. to retailers would be nice..

Cheers!

Der Blue Potato · Mar 7th, 2002, 09:51 AM

To me - those photos show a very restrictive intake track. It looks like a 90 degree bend that the air needs to curve around to get into the engine.

I work for a Miata performance shop and we have sdesigned a few of these (for Miatas) and I would think that there is a better way to get more air in a direct line.

Don't get me wrong, it IS a very beatuiful kit and I am sure the sound is breathtaking, but if I get a chance to design one with our shop, I will make sure we do not use a bend like that - especially if the goal is to get more cooler air into that little engine.

monsta · Mar 7th, 2002, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Der Blue Potato
To me - those photos show a very restrictive intake track. It looks like a 90 degree bend that the air needs to curve around to get into the engine.

I noticed that, I hope the K&N one isn't as angular when it is available...

Hoganscrogan · Mar 8th, 2002, 06:18 AM

Please remember this is 1.6l mini me are talking about !! Kink or no kink I don't think you would feel the difference

monsta · Mar 8th, 2002, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoganscrogan
Please remember this is 1.6l mini me are talking about !! Kink or no kink I don't think you would feel the difference

I think you'd be surprised

Hoganscrogan · Mar 8th, 2002, 06:50 AM

He he - I doubt it

ADO15 · Mar 8th, 2002, 01:17 PM

Anyone got a picture of how the filter look like on the *inside*? Any ram stacks or stub-stacks in it?

Hoganscrogan: Have you ever tuned an original Mini?
You'd be supprised how much difference a filter, the ram-stacks inside it and the air-intake can make.

smiffy · Mar 8th, 2002, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoganscrogan
Please remember this is 1.6l mini me are talking about !! Kink or no kink I don't think you would feel the difference

Trust me, you would

Had a K&N filter on my Fiesta, sound nicer & seemed to increase the power, plus it hardly, if even needs to be replaced

Skinnyrunt · Mar 8th, 2002, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zoooooom

Its up 12BHP.but u don't get fancy badges or exhaust/keyring though.

Are you sure about this it seems like an awful lot from an induction kit. Was it put on a rolling road before adding the kit as the cooper is supposed to have more than the quoted 115bhp isn't it?

Simon Jackson · Mar 9th, 2002, 08:24 AM

We have now had one of these on the rollers, work very well when the car is cold, but not as good once the car has warmed up. Mini Mania are delevoping a true cold air intake, we should have samples through very shortly!

zoooooom · Mar 9th, 2002, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by marksminimotor

Are you sure about this it seems like an awful lot from an induction kit. Was it put on a rolling road before adding the kit as the cooper is supposed to have more than the quoted 115bhp isn't it?

This was a joke aimed at the works conversion but sadly it shot clean over your head.

Mar 3rd, 2002, 03:22 PM	#1
Corleone MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Local Time: 12:39 AM Posts: 104 Offline	Has anyone installed a Pipercross Induction Kit for their Cooper? I just ordered the Pipercross Induction Kit for my Cooper and I should be receiving it any day now. But, I can't wait to test it, So if any of you has it could you tell me about it, how it reacted, hoe it sounds and all...

Mar 5th, 2002, 11:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 4,669 Offline	What do you reckon to the changes in peformance though?? the MINI has gone...

Mar 5th, 2002, 06:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Corleone MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Local Time: 12:39 AM Posts: 104 Offline	Is it that hard? Hi Hoganscrogan ! Is it really necessary to take out the whole air filter box? That's gonna make it harder to install and uninstall every time I take it to the service...By the way, how much HP have you gained, honestly? Have you felt the difference? Quote: Originally posted by Hoganscrogan Fitted the Pipercross the other day and am loving it!! Transforms the sound of the Mini into what it should have been. Not too loud tho' I'll post a fitting guide ASAP (was a pain to fit as instructions were so bad)

Mar 6th, 2002, 06:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hoganscrogan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Leeds Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Corelone Yes you have to remove the old airbox - only takes 5 minutes though, VERY easy once you have done it the first time. As for doing it for every service - well thats not exactly an everyday thing is it?! Once or twice a year at most I'd think. Anyway if you are looking at a new camshaft and a port polish I don't think you would need to bother removing the new airfilter! Powerwise Idon't know how much it adds. Feels and sounds better and the original airbox is VERY restrictive (just take the top off and have a look). Last edited by Hoganscrogan : Mar 6th, 2002 at 06:51 AM.

Mar 6th, 2002, 07:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
ADO15 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 232 Offline	How much does this kit cost and what does it consist of? Also, any links etc. to retailers would be nice.. Cheers! "Life begins @ 7,000 rpm's"

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Mar 5th, 2002, 03:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
daxler MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 76 Offline	Fitted it and loving it! - see induction kit and exhaust thread.

