MINI2 Header Logo

MINI2

Fuel for your MINI obsession

Carccessory.com
Welcome to MINI2.
You are currently viewing MINI2 as a guest.
Please register by clicking this link or login:
       
Search forums: Show: Advanced: Forums or Members or Tags
Tags: , ,

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread
Old Sep 19th, 2005, 04:38 PM   #1
venox22
only the brave!
 
venox22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lincs
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 1,430
Offline
Send a message via AIM to venox22 Send a message via MSN to venox22
Phillips Silvervision or Osram Diadem???

Which replacement indicator bulbs are better in peoples views?? Not sure if the Diadem look to boyracer blue, and not sure if the silvervision are silver enough!
United Kingdom Male View venox22's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Sponsors

Sponsored Links


Registered members do not see Google Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts.
Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum
   
Old Sep 19th, 2005, 11:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
minigolf
MINI2 Privilege Member
Blue is the colour!
 
minigolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Canberra, Australia
Local Time: 05:04 PM
Posts: 14,066
Offline
Neither will be perfect I'm afraid. But both are a vast improvement over the stock egg yolk look.

Give it a couple of days and I'll be able to do a test for you.



Cheers Liam
Australia Male View minigolf's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 21st, 2005, 10:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
minigolf
MINI2 Privilege Member
Blue is the colour!
 
minigolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Canberra, Australia
Local Time: 05:04 PM
Posts: 14,066
Offline

Left: Osram Diadem : Right: Philips Silvervision



Osram Diadem




Philips Silvervision
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	36978693-M.jpg
Views:	825
Size:	58.7 KB
ID:	101602  Click image for larger version

Name:	36978708-M.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	29.8 KB
ID:	101603  Click image for larger version

Name:	36978711-M.jpg
Views:	152
Size:	49.2 KB
ID:	101604  Click image for larger version

Name:	36978699-M.jpg
Views:	859
Size:	42.6 KB
ID:	101605  Click image for larger version

Name:	36978703-M.jpg
Views:	102
Size:	42.6 KB
ID:	101606  

Click image for larger version

Name:	36978698-M.jpg
Views:	834
Size:	45.6 KB
ID:	101607  Click image for larger version

Name:	36978705-M.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	42.9 KB
ID:	101608  
Australia Male View minigolf's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
venox22
only the brave!
 
venox22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lincs
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 1,430
Offline
Send a message via AIM to venox22 Send a message via MSN to venox22
Thanks, guess i should have got the osram ones, ordered the Phillips yesterday!! doh
United Kingdom Male View venox22's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
Mini Me GB
Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Senior
 
Mini Me GB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kent
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 699
Offline
Quote: Originally Posted by venox22
Thanks, guess i should have got the osram ones, ordered the Phillips yesterday!! doh

In reality when your not that close or front on - the Philips look much less yellow than that..
United Kingdom Male View Mini Me GB's Laser Blue & White 2nd Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2005, 09:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
minigolf
MINI2 Privilege Member
Blue is the colour!
 
minigolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Canberra, Australia
Local Time: 05:04 PM
Posts: 14,066
Offline
Mini Me GB is right, I just bought the Philips globes to replace the Osram ones.
Australia Male View minigolf's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2005, 09:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
AndrLync
Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Regular
 
AndrLync's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Birmingham
Local Time: 07:04 AM
Posts: 177
Offline
Send a message via MSN to AndrLync
Don't think you'll have a problem with the silver indicator bulbs, once they are in the look white - in my opinion they look better than the blue ones, you're just swapping one colour (yellow) for another (blue).

Take a look at the photo....

United Kingdom Male View AndrLync's Chili Red & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2005, 11:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
venox22
only the brave!
 
venox22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lincs
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 1,430
Offline
Send a message via AIM to venox22 Send a message via MSN to venox22
Yeah just fitted the phillips one, think i made the right choice!!
United Kingdom Male View venox22's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 22nd, 2005, 12:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
ollies
in a works
 
ollies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: gateshead
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 408
Offline
i got philips silver vision too they look fine insatalled ,also got blue led side light bulbs off ebay
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	finished.jpg
Views:	230
Size:	21.0 KB
ID:	101628  

ollies
United Kingdom Male View ollies's British Racing Green & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 5th, 2005, 12:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
minigolf
MINI2 Privilege Member
Blue is the colour!
 
minigolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Canberra, Australia
Local Time: 05:04 PM
Posts: 14,066
Offline
Quote: Originally Posted by AndrLync
Don't think you'll have a problem with the silver indicator bulbs, once they are in the look white - in my opinion they look better than the blue ones, you're just swapping one colour (yellow) for another (blue).

Take a look at the photo....


Definitely agree. For some reason my pics came out a bit different to how the eye usually sees the Silvervisions. AndrLync's pic above gives a much better impression of how these globes look.

Australia Male View minigolf's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 5th, 2005, 10:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
Baker
MINI2 Privilege Member Has met Quack Quack Jack
Being normal is not fun!
 
Baker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Local Time: 05:04 PM
Posts: 4,270
Offline
The Diadem look noticably blue, wasn't happy with them when I got them (was a group buy, long, long ago ).

Still looks 100% better than the norm though! Only thing I'm thinking of replacing them with is a proper "chrome" blub, that'll look perfect.
Australia Male View Baker's Dark Silver & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 6th, 2005, 01:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
whokilledkaji
MINI2 Senior
 
whokilledkaji's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Shiga, Japan
Local Time: 04:04 PM
Posts: 480
Offline
How well do the Phillips Silvervision lights match up with Xenon headlights?

