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baldie · Feb 5th, 2002, 06:38 AM

After 3 different 'professionals' changed 3 tyres and damaged 3 wheels I started as mission to find out why.

Most tyre places (2 MINI dealers included) do not have the equipment to change runflats and WILL damage your wheel if they attempt it.

Selected HI-Q garages (owned by GoodYear) have the equipment needed.

DO NOT get your tyre replaced/fixed anywhere without the equipment - you will end up with a damaged alloy.

www.hiq-tyres.co.uk to find a store near you.

Dave

Paul · Feb 5th, 2002, 06:49 AM

Thanks for that..

Might be wort adding to the wheels FAQ too.

Basil · Feb 5th, 2002, 06:50 AM

MINIAC is trying to get information for his FAQ on this subject. I guess this sort of thing should be included in that as well.

Would BMW dealers have this sort of equipment or just farm it out ?

cheers

Basil · Feb 5th, 2002, 06:51 AM

sorry......must have posted at the same time..... AGAIN!!!

spooky......

MINIAC · Feb 5th, 2002, 02:10 PM

I'm revising the FAQ to include info on runflat tires and will include a warning regarding this.

baldie · Feb 5th, 2002, 03:09 PM

The 2 MINI dealers I have spoke to have no clue about this.

I found out by going to goodyear's website which linked to HI-Q - phoning them who immediately knew what I was talking about and told me of the closest garage with the equipment.

I have written to GoodYear also asking for an official response.

Will keep you up to date.

Much happied ordering the 16" daytonas on our replacement now.

Dave

ADO15 · Feb 7th, 2002, 12:25 PM

Does anyone know why the rims get damaged?
Or better put; What's the difference between a run-flat rim and a regulare one..?

baldie · Feb 7th, 2002, 02:59 PM

Its not the rims that are the problem.

The runflat technology is basically a very tough/reinforced sidewall which is very inflexible when removing and replacing on the rim.

The regular machines have too much flex in them so the first/last section of the sidewall to be levered onto the rim means the arm flexes and damages the rim.

Dave

MINIAC · Feb 7th, 2002, 06:49 PM

I emailed Goodyear customer relations to find out what special equipment was involved in changing runflats and here's what they had to say:

Quote:

We are unsure as to the specifics of the equipment involved. However, all locations that are certified for Extended Mobility Tire service have received specific training in addition to utilizing the latest design of tire changing equipment.

I did some calling around to tire shops in my area to find out what changers they were using for runflats:

Most were using a Coats 5065 series:

One Goodyear distributor was using a Hunter TC3500:

Hunter tire changers are certified for Goodyear runflats.

One technician I talked to said that even with the correct equipment care must be taken so the tire pressure sensors on the wheels are not damaged.

BruceK · Feb 7th, 2002, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MINIAC
...One technician I talked to said that even with the correct equipment care must be taken so the tire pressure sensors on the wheels are not damaged.

Unlike the Corvette, the MINI does not have tire pressure sensors in the wheels as it uses data from the ABS to determine low pressure.

So, the technicians can be slightly more careless with MINI wheels?

MINIAC · Feb 7th, 2002, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceK

Unlike the Corvette, the MINI does not have tire pressure sensors in the wheels as it uses data from the ABS to determine low pressure

Bruce,

Thanks for pointing that out

I've placed a FAQ on this subject in the MAINTENANCE forum and put links to it in the FAQ on factory wheels.

If anyone has any additional info on this subject, send me a private message so I can include it in the FAQ.

