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Coopergeezer · Sep 15th, 2003, 07:21 PM

Hello there,
I have just placed an order for a Pure Silver/Black Mini Cooper. However, after reading different threads on this board, I have become rather concerned with the "mottle effect" people have experienced on Pure Silver Mini's. Does this problem still exist? Are there any Silver Mini owners who have not experienced this problem?

Have BMW have managed to sort out this defect?

Hope someone can help

Cheers

Coopergeezer

KenL · Sep 15th, 2003, 07:27 PM

My July 2002 ONE does not suffer from this.

Might be worthwhile asking your dealer to get onto MINI HQ to ask what the latest is on whether it could still be a problem.

Email them a link from MINI2 threads in case they haven't heard of it.

Paul · Sep 15th, 2003, 07:41 PM

I don't own a silver MINI, but I've driven and washed a few, and I've not really seen a problem with the silver paint on any of them.

minicoopercrazy · Sep 15th, 2003, 07:54 PM

HI I've had my pure silver mini since dec02 from new and not noticesed any problems with the paint work

bkwalker · Sep 16th, 2003, 08:13 AM

ive heard of this "tiger stripe" effect... ive got a jul 02 build Pure silver S and i cant see anything!

someone was saying that you can notice it when the car is in full sun and you are around dark objects !! WEIRD!!! haha i didn't take much notice of this comment,... and i dont think u should either

jorenehatch · Sep 16th, 2003, 10:47 AM

I've had my pure silver MINI since Feb and haven't noticed any paint problems.

NED · Sep 16th, 2003, 11:40 AM

Did try and find out more about this from my Dad a while back as he's involved with the panel manufacture, but the paint isn't part of that so drew a blank.

Anyway, just so this post isn't completely pointless, my Pure silver One is Nov 2002 and is fine.

Over and out

Coopergeezer · Sep 16th, 2003, 09:14 PM

Thanks for the replies. I found out since starting this thread that my brothers housemate works at the plant and works on paint quality control. He has not heard of any issues with silver, but has said that recently they have changed the procedure for quality checking on all paint colours.

R1 · Sep 16th, 2003, 10:02 PM

If my MINI (April '02) has got the mottled paint, I haven't noticed it!

Paul · Sep 16th, 2003, 10:22 PM

How many people can we find who have relatives at the plant in one thread?

cjay · Sep 16th, 2003, 10:48 PM

[quote=Coopergeezer]Hello there,
I have just placed an order for a Pure Silver/Black Mini Cooper. However, after reading different threads on this board, I have become rather concerned with the "mottle effect" people have experienced on Pure Silver Mini's. Does this problem still exist? Are there any Silver Mini owners who have not experienced this problem?

Have BMW have managed to sort out this defect?

Hope someone can help

Cheers

Coopergeezer[/QUOTE

Hi Coopergeezer

The problem does still exist in this part of the world, all you have to do is walk into a dealer on a sunny day and have a good look at a PS. Some cars here are an older build date so that may explain it. We recently had a run and 7 PS MINI's turned up, all of them had mottle. The problem is very obvious if you have an eye for detail.

There is no point in asking MINI if they have solved the problem as they say the mottle meets BMW standards, and yes they admit PS's have mottle.

If anyone has connections to people in the paint plant I'd love to talk to them!

My PS was so bad I sold it and got a CR/W.

KenL · Sep 16th, 2003, 10:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cjay

My PS was so bad I sold it and got a CR/W.

Can't help thinking it couldn't have been that bad otherwise you wouldn't have been able to sell it

cjay · Sep 16th, 2003, 11:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by KenL

Can't help thinking it couldn't have been that bad otherwise you wouldn't have been able to sell it

The dealer brought it back off me after I threatened to go to the media and tell them about the poor paint on MINI's

We have no lemon laws in this country so it was the only way to get something done.

I did try and sell it privately but no one was interested

Spy Car · Sep 17th, 2003, 01:16 AM

The sun is known to shine here in California...but I've never seen any mottling.

