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Old Jul 13th, 2004, 11:05 PM   #1
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how can mini s shoot fire?

I'm wondering how can you make a mini cooper s shoot fire from the exhaust. i've seen it done on other cars. it's not those "flame thrower" type kits that require a spark in the tailpipe plus sending unburnt fuel.

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Old Jul 13th, 2004, 11:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i believe with a racing exhaust and manifold (i.e. no cat) the mini will spit flames on over-run but it mite need tuning/chipping to get the extra fueling needed
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Old Jul 13th, 2004, 11:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Silver Black

http://www.digital-bling.com/products.html

http://www.autoloc.com/default.lasso


there are plenty of other sites that sell these, these are just a couple that came up in a search


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Old Jul 13th, 2004, 11:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you do get it fitted make sure the ol smokey bear dont see it I dought they would like it very much



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Old Jul 13th, 2004, 11:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by brmotoringadvisor
http://www.digital-bling.com/products.html

http://www.autoloc.com/default.lasso


there are plenty of other sites that sell these, these are just a couple that came up in a search


fake exhaust flames how sad

if yer gonna have flames comin out at least have them real from yer engine!!!
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Sticking a spark plug in the exhaust will do the trick. Connect it to your battery and it'll ignite the unburnt gases.

Kits can be bought giving you a switch on the dashboard.

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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 05:09 AM   #7 (permalink)
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No way, that's the rice rocketeer's way. You want flames, get a straight exhaust, like a previous post said, not cat converter. Of course, you'll never pass emissions, but you'll get the flames, not to mention an out of this world exhaust note.
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 06:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by LMB
Sticking a spark plug in the exhaust will do the trick. Connect it to your battery and it'll ignite the unburnt gases.

Kits can be bought giving you a switch on the dashboard.

so i would be running rich for the unburnt gas to be present within the exhaust then. and no cat.

i did find something interesting on this though. it's called a REV Limiter by BEE R.

http://www.takakaira.com/performance/main.html

hmm..a quote from the site.

The visual effect of having fire spitting out from the exhaust muffler every time there is a rev cut when the REV LIMITER is installed is not guaranteed by Bee Racing. This is due to the fact that fire would only result during high engine revving, and when the exhaust muffler is warm up, and also when the vehicle exhaust system is without a catalytic converter. Basically, the unrestricted vaporized fuel supply when ignition is cut off is lighted off when it mixes with the air from the engine air intake in the hot exhaust system. The hot temperature from the exhaust system is the catalyst that ignites the air-fuel combination in the absence of the ignition sparks.


might try it when my warranty wears out. 600 miles to go......

thanks for the help everyone.
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 06:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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whats this doing in the performance forum? looks like its time we added another labeled "Rice" hahaha
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:13 AM   #10 (permalink)
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this does look good thou, and although wiring a sparkplug to your exhaust is considered 'rice' its merely helping your cause, u'd still av to run without cats.

its bad wen u wire up a bottle of butane in your boot to you tailpipe then try an get flames!! (seen it done) now thats rice! 15ft flames from a nova 850cc!!


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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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hahahah a nova! rice
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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As said you would need a free flowing exhaust. Still, they'll always be pathetic next to turbocharged with their wisping flames. My friend has a Cosworth with an anti lag system, so it spits flames all the time like a rally car. Fantastic.

My Clio didn't have a de-cat though, i had a different ECU which allowed overfueling and so flames..

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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:39 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 10:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Thunderbirds are go !!!

Hang on, wanting flames out of his exhaust? Isn't that being a muppet not a puppet?
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 11:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by robfen
As said you would need a free flowing exhaust. Still, they'll always be pathetic next to turbocharged with their wisping flames. My friend has a Cosworth with an anti lag system, so it spits flames all the time like a rally car. Fantastic.

My Clio didn't have a de-cat though, i had a different ECU which allowed overfueling and so flames..

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i hope he likes rebuilding turbos ...anti-lag systems will probably help short turbo life span....

even though it's "rice" i don't mind .....saving for that 250hp upgrade + suspension + brakes .....where's the california super lotto when you need them
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Old Jul 15th, 2004, 01:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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A few years ago (longer that I care to mention) I was speaking to a chap whose wife did not like him driving at 70 on the motorway and if he did whislt she was in the car she would turn the engine off (I believe it was a Humber if anyone out there can remember such things)- if the exhaust was hot enough the surplus petrol would ignite in the expansion box! Must have been quite interesting if you were driving behind him- only problem was that it blew the expansion box up and he had to buy several new ones.
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Old Jul 15th, 2004, 01:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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he just let her turn it off????

suppose it's better than yanking the handbrake on him tho
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He didn't have much choice- she just did it- an old fashioned gentleman who respected his old duc- not sure I could be so understanding!
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Quote: Originally Posted by FLiPSiDE
whats this doing in the performance forum? looks like its time we added another labeled "Rice" hahaha


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Old Jul 18th, 2004, 06:06 AM   #20 (permalink)
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