[Jamez]

Sorry if this has been posted already but did do a quick search and didn't find anything.

Anyway I have a mini one and I wish to know whether anyone knows if you can get a Super charge/turbo upgrade?

[aphix]

I spoke to AMD this morning who are devleloping a turbo for the Cooper pushing 200bhp standard but ive heard rumours from the company who will be supplying it of 263bhp with a full 12 months warranty.

However dont get too excited, we are quite a few months away, there is no indication on pricing and no real details yet. - AMD are not saying too much about it.

Cost will be the major factor here, providing its in the same price catagory as another turbo kit i have seen floating about then it will be worth it. But theres the question of TLC, Insurance and Fuel.

But dont bother sqeezing AMD about details, they are not saying too much... only that it is being developed as we speek, but has been since 2003

Rob

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by aphix

I spoke to AMD this morning who are devleloping a turbo for the Cooper pushing 200bhp standard but ive heard rumours from the company who will be supplying it of 263bhp with a full 12 months warranty.

However dont get too excited, we are quite a few months away, there is no indication on pricing and no real details yet. - AMD are not saying too much about it.

Cost will be the major factor here, providing its in the same price catagory as another turbo kit i have seen floating about then it will be worth it. But theres the question of TLC, Insurance and Fuel.

But dont bother sqeezing AMD about details, they are not saying too much... only that it is being developed as we speek, but has been since 2003

Rob

this time last year they had a 170bhp mini one at MITP

[GRSmotorsport]

Quote: Originally Posted by aphix

I spoke to AMD this morning who are devleloping a turbo for the Cooper pushing 200bhp standard but ive heard rumours from the company who will be supplying it of 263bhp with a full 12 months warranty.

However dont get too excited, we are quite a few months away, there is no indication on pricing and no real details yet. - AMD are not saying too much about it.

Cost will be the major factor here, providing its in the same price catagory as another turbo kit i have seen floating about then it will be worth it. But theres the question of TLC, Insurance and Fuel.

But dont bother sqeezing AMD about details, they are not saying too much... only that it is being developed as we speek, but has been since 2003

Rob

I was shown the turbo for this conversion at the AMD rolling road day a few weeks ago. From what I could see the turbo is run by a pulley and not the exhaust gas's

[aphix]

Sounds interesting but doesnt that make it a super charger?

Rob

[uae mini]

yup guess its a centrifugal supercharger

wish they made one for the S

[usaminicooper]

Helix and Psi have been talking for awhile about a turbo/supercharged Mini S.
Reports or 250 at wheels have been rumored.

[RedUn]

Quote: Originally Posted by aphix

Sounds interesting but doesnt that make it a super charger?

Rob

thats wot i thought

[Tonyt3]

Its interesting that I've heard a few companies talk about 'belt driven turbo chargers'.... these are companies that work with SC's and tubos, so thy must have good reason for saying 'belt driven turbo' rather than supercharger... anyone know what this reason might be?

[aphix]

Unless maybe it uses a combination of the 2, and uses a belt for below a certain RPM and then disengages the belt after that and the exhaust spins it, as a normal tubo charger..

just a wild stab in the dark

[aphix]

Ignore that post.

Is the Supercharger in the "S" a roots type supercharger?

if it is, then the system being devleoped by AMD might be a Centrifugal supercharger, which is belt driven, but is simlar to a turbo becuase of the way it compresses the air inside the supercharger using high impeller speeds.

Rob

[uae mini]

Quote: Originally Posted by aphix

Ignore that post.

Is the Supercharger in the "S" a roots type supercharger?

if it is, then the system being devleoped by AMD might be a Centrifugal supercharger, which is belt driven, but is simlar to a turbo becuase of the way it compresses the air inside the supercharger using high impeller speeds.

Rob

if thats the case then how much will they produce??
M7 are said to be producing 300hp with their twinscrew superchargers(alot less heat since the air is compressed in the charger and not in the manifold)

i just cant wait for these companies to battle it off.... how about a topgear or even better a best motoring session..lol

[usaminicooper]

Quote:

M7 are said to be producing 300hp with their twinscrew superchargers

Does it fit under the hood?

[uae mini]

Quote: Originally Posted by usaminicooper

Does it fit under the hood?

it should(if not i'll make it fit)

[aphix]

Surley there must be a limit to how much the engine can take?

Rob

[Mini_Blake]

Quote: Originally Posted by aphix

Surley there must be a limit to how much the engine can take?

Rob

I think most components in the mini are rated to 250 bhp, so once that is exceeded then those pieces need replacing otherwise failure can be expected. You are correct though, but the kits will upgrade the parts needed to keep the engine going.

[aphix]

The other thing was, that a few months ago i saw a Turbo kit being developed by Maxi-Tuner, pushing about 240bhp.

They said that the kit includes changing the Cylinder head to that off a Cooper S, and the gearbox to that out of the Diesel Cooper, to deal with the extra torque.

The AMD kit requires neither to be changed, but the torque increase is imense. Surley the Cooper 5-Speed geabox and standard head are going to take a beating?

Rob

[MrMini748]

A turbos something Ive been looking at for my ONE for a good few months now but can't seem to find any companies who have actually released one yet for larger scale production.

The closest so far is Autofashion but the amount that needs to be changed under the bonnet puts me off slightly.

I was hoping Van Aaken, who produce lower boost turbos, therefore no requiring much to be changed to the engine at all apart from some silicon hoses and the turbo itself with the manifold of course, but they don't have one planned for the MINI

But anyway, in answer to your question I would find it hard to believe that a turbo producing 200BHP OR MORE would not require at least the gearbox to be replaced. The Mk1 box is rated at 145-150BHP and the Getrag is rated at about 180BHP I think. I'd also think that an intercooler would be required. But I actually think the standard head could cope with the extra power. If AmD wants to proove me wrong and show us some photos or let me have a test drive ( ) then theyre more than welcome to

Pat