Mar 5th, 2002, 11:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hoganscrogan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Leeds Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Fitted the Pipercross the other day and am loving it!! Transforms the sound of the Mini into what it should have been. Not too loud tho' I'll post a fitting guide ASAP (was a pain to fit as instructions were so bad)

Mar 5th, 2002, 11:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
zoooooom MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Aberdeen,Scotland Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 2,467 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by monsta What do you reckon to the changes in peformance though?? Its up 12BHP.but u don't get fancy badges or exhaust/keyring though.

Mar 5th, 2002, 11:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hoganscrogan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Leeds Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Feels more 'eager' at the top. Seemed abit strangled past 5,000 rpm before. Maybe a 'little' more responsive at low revs too. You sound like you are going faster that's for sure!!

Mar 6th, 2002, 11:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Corleone MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Local Time: 12:39 AM Posts: 104 Offline	Thanks for the Info Hoganscrogan ! Quote: Originally posted by Hoganscrogan Corelone Yes you have to remove the old airbox - only takes 5 minutes though, VERY easy once you have done it the first time. As for doing it for every service - well thats not exactly an everyday thing is it?! Once or twice a year at most I'd think. Anyway if you are looking at a new camshaft and a port polish I don't think you would need to bother removing the new airfilter! Powerwise Idon't know how much it adds. Feels and sounds better and the original airbox is VERY restrictive (just take the top off and have a look).

Mar 7th, 2002, 09:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Der Blue Potato MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Local Time: 06:39 PM Posts: 197 Offline	Talk about restrictive To me - those photos show a very restrictive intake track. It looks like a 90 degree bend that the air needs to curve around to get into the engine. I work for a Miata performance shop and we have sdesigned a few of these (for Miatas) and I would think that there is a better way to get more air in a direct line. Don't get me wrong, it IS a very beatuiful kit and I am sure the sound is breathtaking, but if I get a chance to design one with our shop, I will make sure we do not use a bend like that - especially if the goal is to get more cooler air into that little engine. RSpeed Mini * Mini Performance and Accessories from around the world * http://www.rspeed.net

Mar 7th, 2002, 10:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 4,669 Offline	Re: Talk about restrictive Quote: Originally posted by Der Blue Potato To me - those photos show a very restrictive intake track. It looks like a 90 degree bend that the air needs to curve around to get into the engine. I noticed that, I hope the K&N one isn't as angular when it is available... the MINI has gone...

Mar 8th, 2002, 06:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hoganscrogan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Leeds Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Please remember this is 1.6l mini me are talking about !! Kink or no kink I don't think you would feel the difference

Mar 8th, 2002, 06:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 4,669 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Hoganscrogan Please remember this is 1.6l mini me are talking about !! Kink or no kink I don't think you would feel the difference I think you'd be surprised the MINI has gone...

Mar 8th, 2002, 06:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
Hoganscrogan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Leeds Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 23 Offline	He he - I doubt it

Mar 8th, 2002, 01:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
ADO15 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 232 Offline	Anyone got a picture of how the filter look like on the inside? Any ram stacks or stub-stacks in it? Hoganscrogan: Have you ever tuned an original Mini? You'd be supprised how much difference a filter, the ram-stacks inside it and the air-intake can make. "Life begins @ 7,000 rpm's"

Mar 8th, 2002, 01:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 10:39 PM Posts: 5,778 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Hoganscrogan Please remember this is 1.6l mini me are talking about !! Kink or no kink I don't think you would feel the difference Trust me, you would Had a K&N filter on my Fiesta, sound nicer & seemed to increase the power, plus it hardly, if even needs to be replaced S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

Mar 8th, 2002, 05:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
Skinnyrunt M2 Bapmaster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cheshire/staffs bord Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 3,145 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by zoooooom Its up 12BHP.but u don't get fancy badges or exhaust/keyring though. Are you sure about this it seems like an awful lot from an induction kit. Was it put on a rolling road before adding the kit as the cooper is supposed to have more than the quoted 115bhp isn't it?

Mar 9th, 2002, 08:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
Simon Jackson MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 450 Offline	Air filter kits We have now had one of these on the rollers, work very well when the car is cold, but not as good once the car has warmed up. Mini Mania are delevoping a true cold air intake, we should have samples through very shortly!

Mar 9th, 2002, 02:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
zoooooom MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Aberdeen,Scotland Local Time: 11:39 PM Posts: 2,467 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by marksminimotor Are you sure about this it seems like an awful lot from an induction kit. Was it put on a rolling road before adding the kit as the cooper is supposed to have more than the quoted 115bhp isn't it? This was a joke aimed at the works conversion but sadly it shot clean over your head.

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