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G&BCOOPERS · Apr 29th, 2004, 05:38 PM

I have a Cooper S and want a bit more power. Its a great car but needs a bit more. I've looked at the Works kit but feel for the power increase they are asking silly money (just to protect your warranty). I appreciate the work and parts involved but it does seem over prced. The BBR conversions put the Works to shame in terms of performance and cost. However......

I recently discovered a company offering a remap for approx £300 (see link below) has anybody driven one of these converted cars or own one.

What are they like
Can they do what they say they can
Are they going to put the engine under too much stress with this type of conversion.

Basically what i want to know - Is it worth it, it seems to good to be true. (196 bhp for £300 - just a tenth of the works kit). Also they can put your original map back into the car for servicing and then reinstall the modified map again.

http://speed-buster.moonfruit.com/minituning

noddyrocket · Apr 29th, 2004, 07:01 PM

Umm..

I have and would recommend the AMD stage 1 on my MCS. That consists of a 15% pulley and the oneclick unit which enables you to swap between standard and modified maps. The result is a much smoother car that produces 198bhp!

Does this conversion include a pulley? If it does not i would doubt they would get 40ish bhp increase from just an ECU map...

GRSmotorsport · Apr 29th, 2004, 07:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by noddyrocket

Umm..

I have and would recommend the AMD stage 1 on my MCS. That consists of a 15% pulley and the oneclick unit which enables you to swap between standard and modified maps. The result is a much smoother car that produces 198bhp!

Does this conversion include a pulley? If it does not i would doubt they would get 40ish bhp increase from just an ECU map...

Totally agree AMD all the way

G&BCOOPERS · Apr 29th, 2004, 07:51 PM

Interesting, they seem to think they can get the increase with just a remap and no pulley. What difference does the pulley make besides a power increase.

Did you look at the web link I included, what do you think?
Have you had any problems with servicing your modified car?
Also how much was the Stage 1 conversion you mentioned from AmD?

Paul · Apr 29th, 2004, 08:42 PM

It depends what they've done with the map, but it sounds like a very big leap, more than the previous max I've seen of about 30bhp. (Can't recall there, MINIAC posted it before). It does sound like it would be pushing the limit, but then again with the "usual" (15%) pulley and ECU mod you can get quite a variety of results, from under 200 hp to about 220 hp, and I'm sure a lot of the variety you see has to do with the mapping.

MINIAC · Apr 29th, 2004, 08:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

It depends what they've done with the map, but it sounds like a very big leap, more than the previous max I've seen of about 30bhp. (Can't recall there, MINIAC posted it before).

Actually, it was 22bhp

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...756#post827756

minibee · Apr 29th, 2004, 09:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by G&BCOOPERS

I have a Cooper S and want a bit more power. Its a great car but needs a bit more. I've looked at the Works kit but feel for the power increase they are asking silly money (just to protect your warranty). I appreciate the work and parts involved but it does seem over prced. The BBR conversions put the Works to shame in terms of performance and cost. However......

I recently discovered a company offering a remap for approx £300 (see link below) has anybody driven one of these converted cars or own one.

What are they like
Can they do what they say they can
Are they going to put the engine under too much stress with this type of conversion.

Basically what i want to know - Is it worth it, it seems to good to be true. (196 bhp for £300 - just a tenth of the works kit). Also they can put your original map back into the car for servicing and then reinstall the modified map again.

http://speed-buster.moonfruit.com/minituning

Hmmmmmmm
Looks good

but will it work

G&BCOOPERS · Apr 29th, 2004, 09:23 PM

I think the only thing is to get a guarantee from them that if it "doesn't do what it says on the tin" when its put on a rolling road then they'd have to give a refund and return the car to original?

G&BCOOPERS · Apr 29th, 2004, 09:26 PM

I think i will ask them for soem sort of proof i.e a dyno to see if its possible. What do you think?

minibee · Apr 29th, 2004, 09:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by G&BCOOPERS

I think i will ask them for soem sort of proof i.e a dyno to see if its possible. What do you think?

yes

go for it

would like one myself at that price (if it works)

AMD help us

Neil

GRSmotorsport · Apr 29th, 2004, 09:51 PM

I'm going to AMD uk tomorrow afternoon (Friday) so I'll ask a few questions

Paul · Apr 29th, 2004, 10:51 PM

The best thing is to take a "suck and see" attitude. Always try before you buy where possible, and if it's not possible, use extreme caution/take in a LOT of advice. There's more than just pure top BHP to consider.

G&BCOOPERS · Apr 30th, 2004, 07:37 AM

Amd may be a bit bias towards ther own conversion and say its not possible but i would be interested to see what they tell you. The Speed-buster conversion doesn't use a new pulley its purely down to the remap. I will ask them for a dyno and post it here if i can get one.

