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SofaKing · Jun 17th, 2006, 05:39 AM

I have yet to see anything being done with aftermarket hood scoops for the Mini...

So I started to toy with the idea of fabbing one myself.
( I am lucky enough to have a friend who works with Carbon Fiber and Glass for a living )

I am in the first phase of the project and have done a mock up using Foam, Plaster and a spare Cooper S hood that was laying around my shop and here is what I have come up with so far...

http://www.mini2.com/galleries/showgallery.php?cat=1787

( PLEASE, no flames about how disorganized my shop is, that's the wife's job to hound me about clean up )

I had the hood lying about as it was slighty damaged by truck tire debris and was subsequently repalced by insurance...

Please let me know what you think...

My next step is to have a mold cast off the mock up.

We will then cast a fiber glass part and use that to work out all air flow, cosmetic, mounting and structural details. Once the glass part is "perfect" we will use it to make a second mold. The second mold will allow us to begin the carbon work for a finished part.

My goal is to be able to use this scoop to mount a larger, aftermarket intercooler and postion it so that it is angled into the wind flowing through the scoop.

I have a lot of the details worked out and will cover that later on.

All feedback welcomed.

SofaKing

COOPER S KID · Jun 18th, 2006, 09:10 AM

i like it !! cant wait to see it when it is finished , especially in carbon !!!
also the idea about mounting the intercooler on more of an angle is pretty cool !

SofaKing · Jun 19th, 2006, 04:37 AM

Thanks...

It's going to take about 2 more weeks to get the first mold ( Material and time being limited )

I'll post pics of the whole process.

SofaKing

Restyle · Jun 19th, 2006, 05:38 AM

Great Workmanship.

insane*mini · Jun 19th, 2006, 04:13 PM

Ehhh, honestly I really don't like it. It looks like great workmenship was done though, so probs for that!

I'll hold my final opinion for the final result.

-Cody

Mike Edwards · Jun 19th, 2006, 06:26 PM

If you could find a way to work the profile of the inlet into something that would fit in the standard bonnet aperture?

It would look a lot better than other attempts at getting more air through the stock intercooler, ought to provide similar benefits, would be much cheaper/quicker to fit than the whole bonnet approach and would have a wider market.

Like the idea though - it ought to be possible to fit a 'really' big intercooler.

St00ge · Jun 20th, 2006, 04:18 AM

crikey, will be interested to see what it looks like when its done!

SofaKing · Jun 21st, 2006, 12:02 PM

Thanks for input...

I think I may have some folks confused...
The goal is to have a bolt on Hood Scoop, not an entire bonnet.

I will am trying to come up with a kit that allows you to cut and re-inforce the existing bonnet, then bolt on - or bond the scoop in place.
I am also trying to use some of the geometry of the existing scoop apertutre to provide an anchoring point.

I am also looking at some internal air damns to channel air to the correct places once the scoop has been mounted on the hood.

I will update once we make some more progress...

SofaKing

ScottishcooperS · Jun 21st, 2006, 12:29 PM

that looks crap

minicabrio · Jun 21st, 2006, 01:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

that looks crap

That's encouragement for you....

As a work in progress it looks pretty good, I think its only fair to reserve judgement until the final result is shown

St00ge · Jun 21st, 2006, 01:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS

that looks crap

easy, Willie

Richard Crofts · Jun 21st, 2006, 01:51 PM

lol

Look OK (a bit reserved though) not really my thing as its a touch OTT bulge wise for what might be achievable with less increase in side profile ??! Not an expert and not fully understanding all of what you want to achieve with it so can't really judge too harshly. Could be a lot beter than some of the kev boy bonnet scoops on Novas and other cars so I'm up for someone having a go at fabricating something a touch more subtle for MINI users.

R

St00ge · Jun 21st, 2006, 02:00 PM

you might wanna have a look over a NAM. I saw people discussing a air inlet and outlet like yours to aid the design of the DFIC ( a different type of intercooler that channels air straight back rather than forcing it to do a 90 deg turn.

obehave · Jun 21st, 2006, 02:06 PM

The back side of it needs to change IMO. The sharp edges and flat surface don't work with the lines of the MINI. Roll it off and round it out and it's look better.