Feb 5th, 2002, 06:38 AM	#1
baldie MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Scotland Local Time: 11:15 PM Posts: 113 Offline	Essential Runflat Info After 3 different 'professionals' changed 3 tyres and damaged 3 wheels I started as mission to find out why. Most tyre places (2 MINI dealers included) do not have the equipment to change runflats and WILL damage your wheel if they attempt it. Selected HI-Q garages (owned by GoodYear) have the equipment needed. DO NOT get your tyre replaced/fixed anywhere without the equipment - you will end up with a damaged alloy. www.hiq-tyres.co.uk to find a store near you. Dave First Cooper REJECTED on 29th Jan Solid black with all the white bits. Chili, sunroof, MFSW, ASC&T, heater washers, ISOFIX, Computer, MiniDisc BOOST, CD changer prep - arrived 1st March. www.dave.mcrae.btinternet.co.uk

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Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:15 PM Posts: 40,356 Online	Thanks for that.. Might be wort adding to the wheels FAQ too. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Feb 5th, 2002, 03:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
baldie MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Scotland Local Time: 11:15 PM Posts: 113 Offline	The 2 MINI dealers I have spoke to have no clue about this. I found out by going to goodyear's website which linked to HI-Q - phoning them who immediately knew what I was talking about and told me of the closest garage with the equipment. I have written to GoodYear also asking for an official response. Will keep you up to date. Much happied ordering the 16" daytonas on our replacement now. Dave First Cooper REJECTED on 29th Jan Solid black with all the white bits. Chili, sunroof, MFSW, ASC&T, heater washers, ISOFIX, Computer, MiniDisc BOOST, CD changer prep - arrived 1st March. www.dave.mcrae.btinternet.co.uk

Feb 7th, 2002, 12:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
ADO15 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:15 PM Posts: 232 Offline	Does anyone know why the rims get damaged? Or better put; What's the difference between a run-flat rim and a regulare one..? "Life begins @ 7,000 rpm's"

Feb 7th, 2002, 02:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
baldie MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Scotland Local Time: 11:15 PM Posts: 113 Offline	Its not the rims that are the problem. The runflat technology is basically a very tough/reinforced sidewall which is very inflexible when removing and replacing on the rim. The regular machines have too much flex in them so the first/last section of the sidewall to be levered onto the rim means the arm flexes and damages the rim. Dave First Cooper REJECTED on 29th Jan Solid black with all the white bits. Chili, sunroof, MFSW, ASC&T, heater washers, ISOFIX, Computer, MiniDisc BOOST, CD changer prep - arrived 1st March. www.dave.mcrae.btinternet.co.uk

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Feb 5th, 2002, 06:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 09:15 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	MINIAC is trying to get information for his FAQ on this subject. I guess this sort of thing should be included in that as well. Would BMW dealers have this sort of equipment or just farm it out ? cheers

Feb 5th, 2002, 06:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 09:15 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	sorry......must have posted at the same time..... AGAIN!!! spooky......

Feb 5th, 2002, 02:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 03:15 PM Posts: 8,619 Online	I'm revising the FAQ to include info on runflat tires and will include a warning regarding this.

Feb 7th, 2002, 06:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 03:15 PM Posts: 8,619 Online	I emailed Goodyear customer relations to find out what special equipment was involved in changing runflats and here's what they had to say: Quote: We are unsure as to the specifics of the equipment involved. However, all locations that are certified for Extended Mobility Tire service have received specific training in addition to utilizing the latest design of tire changing equipment. I did some calling around to tire shops in my area to find out what changers they were using for runflats: Most were using a Coats 5065 series: One Goodyear distributor was using a Hunter TC3500: Hunter tire changers are certified for Goodyear runflats. One technician I talked to said that even with the correct equipment care must be taken so the tire pressure sensors on the wheels are not damaged.

Feb 7th, 2002, 07:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 3,758 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by MINIAC ...One technician I talked to said that even with the correct equipment care must be taken so the tire pressure sensors on the wheels are not damaged. Unlike the Corvette, the MINI does not have tire pressure sensors in the wheels as it uses data from the ABS to determine low pressure. So, the technicians can be slightly more careless with MINI wheels? + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Feb 7th, 2002, 09:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 03:15 PM Posts: 8,619 Online	Quote: Originally posted by BruceK Unlike the Corvette, the MINI does not have tire pressure sensors in the wheels as it uses data from the ABS to determine low pressure Bruce, Thanks for pointing that out I've placed a FAQ on this subject in the MAINTENANCE forum and put links to it in the FAQ on factory wheels. If anyone has any additional info on this subject, send me a private message so I can include it in the FAQ.

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