G&BCOOPERS · Apr 30th, 2004, 07:48 AM

I agree I think its a case of them having to prove they can do what they say before i part with any cash. Also try the converted car before i pay to see if its a worth while conversion.

Your right BHP is not everything, theres more to considor and the only way to find out is to drive the car once the work has been done. Will let everyone know if its any good if i have it done.

I would still be interested to hear from anyone who has had a speed buster conversion on their Cooper S.

minibee · Apr 30th, 2004, 04:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport

I'm going to AMD uk tomorrow afternoon (Friday) so I'll ask a few questions

And we all need more info please on AMD

Neil..

badboyzbadboyz · May 3rd, 2004, 04:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by noddyrocket

I have and would recommend the AMD stage 1 on my MCS. That consists of a 15% pulley and the oneclick unit which enables you to swap between standard and modified maps. The result is a much smoother car that produces 198bhp!

Do you have a website for AMD and this upgrade ?

Uwe Bollmann · May 3rd, 2004, 04:19 PM

... that should work out if it is well done. Idon't know their product personally, but I can tell from this* german converter - it works!!
*: mth-powerchip.de . check with them, they are really pro!!! The person behind is doing the software for HARTGE. Any more questions??
The site is available in english

minibee · May 3rd, 2004, 04:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Uwe Bollmann

... that should work out if it is well done. Idon't know their product personally, but I can tell from this* german converter - it works!!
*: mth-powerchip.de . check with them, they are really pro!!! The person behind is doing the software for HARTGE. Any more questions??
The site is available in english

Can you post the web address please

Thanks
Neil.....

Uwe Bollmann · May 4th, 2004, 03:29 PM

www.mth-powerchip.de
with regards from uwe

GRSmotorsport · May 4th, 2004, 04:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by badboyzbadboyz

Do you have a website for AMD and this upgrade ?

Here we go www.amdtechnik.com

Apr 29th, 2004, 05:38 PM	#1
G&BCOOPERS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 09:31 AM Posts: 36 Offline	Cooper S re-maping bargain !! I have a Cooper S and want a bit more power. Its a great car but needs a bit more. I've looked at the Works kit but feel for the power increase they are asking silly money (just to protect your warranty). I appreciate the work and parts involved but it does seem over prced. The BBR conversions put the Works to shame in terms of performance and cost. However...... I recently discovered a company offering a remap for approx £300 (see link below) has anybody driven one of these converted cars or own one. What are they like Can they do what they say they can Are they going to put the engine under too much stress with this type of conversion. Basically what i want to know - Is it worth it, it seems to good to be true. (196 bhp for £300 - just a tenth of the works kit). Also they can put your original map back into the car for servicing and then reinstall the modified map again. http://speed-buster.moonfruit.com/minituning

Apr 29th, 2004, 07:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
GRSmotorsport MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yeovil Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 680 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by noddyrocket Umm.. I have and would recommend the AMD stage 1 on my MCS. That consists of a 15% pulley and the oneclick unit which enables you to swap between standard and modified maps. The result is a much smoother car that produces 198bhp! Does this conversion include a pulley? If it does not i would doubt they would get 40ish bhp increase from just an ECU map... Totally agree AMD all the way Graham

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GRSmotorsport MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yeovil Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 680 Offline	I'm going to AMD uk tomorrow afternoon (Friday) so I'll ask a few questions Graham

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GRSmotorsport MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yeovil Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 680 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by badboyzbadboyz Do you have a website for AMD and this upgrade ? Here we go www.amdtechnik.com Graham

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Apr 29th, 2004, 07:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
noddyrocket MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 15 Offline	Umm.. I have and would recommend the AMD stage 1 on my MCS. That consists of a 15% pulley and the oneclick unit which enables you to swap between standard and modified maps. The result is a much smoother car that produces 198bhp! Does this conversion include a pulley? If it does not i would doubt they would get 40ish bhp increase from just an ECU map...

Apr 29th, 2004, 07:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
G&BCOOPERS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 09:31 AM Posts: 36 Offline	Interesting, they seem to think they can get the increase with just a remap and no pulley. What difference does the pulley make besides a power increase. Did you look at the web link I included, what do you think? Have you had any problems with servicing your modified car? Also how much was the Stage 1 conversion you mentioned from AmD?

Apr 29th, 2004, 08:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 40,710 Online	It depends what they've done with the map, but it sounds like a very big leap, more than the previous max I've seen of about 30bhp. (Can't recall there, MINIAC posted it before). It does sound like it would be pushing the limit, but then again with the "usual" (15%) pulley and ECU mod you can get quite a variety of results, from under 200 hp to about 220 hp, and I'm sure a lot of the variety you see has to do with the mapping.

