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JCampos · Apr 28th, 2004, 07:01 PM

I am considering purchasing a short shifter for my '04 MCS. Now, the question is that since I dont even HAVE my car yet, I was wondering if other people think that this is a worthwhile mod.

I would just wait to get the car and decide if I want it or not, but that would require me to take the newly installed exhaust back OFF the car to install the ss kit.

So should I spend the $50 for the SS or save it for pizza and beer?

obehave · Apr 28th, 2004, 09:33 PM

IMO. If you're getting the $50 add on bit it's barely worth the time and effort.
Go ahead and buy the whole arm like a ProMINI/B&M kit.
Should be out for the '04 very soon.

I have one on my '02 and really like it.

6f7 · Apr 28th, 2004, 09:34 PM

If you get the B&M--do it!

JCampos · Apr 29th, 2004, 06:23 AM

Why is it barely worth it? I would get the Helix shifter, which has a greater reduction in throw that either the B&M or the Promini while also retaining the normal height. However, its only $50 compared to the ones youve just shown :\. Whats the difference? Also, have you heard anything about Alta's?

Silver Bullet · Apr 29th, 2004, 11:19 AM

I got the alta one. It's adjustable from 0% to 45%!
Id also get the full short shifter kit (as i have allready)
It's no problem at all to fit as long as you are ok with taking the exhaust off?
But yes if your going through the trouble of the add on bit you may as well do it the right way with a ProMINI/B&M kit or the Alta

Either way theyr all

obehave · Apr 29th, 2004, 03:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JCampos

Why is it barely worth it? I would get the Helix shifter, which has a greater reduction in throw that either the B&M or the Promini while also retaining the normal height. However, its only $50 compared to the ones youve just shown :\. Whats the difference? Also, have you heard anything about Alta's?

Like Silver Bullet said you have to do most of the work, although honestly changing the shift arm out is definitely hard that just adding a nub to the end, so go ahead and do the whole thing.
To me the advantages are
You now have one machined piece. It's stronger, cannot seperate or come loose
With the Alta you have adjustability(wasn't around when I bought mine or I may have gotten one)
Looks very nice
You have the option of installing solid bushings.

Like I said though, this is just my opinion and the reason I went with the full stick.

pocket_rocket · Apr 29th, 2004, 03:35 PM

Anyone heard anything about the new Rogue Short Shifter? Its apparently pretty new to the market.. www.rogueengineering.com

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

Like Silver Bullet said you have to do most of the work, although honestly changing the shift arm out is definitely hard that just adding a nub to the end, so go ahead and do the whole thing.
To me the advantages are
You now have one machined piece. It's stronger, cannot seperate or come loose
With the Alta you have adjustability(wasn't around when I bought mine or I may have gotten one)
Looks very nice
You have the option of installing solid bushings.

Like I said though, this is just my opinion and the reason I went with the full stick.

obehave · Apr 29th, 2004, 04:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by pocket_rocket

Anyone heard anything about the new Rogue Short Shifter? Its apparently pretty new to the market.. www.rogueengineering.com

That's one of the short add-ons I was talking about. A perfectly fine product.
I just prefer the whole stick.
Looks nice, uses the Whelan or aftermarket threaded knobs.
Look how pretty.

6f7 · Apr 29th, 2004, 06:20 PM

Another advantage of the B&M is that it requires no modifications to the dust cover.

JCampos · Apr 29th, 2004, 06:29 PM

Alright, thanks for the input. Ill wait until Alta comes out with theirs for the 04, even tho I wanted to get this done at the same time I changed my exhaust.

obehave · Apr 29th, 2004, 06:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JCampos

Alright, thanks for the input. Ill wait until Alta comes out with theirs for the 04, even tho I wanted to get this done at the same time I changed my exhaust.

Post some pics when you're done.
Ilike a lot of Alta's stuff and I'd like to know how this goes.

I'll be sticking with mine though.

Apr 28th, 2004, 07:01 PM	#1
JCampos MINIaholic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Santa Clara Local Time: 02:58 AM Posts: 205 Offline	Short Shifter: To do or Not to do? I am considering purchasing a short shifter for my '04 MCS. Now, the question is that since I dont even HAVE my car yet, I was wondering if other people think that this is a worthwhile mod. I would just wait to get the car and decide if I want it or not, but that would require me to take the newly installed exhaust back OFF the car to install the ss kit. So should I spend the $50 for the SS or save it for pizza and beer?

