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Basil · Jul 17th, 2002, 02:48 AM

You've probably seen it before, but I thought it does look rather smart on the EB.......

Sejanus · Jul 17th, 2002, 03:13 AM

Hmm, I dunno Basil, it looks a bit too ambulance-like to me. The red one with the UJ looks great though!

Basil · Jul 17th, 2002, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sejanus
Hmm, I dunno Basil, it looks a bit too ambulance-like to me........

I think thats why I like it........

Sejanus · Jul 17th, 2002, 03:21 AM

Perhaps it was used for emergencies on the set of the Lord of the Rings in NZ. A MINI would be about the right size for rushing hobbits to the hospital.

iaa · Jul 17th, 2002, 04:04 AM

I know this has been said before, but it would look a lot better if it extended to the edge of the roof-line, otherwise it looks like an inverted Swiss flag.

From a brief internet search, it would appear that the overall proportions should be 5:3 (W:H) with the cross line width = H/5.

Ian

Basil · Jul 17th, 2002, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iaa
......otherwise it looks like an inverted Swiss flag.

Oh, and there was me thinking the slot in the front was for the brandy bottle.

DocT · Jul 17th, 2002, 02:15 PM

While you're at it, how about little red crosses on the mirror covers???

GaryM · Jul 17th, 2002, 05:00 PM

I designed and fitted these graphix myself and the reason they don't go to the edge of the roof is the ease of installation. It would mean several cuts in the vinyl to accomodate the curve at the edge of the roof. I actualy don't think it is to bad.

However I think you could fit the English flag to the edges as the curves are not as complex as those in the corners.

DaveG · Jul 17th, 2002, 06:33 PM

I've just had a flag of St George applied to the roof of my Cooper by my MINI dealer. Apparently they do the English cross bit first, and then do the rest if you want the full Union Jack. Being English I just wanted the cross, and very good it looks to

I had bonnet stipes done as well, about 200 quid the lot.

Bet I've got the ONLY yellow/white roofed/St George's crossed/bonnet striped/white wheeled Cooper in existence!

monsta · Jul 17th, 2002, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveG

Bet I've got the ONLY yellow/white roofed/St George's crossed/bonnet striped/white wheeled Cooper in existence!

This guy must be a close relation though....

http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...lery=MitchyBoy

ELISEBOY · Jul 17th, 2002, 07:05 PM

LOL!!!

you need the spotlights to make it different now then!

DaveG · Jul 17th, 2002, 07:14 PM

Nope, no spot lights for me. Saw them on an Cooper at the dealers and thought they looked naff. YMMV

Must get around to sorting a car kit for the mobile, and an line input to the Boost radio for the ipod.

And then there'd be the Works conversion, and .......

GaryM · Jul 17th, 2002, 07:34 PM

DaveG

Can't help you with WRX kit but check the tail end of this thread as there are a few bits info on my Nokia install in there.

As for the line-in, I working on this too. At the moment it is not looking good as I don't like the idea of sending the signal via the aerial lead and I cannot find out how to trigger the many different cabled line-ins on unit (Aux in, TV in, CD changer in, Navigation in). Got the phone in working though, as above.

Basically I need to devise a Black box to send the right code down the control line to trigger the appropriate input. It is one thing to ba able to produce the signal but another to whork out what to say to it.

DaveG · Jul 18th, 2002, 04:25 AM

Hi GaryM

Quote:

Originally posted by GaryM

Can't help you with WRX kit but check the tail end of this thread as there are a few bits info on my Nokia install in there.

Yep, seen that thread already

Quote:

As for the line-in, I working on this too. At the moment it is not looking good as I don't like the idea of sending the signal via the aerial lead and I cannot find out how to trigger the many different cabled line-ins on unit (Aux in, TV in, CD changer in, Navigation in). Got the phone in working though, as above.

So there IS an Aux in available then!

Quote:

Basically I need to devise a Black box to send the right code down the control line to trigger the appropriate input. It is one thing to ba able to produce the signal but another to whork out what to say to it.

There's a few other threads about a line in

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=7865

www.BlitzSafe.com apparently have a black box to do the line in.

Oh, and a you gave a good explaination of balanced circuits in

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=8633

I do live sound for a living, and find that most HiFi/ICE people don't really understand balanced circuits, or RMS/Peak come to that.

GaryM · Jul 18th, 2002, 05:50 AM

Quote:

So there IS an Aux in available then!

Yes, I think so. I have the pin out details of the rear of the Boost unit and they are not indicated here but it was mentioned in other threads. Having stripped the head unit down there is an aux in labled on the PCB which terminated to some undefined pins on the rear. As I have said before it is learning these all important trigger codes. Even if Aux in wasn't viable theres the stereo TV or CD changer in. I guess it is the latter that BlitzSafe have hacked.