I mean, do they produce pretty clear, white light?
Japan   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 6th, 2005, 02:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
venox22
only the brave!
 
venox22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lincs
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 1,430
Offline
Send a message via AIM to venox22 Send a message via MSN to venox22
The bulb we are talking about is the Phillips Silvervision indicator bulb, which when lit flashes orange, but has a chrome-type covering avoiding the egg-yolk look!

I have recently changed my full beam lights to try and get that zenon look to match my zenon main's, i used phillips bluevision, they give better distance for driving but still dont look anything like the zenon's, i also used phillips bluevision sidelights which came with the Full beam bulbs, these too dont look anything like the zenon's. I think you need led's for the sidelights
United Kingdom Male View venox22's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 6th, 2005, 04:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
OldRick
40-yr. sports car tweaker
 
OldRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oregon
Local Time: 12:04 AM
Posts: 96
Offline
Be aware that with either version, the chrome coating does block about 30% of the available light. On the Sylvania version in the US, they use a 27-watt filament to compensate. If you are using a 21-watt chromed bulb, you are getting the light equivalent of a 15-watt bulb, i.e. significantly dimmer than stock.

I haven't found any 27-watt non-chromed replacement bulb for the 7507 bulbs, and there is no US-equivalent bulb number.
United States View OldRick's Liquid Yellow & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 6th, 2005, 11:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
minigolf
MINI2 Privilege Member
Blue is the colour!
 
minigolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Canberra, Australia
Local Time: 05:04 PM
Posts: 14,066
Offline
That may be the case OldRick, but I can't say that, in Australian conditions at least, the light given from the Silvervision globes would cause any problems. IMO the only way you could prove any light blockage would be by undertaking a proper scientific test, certainly with the naked eye I doubt you would be causing anyone any problems.
Australia Male View minigolf's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 6th, 2005, 11:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
OldRick
40-yr. sports car tweaker
 
OldRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oregon
Local Time: 12:04 AM
Posts: 96
Offline
minigolf - It's been said that you can't be too thin or have too much money. Racers say that you can't have too much light.

For myself, I figure that in a tiny little car, you can't be too visible...
United States View OldRick's Liquid Yellow & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 7th, 2005, 02:45 AM   #17 (permalink)
OldRick
40-yr. sports car tweaker
 
OldRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oregon
Local Time: 12:04 AM
Posts: 96
Offline
venox22 - Here is a quote from the prop. of www.superlumination.com - a Canadian firm that sells both LED and standard auto bulbs of all kinds. My question was whether their 20-LED "tower" replacing the 7507 turn signal bulbs would produce any more light than the factory 21-watt bulbs.

"These produce more light output than any other 7507 leds made, but no leds produce as much light output as clear glass incandescent bulbs."

You may not be getting what you think you want, if you are replacing the factory bulbs with LEDs.

minigolf - If you don't think that a 25-30% upgrade in wattage produces a significant amount of additional light, try replacing all the 75-watt bulbs in you home with 60-watt bulbs - then try to read the newspaper.

A 30% increase in wattage of your auto bulbs gives a Major increase in vision and visibility.
United States View OldRick's Liquid Yellow & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 7th, 2005, 09:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
AndrLync
Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Regular
 
AndrLync's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Birmingham
Local Time: 07:04 AM
Posts: 177
Offline
Send a message via MSN to AndrLync
Personally I don't think the naked eye will notice a difference between the factory yellow bulbs and a silver-coated indicator.

It was a (minor) concern when I replaced mine but I can't tell any difference in brightness between my Cooper with the silver bulbs and my girlfriend's Cooper with factory-standard indicators.

If you were monkeying around with headlights then I might agree with OldRick but just can't see it ( ) with indicators....
United Kingdom Male View AndrLync's Chili Red & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 7th, 2005, 09:41 AM   #19 (permalink)
venox22
only the brave!
 
venox22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lincs
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 1,430
Offline
Send a message via AIM to venox22 Send a message via MSN to venox22
This is getting too much for me!!!
United Kingdom Male View venox22's Indi Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 7th, 2005, 09:55 AM   #20 (permalink)
AndytheScientist
MINI2 Regular
 
AndytheScientist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle
Local Time: 08:04 AM
Posts: 115
Offline
I replaced the stock yellow bulb last night with the philips silver visions. I swapped on in first to see what they looked like and actually thought the philips bulb looked brighter than the stock bulb. Certainly no dimmer. To the naked eye the unlit light looks pretty much as neer to white as your going to get, certainly no egg yolk effect.
United Kingdom   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Sponsors

Sponsored Links


Registered members do not see Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts.
Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum
   
Reply
More is car insurance



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Diadem Bulbs?? JHorwitz Exterior 26 Nov 30th, 2006 09:27 PM
Anyone fitted diadem bulbs? Cobby Park Lane Exterior 9 Nov 30th, 2006 01:49 PM
Phillips Vision Plus H7 Lamps FS on Ebay!! Andy_Aj For Sale 0 Jul 5th, 2005 05:57 PM
Phillips Blue Vision Bulbs ;) AJH3 Exterior 50 Jan 11th, 2004 12:42 AM
Osram Diadem Indicators Root Ginger Exterior 10 May 13th, 2003 02:06 PM