?? Will the final product require removal of metal? If you want to improve air volume you'd want to open up the area under your scoop. So you would need to remove the center section of the hood. The current curve is where a good deal of the rigidity of the hood comes from. Removing that will weaken the hood so reinforcement needs to be part of the plan.
If you aren't going to open it up then I can't see a large advantage to this as the volume will be quite limiting.
2.5p worth

obehave · Jun 21st, 2006, 02:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by St00ge

you might wanna have a look over a NAM. I saw people discussing a air inlet and outlet like yours to aid the design of the DFIC ( a different type of intercooler that channels air straight back rather than forcing it to do a 90 deg turn.

There are also a couple or designs that help the standard IC as well.
None are sponsors here so the heck with them

St00ge · Jun 21st, 2006, 02:14 PM

yeh but they've been done to death. Ram air this n that. There is still too much blocking the underside of the TMICs. Is it possible to create some venturi effect at the back opening with a design like this you reckon?

Maybe sofa wants to get in contact with them tho

Jim Ray · Jun 21st, 2006, 02:19 PM

I like it! Nice work. Go full retro, and put the guage cluster in the rear of the scoop?

obehave · Jun 21st, 2006, 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by St00ge

yeh but they've been done to death. Ram air this n that. There is still too much blocking the underside of the TMICs. Is it possible to create some venturi effect at the back opening with a design like this you reckon?

Maybe sofa wants to get in contact with them tho

Exactly.
That's why I was asking about removing the center of the hood for clearance. Channeling air from the rear of this scoop would be fairly easy.

It would then be approaching "that other design"

minidew · Jun 21st, 2006, 03:20 PM

FYI, www.myminiparts.com sells hood scoops -- not sure if it's what you're after, but just in case.

Restyle · Jun 21st, 2006, 07:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by minidew

FYI, www.myminiparts.com sells hood scoops -- not sure if it's what you're after, but just in case.

I dont think you got that addy correct, Thats just a content reseller for Viagra etc
<EDIT>
Links been fixed now so this post makes me look proper silly

Jun 17th, 2006, 05:39 AM	#1
SofaKing MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Hood Scoop Project for Cooper S I have yet to see anything being done with aftermarket hood scoops for the Mini... So I started to toy with the idea of fabbing one myself. ( I am lucky enough to have a friend who works with Carbon Fiber and Glass for a living ) I am in the first phase of the project and have done a mock up using Foam, Plaster and a spare Cooper S hood that was laying around my shop and here is what I have come up with so far... http://www.mini2.com/galleries/showgallery.php?cat=1787 ( PLEASE, no flames about how disorganized my shop is, that's the wife's job to hound me about clean up ) I had the hood lying about as it was slighty damaged by truck tire debris and was subsequently repalced by insurance... Please let me know what you think... My next step is to have a mold cast off the mock up. We will then cast a fiber glass part and use that to work out all air flow, cosmetic, mounting and structural details. Once the glass part is "perfect" we will use it to make a second mold. The second mold will allow us to begin the carbon work for a finished part. My goal is to be able to use this scoop to mount a larger, aftermarket intercooler and postion it so that it is angled into the wind flowing through the scoop. I have a lot of the details worked out and will cover that later on. All feedback welcomed. SofaKing

Jun 19th, 2006, 04:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
SofaKing MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Hood Scoop... Thanks... It's going to take about 2 more weeks to get the first mold ( Material and time being limited ) I'll post pics of the whole process. SofaKing

Jun 19th, 2006, 05:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Restyle Damned My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Shropshire Local Time: 03:53 AM Posts: 4,319 Offline	Great Workmanship. In da Wud

Jun 19th, 2006, 04:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
insane*mini polizei -NAM and Focaljet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 555 Offline	Ehhh, honestly I really don't like it. It looks like great workmenship was done though, so probs for that! I'll hold my final opinion for the final result. -Cody "Gizmo" - 03' IB/B MCS!

Jun 20th, 2006, 04:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 12:53 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	crikey, will be interested to see what it looks like when its done! Black MCS

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Jun 18th, 2006, 09:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
COOPER S KID "Dare to be different" Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: australia Local Time: 12:53 PM Posts: 134 Offline	i like it !! cant wait to see it when it is finished , especially in carbon !!! also the idea about mounting the intercooler on more of an angle is pretty cool !

Jun 19th, 2006, 06:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mike Edwards MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Herefordshire Local Time: 03:53 AM Posts: 814 Offline	If you could find a way to work the profile of the inlet into something that would fit in the standard bonnet aperture? It would look a lot better than other attempts at getting more air through the stock intercooler, ought to provide similar benefits, would be much cheaper/quicker to fit than the whole bonnet approach and would have a wider market. Like the idea though - it ought to be possible to fit a 'really' big intercooler.