Pflashinaz · Sep 17th, 2003, 02:17 AM

No problems with PS/Blk here in Arizona. July 02 build.

cjay · Sep 17th, 2003, 03:47 AM

Maybe they send all the crap Pure Silver ones to Australia because we keep beating them at Cricket

MiniAdventurer · Sep 17th, 2003, 09:57 AM

i have a PS ONE, 03 reg, and if it's mottled i haven't noticed it

Justphilip · Mar 23rd, 2004, 08:00 PM

I have a PS '03 MINI S with the mottle effect it is annoying but the dealer said that is just a thing that happens with all silver BMW's, I find this hard to belive. People spending fourty and fifty large for a car will not accept this defect and niether should we MINI owners. Don't really know what to do.

My car was built in March 2003

cjay · Mar 23rd, 2004, 08:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Justphilip

I have a PS '03 MINI S with the mottle effect it is annoying but the dealer said that is just a thing that happens with all silver BMW's, I find this hard to belive. People spending fourty and fifty large for a car will not accept this defect and niether should we MINI owners. Don't really know what to do.

My car was built in March 2003

Tell your dealer he's full of crap!

It appears to be one of the standard lies dealers tell people. When they tried to tell me all BMW's had mottle I asked them to park a silver 7 and 5 series next to my car so we could compare them.... they would not do it, because they do not have mottle!

If you have a look at an 04 PS MINI it will probably look fine, they had so many complaints I think they have fixed the problem.

You have lemon laws... use them

Justphilip · Mar 23rd, 2004, 11:01 PM

I appreciate you writing, I didn't think anyone was using this thread anymore, the last writings were quite some time ago.
I'm not sure i want to reopen this can of worms, my big worry is the mottling will hurt my resale value and that would suck!

Without rereading the whole thread, what did your dealer do for you? and how long did you have your car. MIne is 11 months old and nearly 15,000 miles.

Thanks,

Sep 15th, 2003, 07:21 PM	#1
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 243 Offline	Calling all Silver Owners Hello there, I have just placed an order for a Pure Silver/Black Mini Cooper. However, after reading different threads on this board, I have become rather concerned with the "mottle effect" people have experienced on Pure Silver Mini's. Does this problem still exist? Are there any Silver Mini owners who have not experienced this problem? Have BMW have managed to sort out this defect? Hope someone can help Cheers Coopergeezer Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

Sep 15th, 2003, 07:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 5,102 Offline	My July 2002 ONE does not suffer from this. Might be worthwhile asking your dealer to get onto MINI HQ to ask what the latest is on whether it could still be a problem. Email them a link from MINI2 threads in case they haven't heard of it. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Sep 15th, 2003, 07:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 40,356 Online	I don't own a silver MINI, but I've driven and washed a few, and I've not really seen a problem with the silver paint on any of them. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Sep 16th, 2003, 08:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
bkwalker The Silverado Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 09:23 AM Posts: 804 Offline	ive heard of this "tiger stripe" effect... ive got a jul 02 build Pure silver S and i cant see anything! someone was saying that you can notice it when the car is in full sun and you are around dark objects !! WEIRD!!! haha i didn't take much notice of this comment,... and i dont think u should either benno

Sep 16th, 2003, 09:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 243 Offline	Thanks for the replies. I found out since starting this thread that my brothers housemate works at the plant and works on paint quality control. He has not heard of any issues with silver, but has said that recently they have changed the procedure for quality checking on all paint colours. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

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Sep 15th, 2003, 07:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
minicoopercrazy MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 12:23 AM Posts: 1 Offline	HI I've had my pure silver mini since dec02 from new and not noticesed any problems with the paint work

Sep 16th, 2003, 10:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
jorenehatch MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Westerville,OH Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 5 Offline	I've had my pure silver MINI since Feb and haven't noticed any paint problems.

Sep 16th, 2003, 11:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
NED Fried Gold Join Date: Dec 2002 Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 763 Offline	Did try and find out more about this from my Dad a while back as he's involved with the panel manufacture, but the paint isn't part of that so drew a blank. Anyway, just so this post isn't completely pointless, my Pure silver One is Nov 2002 and is fine. Over and out

Sep 16th, 2003, 10:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 4,866 Offline	If my MINI (April '02) has got the mottled paint, I haven't noticed it!