Apr 29th, 2004, 08:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 02:31 AM Posts: 8,463 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett It depends what they've done with the map, but it sounds like a very big leap, more than the previous max I've seen of about 30bhp. (Can't recall there, MINIAC posted it before). Actually, it was 22bhp http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...756#post827756

Apr 29th, 2004, 09:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
minibee up the reds Join Date: May 2003 Location: moving house Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 3,059 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by G&BCOOPERS I have a Cooper S and want a bit more power. Its a great car but needs a bit more. I've looked at the Works kit but feel for the power increase they are asking silly money (just to protect your warranty). I appreciate the work and parts involved but it does seem over prced. The BBR conversions put the Works to shame in terms of performance and cost. However...... I recently discovered a company offering a remap for approx £300 (see link below) has anybody driven one of these converted cars or own one. What are they like Can they do what they say they can Are they going to put the engine under too much stress with this type of conversion. Basically what i want to know - Is it worth it, it seems to good to be true. (196 bhp for £300 - just a tenth of the works kit). Also they can put your original map back into the car for servicing and then reinstall the modified map again. http://speed-buster.moonfruit.com/minituning Hmmmmmmm Looks good but will it work

Apr 29th, 2004, 09:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
G&BCOOPERS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 09:31 AM Posts: 36 Offline	I think the only thing is to get a guarantee from them that if it "doesn't do what it says on the tin" when its put on a rolling road then they'd have to give a refund and return the car to original?

Apr 29th, 2004, 09:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
G&BCOOPERS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 09:31 AM Posts: 36 Offline	I think i will ask them for soem sort of proof i.e a dyno to see if its possible. What do you think?

Apr 29th, 2004, 09:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
minibee up the reds Join Date: May 2003 Location: moving house Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 3,059 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by G&BCOOPERS I think i will ask them for soem sort of proof i.e a dyno to see if its possible. What do you think? yes go for it would like one myself at that price (if it works) AMD help us Neil

Apr 29th, 2004, 10:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 40,710 Online	The best thing is to take a "suck and see" attitude. Always try before you buy where possible, and if it's not possible, use extreme caution/take in a LOT of advice. There's more than just pure top BHP to consider.

Apr 30th, 2004, 07:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
G&BCOOPERS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 09:31 AM Posts: 36 Offline	Amd may be a bit bias towards ther own conversion and say its not possible but i would be interested to see what they tell you. The Speed-buster conversion doesn't use a new pulley its purely down to the remap. I will ask them for a dyno and post it here if i can get one.

Apr 30th, 2004, 07:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
G&BCOOPERS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 09:31 AM Posts: 36 Offline	I agree I think its a case of them having to prove they can do what they say before i part with any cash. Also try the converted car before i pay to see if its a worth while conversion. Your right BHP is not everything, theres more to considor and the only way to find out is to drive the car once the work has been done. Will let everyone know if its any good if i have it done. I would still be interested to hear from anyone who has had a speed buster conversion on their Cooper S.

Apr 30th, 2004, 04:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
minibee up the reds Join Date: May 2003 Location: moving house Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 3,059 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport I'm going to AMD uk tomorrow afternoon (Friday) so I'll ask a few questions And we all need more info please on AMD Neil..

May 3rd, 2004, 04:01 PM	#16 (permalink)
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 09:31 AM Posts: 1,257 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by noddyrocket I have and would recommend the AMD stage 1 on my MCS. That consists of a 15% pulley and the oneclick unit which enables you to swap between standard and modified maps. The result is a much smoother car that produces 198bhp! Do you have a website for AMD and this upgrade ?

May 3rd, 2004, 04:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
Uwe Bollmann MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Weilheim, close to S Local Time: 11:31 AM Posts: 26 Offline	... that should work out if it is well done. Idon't know their product personally, but I can tell from this* german converter - it works!! *: mth-powerchip.de . check with them, they are really pro!!! The person behind is doing the software for HARTGE. Any more questions?? The site is available in english

May 3rd, 2004, 04:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
minibee up the reds Join Date: May 2003 Location: moving house Local Time: 10:31 AM Posts: 3,059 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Uwe Bollmann ... that should work out if it is well done. Idon't know their product personally, but I can tell from this* german converter - it works!! *: mth-powerchip.de . check with them, they are really pro!!! The person behind is doing the software for HARTGE. Any more questions?? The site is available in english Can you post the web address please Thanks Neil.....

May 4th, 2004, 03:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
Uwe Bollmann MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Weilheim, close to S Local Time: 11:31 AM Posts: 26 Offline	www.mth-powerchip.de with regards from uwe

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