Jun 21st, 2006, 12:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
SofaKing MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Hood Scoop Thanks for input... I think I may have some folks confused... The goal is to have a bolt on Hood Scoop, not an entire bonnet. I will am trying to come up with a kit that allows you to cut and re-inforce the existing bonnet, then bolt on - or bond the scoop in place. I am also trying to use some of the geometry of the existing scoop apertutre to provide an anchoring point. I am also looking at some internal air damns to channel air to the correct places once the scoop has been mounted on the hood. I will update once we make some more progress... SofaKing

Jun 21st, 2006, 12:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
ScottishcooperS MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 02:53 AM Posts: 388 Offline	that looks crap a l t a - j c w - e i b a c h - u l t r a - g t t m i l l t e k - s p e e d l i n e

Jun 21st, 2006, 01:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
minicabrio Clubman Convert Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 03:53 AM Posts: 15,391 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS that looks crap That's encouragement for you.... As a work in progress it looks pretty good, I think its only fair to reserve judgement until the final result is shown

Jun 21st, 2006, 01:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 12:53 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottishcooperS that looks crap easy, Willie Black MCS

Jun 21st, 2006, 01:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 03:53 AM Posts: 3,095 Offline	lol Look OK (a bit reserved though) not really my thing as its a touch OTT bulge wise for what might be achievable with less increase in side profile ??! Not an expert and not fully understanding all of what you want to achieve with it so can't really judge too harshly. Could be a lot beter than some of the kev boy bonnet scoops on Novas and other cars so I'm up for someone having a go at fabricating something a touch more subtle for MINI users. R

Jun 21st, 2006, 02:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 12:53 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	you might wanna have a look over a NAM. I saw people discussing a air inlet and outlet like yours to aid the design of the DFIC ( a different type of intercooler that channels air straight back rather than forcing it to do a 90 deg turn. Black MCS

Jun 21st, 2006, 02:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	The back side of it needs to change IMO. The sharp edges and flat surface don't work with the lines of the MINI. Roll it off and round it out and it's look better. ?? Will the final product require removal of metal? If you want to improve air volume you'd want to open up the area under your scoop. So you would need to remove the center section of the hood. The current curve is where a good deal of the rigidity of the hood comes from. Removing that will weaken the hood so reinforcement needs to be part of the plan. If you aren't going to open it up then I can't see a large advantage to this as the volume will be quite limiting. 2.5p worth

Jun 21st, 2006, 02:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by St00ge you might wanna have a look over a NAM. I saw people discussing a air inlet and outlet like yours to aid the design of the DFIC ( a different type of intercooler that channels air straight back rather than forcing it to do a 90 deg turn. There are also a couple or designs that help the standard IC as well. None are sponsors here so the heck with them

Jun 21st, 2006, 02:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 12:53 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	yeh but they've been done to death. Ram air this n that. There is still too much blocking the underside of the TMICs. Is it possible to create some venturi effect at the back opening with a design like this you reckon? Maybe sofa wants to get in contact with them tho Black MCS

Jun 21st, 2006, 02:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jim Ray AprilWhine's Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Where the wind blows Local Time: 06:53 PM Posts: 1,548 Offline	I like it! Nice work. Go full retro, and put the guage cluster in the rear of the scoop?

Jun 21st, 2006, 02:41 PM	#18 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by St00ge yeh but they've been done to death. Ram air this n that. There is still too much blocking the underside of the TMICs. Is it possible to create some venturi effect at the back opening with a design like this you reckon? Maybe sofa wants to get in contact with them tho Exactly. That's why I was asking about removing the center of the hood for clearance. Channeling air from the rear of this scoop would be fairly easy. It would then be approaching "that other design"

Jun 21st, 2006, 03:20 PM	#19 (permalink)
minidew MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somerville, MA Local Time: 10:53 PM Posts: 34 Offline	FYI, www.myminiparts.com sells hood scoops -- not sure if it's what you're after, but just in case. Last edited by obehave : Jun 21st, 2006 at 07:38 PM. Reason: Fixed link

Jun 21st, 2006, 07:21 PM	#20 (permalink)
Restyle Damned My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Shropshire Local Time: 03:53 AM Posts: 4,319 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minidew FYI, www.myminiparts.com sells hood scoops -- not sure if it's what you're after, but just in case. I dont think you got that addy correct, Thats just a content reseller for Viagra etc <EDIT> Links been fixed now so this post makes me look proper silly In da Wud Last edited by Restyle : Jun 21st, 2006 at 08:37 PM. Reason: Found Viagra Elsewhere

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