Sep 16th, 2003, 10:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 40,356 Online	How many people can we find who have relatives at the plant in one thread? Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Sep 16th, 2003, 10:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
cjay "No Works for me!" Join Date: Jan 2003 Local Time: 09:23 AM Posts: 481 Offline	[quote=Coopergeezer]Hello there, I have just placed an order for a Pure Silver/Black Mini Cooper. However, after reading different threads on this board, I have become rather concerned with the "mottle effect" people have experienced on Pure Silver Mini's. Does this problem still exist? Are there any Silver Mini owners who have not experienced this problem? Have BMW have managed to sort out this defect? Hope someone can help Cheers Coopergeezer[/QUOTE Hi Coopergeezer The problem does still exist in this part of the world, all you have to do is walk into a dealer on a sunny day and have a good look at a PS. Some cars here are an older build date so that may explain it. We recently had a run and 7 PS MINI's turned up, all of them had mottle. The problem is very obvious if you have an eye for detail. There is no point in asking MINI if they have solved the problem as they say the mottle meets BMW standards, and yes they admit PS's have mottle. If anyone has connections to people in the paint plant I'd love to talk to them! My PS was so bad I sold it and got a CR/W.

Sep 16th, 2003, 10:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 5,102 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cjay My PS was so bad I sold it and got a CR/W. Can't help thinking it couldn't have been that bad otherwise you wouldn't have been able to sell it Red/Black R56 Cooper

Sep 16th, 2003, 11:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
cjay "No Works for me!" Join Date: Jan 2003 Local Time: 09:23 AM Posts: 481 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KenL Can't help thinking it couldn't have been that bad otherwise you wouldn't have been able to sell it The dealer brought it back off me after I threatened to go to the media and tell them about the poor paint on MINI's We have no lemon laws in this country so it was the only way to get something done. I did try and sell it privately but no one was interested

Sep 17th, 2003, 01:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
Spy Car I miss Ruthie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of the Angels Local Time: 03:23 PM Posts: 6,425 Offline	The sun is known to shine here in California...but I've never seen any mottling.

Sep 17th, 2003, 02:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
Pflashinaz Classic & New Owner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Beautiful Arizona,US Local Time: 04:23 PM Posts: 93 Offline	No problems with PS/Blk here in Arizona. July 02 build. Dynamic MiNi Collective

Sep 17th, 2003, 03:47 AM	#16 (permalink)
cjay "No Works for me!" Join Date: Jan 2003 Local Time: 09:23 AM Posts: 481 Offline	Maybe they send all the crap Pure Silver ones to Australia because we keep beating them at Cricket

Sep 17th, 2003, 09:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
MiniAdventurer mysterious girl Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the library... Local Time: 12:23 AM Posts: 7,899 Offline	i have a PS ONE, 03 reg, and if it's mottled i haven't noticed it

Mar 23rd, 2004, 08:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
Justphilip MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 11 Offline	I have a PS '03 MINI S with the mottle effect it is annoying but the dealer said that is just a thing that happens with all silver BMW's, I find this hard to belive. People spending fourty and fifty large for a car will not accept this defect and niether should we MINI owners. Don't really know what to do. My car was built in March 2003 2003 MCS Pure Silver/Blk. Sports Premium

Mar 23rd, 2004, 08:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
cjay "No Works for me!" Join Date: Jan 2003 Local Time: 09:23 AM Posts: 481 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Justphilip I have a PS '03 MINI S with the mottle effect it is annoying but the dealer said that is just a thing that happens with all silver BMW's, I find this hard to belive. People spending fourty and fifty large for a car will not accept this defect and niether should we MINI owners. Don't really know what to do. My car was built in March 2003 Tell your dealer he's full of crap! It appears to be one of the standard lies dealers tell people. When they tried to tell me all BMW's had mottle I asked them to park a silver 7 and 5 series next to my car so we could compare them.... they would not do it, because they do not have mottle! If you have a look at an 04 PS MINI it will probably look fine, they had so many complaints I think they have fixed the problem. You have lemon laws... use them

Mar 23rd, 2004, 11:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
Justphilip MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Local Time: 11:23 PM Posts: 11 Offline	I appreciate you writing, I didn't think anyone was using this thread anymore, the last writings were quite some time ago. I'm not sure i want to reopen this can of worms, my big worry is the mottling will hurt my resale value and that would suck! Without rereading the whole thread, what did your dealer do for you? and how long did you have your car. MIne is 11 months old and nearly 15,000 miles. Thanks, 2003 MCS Pure Silver/Blk. Sports Premium

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