Apr 29th, 2004, 11:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Silver Bullet Keeping It Real Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Swansea Local Time: 10:58 AM Posts: 93 Offline	I got the alta one. It's adjustable from 0% to 45%! Id also get the full short shifter kit (as i have allready) It's no problem at all to fit as long as you are ok with taking the exhaust off? But yes if your going through the trouble of the add on bit you may as well do it the right way with a ProMINI/B&M kit or the Alta Either way theyr all Pipercross Induction, New MINI Sport Pulley, New Minisport Twin Exhaust, Clear Rear Lights, Carbonfibre Hood Scoop, Alta Oil Catch Can, Hamman Splitter, Alta Short Shifter,BBR Scoop and Growing (janspeed manifold, Alta Intercooler)

Apr 29th, 2004, 03:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
pocket_rocket Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bucks County, PA Local Time: 05:58 AM Posts: 435 Offline	Rogue Anyone heard anything about the new Rogue Short Shifter? Its apparently pretty new to the market.. www.rogueengineering.com Quote: Originally Posted by obehave Like Silver Bullet said you have to do most of the work, although honestly changing the shift arm out is definitely hard that just adding a nub to the end, so go ahead and do the whole thing. To me the advantages are You now have one machined piece. It's stronger, cannot seperate or come loose With the Alta you have adjustability(wasn't around when I bought mine or I may have gotten one) Looks very nice You have the option of installing solid bushings. Like I said though, this is just my opinion and the reason I went with the full stick. "Blitzen" 04 MCS Electric Blue / White over Lapis Blue Interior "Gina" 06 Electric Blue Mistubishi Evolution IX Click --> <-- for My MINIs On Top Gallery.

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obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:58 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by pocket_rocket Anyone heard anything about the new Rogue Short Shifter? Its apparently pretty new to the market.. www.rogueengineering.com That's one of the short add-ons I was talking about. A perfectly fine product. I just prefer the whole stick. Looks nice, uses the Whelan or aftermarket threaded knobs. Look how pretty. Attached Thumbnails

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Apr 28th, 2004, 09:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:58 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	IMO. If you're getting the $50 add on bit it's barely worth the time and effort. Go ahead and buy the whole arm like a ProMINI/B&M kit. Should be out for the '04 very soon. I have one on my '02 and really like it.

Apr 28th, 2004, 09:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
6f7 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Local Time: 03:58 AM Posts: 264 Offline	If you get the B&M--do it!

Apr 29th, 2004, 06:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
JCampos MINIaholic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Santa Clara Local Time: 02:58 AM Posts: 205 Offline	Why is it barely worth it? I would get the Helix shifter, which has a greater reduction in throw that either the B&M or the Promini while also retaining the normal height. However, its only $50 compared to the ones youve just shown :\. Whats the difference? Also, have you heard anything about Alta's?

Apr 29th, 2004, 03:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:58 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by JCampos Why is it barely worth it? I would get the Helix shifter, which has a greater reduction in throw that either the B&M or the Promini while also retaining the normal height. However, its only $50 compared to the ones youve just shown :\. Whats the difference? Also, have you heard anything about Alta's? Like Silver Bullet said you have to do most of the work, although honestly changing the shift arm out is definitely hard that just adding a nub to the end, so go ahead and do the whole thing. To me the advantages are You now have one machined piece. It's stronger, cannot seperate or come loose With the Alta you have adjustability(wasn't around when I bought mine or I may have gotten one) Looks very nice You have the option of installing solid bushings. Like I said though, this is just my opinion and the reason I went with the full stick.

Apr 29th, 2004, 06:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
6f7 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Local Time: 03:58 AM Posts: 264 Offline	Another advantage of the B&M is that it requires no modifications to the dust cover.

Apr 29th, 2004, 06:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
JCampos MINIaholic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Santa Clara Local Time: 02:58 AM Posts: 205 Offline	Alright, thanks for the input. Ill wait until Alta comes out with theirs for the 04, even tho I wanted to get this done at the same time I changed my exhaust.

Apr 29th, 2004, 06:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 05:58 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by JCampos Alright, thanks for the input. Ill wait until Alta comes out with theirs for the 04, even tho I wanted to get this done at the same time I changed my exhaust. Post some pics when you're done. Ilike a lot of Alta's stuff and I'd like to know how this goes. I'll be sticking with mine though.

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