Quote:

Oh, and a you gave a good explaination of balanced circuits

Cheers for that. I'm not in the industry in any way I'm just applying common sense. For example how many 600W or 1000W RMS amps are there really? Take away the RMS value and it seems a licence for manufactures to say what they like. EG: My rear speakers are rated at 150W, wow. Until you look at the RMS figure of 50W. Look at the figures on Jap amps they seem to be the worst.

My rule of thumb is stick with RMS figures at 4ohms all the way. If you can't find them forget the peice of kit.

DaveG · Jul 18th, 2002, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Yes, I think so. I have the pin out details of the rear of the Boost unit and they are not indicated here but it was mentioned in other threads.

Yep, saw that.

Quote:

Having stripped the head unit down

Brave man

Quote:

there is an aux in labled on the PCB which terminated to some undefined pins on the rear. As I have said before it is learning these all important trigger codes.

The CAN bus protocol? Or is that what the car uses? Does the Boost radio use the Alpine M-Bus protocol?

<snipped>

Quote:

For example how many 600W or 1000W RMS amps are there really?

Not many at all! Most professional ones that produce that sort of power are over 25KG as well, unless they use switch mode PSUs, but even then they're around 10KG

Quote:

My rule of thumb is stick with RMS figures at 4ohms all the way. If you can't find them forget the peice of kit.

And use your ears!!

GaryM · Jul 18th, 2002, 05:33 PM

You've got it. Like a good wine enjoy what you enjoy! In this case what sounds good to me might not to you.

Not sure on the protocol and that is part of the problem. The other is that I'd love to put a protocol sniffer on the bus but I can only do this on a lab bench and guess what, the head unit does a security check with the car as it powers up. Just comes up "DISABLE" on display.

On the amp front... most, even of marginal quality, will use switch mode PSU's. The exception normally being head units, however Alpine and others are even using crude SMPSU's in them. Oh and then mis-quote the outputs to make them sound loud, 60W I think Alpine say. Yeah right! Simple ohms law will tell you can't get much out of 12-14V so a SMPSU is need to pump up the voltage.

Guess it is long overdue that this thread move to INTERIOR & ICE.

Jul 17th, 2002, 02:48 AM	#1
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Nice "English" flag for your roof....... You've probably seen it before, but I thought it does look rather smart on the EB....... Last edited by Paul : Jul 17th, 2002 at 03:07 AM.

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Jul 17th, 2002, 06:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
DaveG MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland, near Dublin Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 23 Offline	I've just had a flag of St George applied to the roof of my Cooper by my MINI dealer. Apparently they do the English cross bit first, and then do the rest if you want the full Union Jack. Being English I just wanted the cross, and very good it looks to I had bonnet stipes done as well, about 200 quid the lot. Bet I've got the ONLY yellow/white roofed/St George's crossed/bonnet striped/white wheeled Cooper in existence! DaveG

Jul 17th, 2002, 06:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 4,669 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by DaveG Bet I've got the ONLY yellow/white roofed/St George's crossed/bonnet striped/white wheeled Cooper in existence! This guy must be a close relation though.... http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...lery=MitchyBoy the MINI has gone...

Jul 17th, 2002, 07:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
DaveG MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland, near Dublin Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 23 Offline	Nope, no spot lights for me. Saw them on an Cooper at the dealers and thought they looked naff. YMMV Must get around to sorting a car kit for the mobile, and an line input to the Boost radio for the ipod. And then there'd be the Works conversion, and ....... DaveG

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Jul 17th, 2002, 03:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sejanus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Sacramento Local Time: 02:24 AM Posts: 4,231 Offline	Hmm, I dunno Basil, it looks a bit too ambulance-like to me. The red one with the UJ looks great though!

Jul 17th, 2002, 03:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Sejanus Hmm, I dunno Basil, it looks a bit too ambulance-like to me........ I think thats why I like it........

Jul 17th, 2002, 03:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sejanus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Sacramento Local Time: 02:24 AM Posts: 4,231 Offline	Perhaps it was used for emergencies on the set of the Lord of the Rings in NZ. A MINI would be about the right size for rushing hobbits to the hospital.

Jul 17th, 2002, 04:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
iaa MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somerset Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 102 Offline	I know this has been said before, but it would look a lot better if it extended to the edge of the roof-line, otherwise it looks like an inverted Swiss flag. From a brief internet search, it would appear that the overall proportions should be 5:3 (W:H) with the cross line width = H/5. Ian

Jul 17th, 2002, 04:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by iaa ......otherwise it looks like an inverted Swiss flag. Oh, and there was me thinking the slot in the front was for the brandy bottle.

Jul 17th, 2002, 05:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
GaryM MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 388 Offline	I designed and fitted these graphix myself and the reason they don't go to the edge of the roof is the ease of installation. It would mean several cuts in the vinyl to accomodate the curve at the edge of the roof. I actualy don't think it is to bad. However I think you could fit the English flag to the edges as the curves are not as complex as those in the corners.

Jul 17th, 2002, 07:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
ELISEBOY MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 2,163 Offline	LOL!!! you need the spotlights to make it different now then!

Jul 17th, 2002, 07:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
GaryM MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 388 Offline	DaveG Can't help you with WRX kit but check the tail end of this thread as there are a few bits info on my Nokia install in there. As for the line-in, I working on this too. At the moment it is not looking good as I don't like the idea of sending the signal via the aerial lead and I cannot find out how to trigger the many different cabled line-ins on unit (Aux in, TV in, CD changer in, Navigation in). Got the phone in working though, as above. Basically I need to devise a Black box to send the right code down the control line to trigger the appropriate input. It is one thing to ba able to produce the signal but another to whork out what to say to it.

Jul 18th, 2002, 04:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
DaveG MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland, near Dublin Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 23 Offline	Hi GaryM Quote: Originally posted by GaryM Can't help you with WRX kit but check the tail end of this thread as there are a few bits info on my Nokia install in there. Yep, seen that thread already Quote: As for the line-in, I working on this too. At the moment it is not looking good as I don't like the idea of sending the signal via the aerial lead and I cannot find out how to trigger the many different cabled line-ins on unit (Aux in, TV in, CD changer in, Navigation in). Got the phone in working though, as above. So there IS an Aux in available then! Quote: Basically I need to devise a Black box to send the right code down the control line to trigger the appropriate input. It is one thing to ba able to produce the signal but another to whork out what to say to it. There's a few other threads about a line in http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=7865 www.BlitzSafe.com apparently have a black box to do the line in. Oh, and a you gave a good explaination of balanced circuits in http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=8633 I do live sound for a living, and find that most HiFi/ICE people don't really understand balanced circuits, or RMS/Peak come to that. DaveG

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Jul 18th, 2002, 05:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
GaryM MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 388 Offline	Quote: So there IS an Aux in available then! Yes, I think so. I have the pin out details of the rear of the Boost unit and they are not indicated here but it was mentioned in other threads. Having stripped the head unit down there is an aux in labled on the PCB which terminated to some undefined pins on the rear. As I have said before it is learning these all important trigger codes. Even if Aux in wasn't viable theres the stereo TV or CD changer in. I guess it is the latter that BlitzSafe have hacked. Quote: Oh, and a you gave a good explaination of balanced circuits Cheers for that. I'm not in the industry in any way I'm just applying common sense. For example how many 600W or 1000W RMS amps are there really? Take away the RMS value and it seems a licence for manufactures to say what they like. EG: My rear speakers are rated at 150W, wow. Until you look at the RMS figure of 50W. Look at the figures on Jap amps they seem to be the worst. My rule of thumb is stick with RMS figures at 4ohms all the way. If you can't find them forget the peice of kit.

Jul 18th, 2002, 05:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
DaveG MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland, near Dublin Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 23 Offline	Quote: Yes, I think so. I have the pin out details of the rear of the Boost unit and they are not indicated here but it was mentioned in other threads. Yep, saw that. Quote: Having stripped the head unit down Brave man Quote: there is an aux in labled on the PCB which terminated to some undefined pins on the rear. As I have said before it is learning these all important trigger codes. The CAN bus protocol? Or is that what the car uses? Does the Boost radio use the Alpine M-Bus protocol? <snipped> Quote: For example how many 600W or 1000W RMS amps are there really? Not many at all! Most professional ones that produce that sort of power are over 25KG as well, unless they use switch mode PSUs, but even then they're around 10KG Quote: My rule of thumb is stick with RMS figures at 4ohms all the way. If you can't find them forget the peice of kit. And use your ears!! DaveG

Jul 18th, 2002, 05:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
GaryM MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 388 Offline	You've got it. Like a good wine enjoy what you enjoy! In this case what sounds good to me might not to you. Not sure on the protocol and that is part of the problem. The other is that I'd love to put a protocol sniffer on the bus but I can only do this on a lab bench and guess what, the head unit does a security check with the car as it powers up. Just comes up "DISABLE" on display. On the amp front... most, even of marginal quality, will use switch mode PSU's. The exception normally being head units, however Alpine and others are even using crude SMPSU's in them. Oh and then mis-quote the outputs to make them sound loud, 60W I think Alpine say. Yeah right! Simple ohms law will tell you can't get much out of 12-14V so a SMPSU is need to pump up the voltage. Guess it is long overdue that this thread move to INTERIOR & ICE.

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