MINI2

Electrc109 · Nov 18th, 2003, 02:51 AM

I've seen the black/silver + checkers MINI with a wide arch kit, and would like to see another car with this kit installed. Anyone out there have one?

Electrc109 · Nov 19th, 2003, 08:40 PM

burp!

oops, I mean bump.

Electrc109 · Nov 21st, 2003, 06:25 PM

=( noone out there has bought the wide arch kit? has anyone at least seen it in person?

Hobbe · Nov 21st, 2003, 06:41 PM

Ahhhhh, a picture of the famous 2004 antenna

LuckyRVA · Nov 21st, 2003, 06:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hobbe

Ahhhhh, a picture of the famous 2004 antenna

LOL

To stay on topic...sorry never seen it.

-Jason

Goonery · Nov 21st, 2003, 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hobbe

Ahhhhh, a picture of the famous 2004 antenna

Heres one, and no it is NOT , I repeat NOT NOT NOT me and the wife

Electrc109 · Nov 22nd, 2003, 01:36 PM

Well, this isn't the same kit i had in mind, but it does kind of give me an idea of what a wide kit will look like.

This is the kit I am looking for another pic of....

olddad · Nov 24th, 2003, 08:20 AM

That is $600 for plastic spats! Might not be a lot of cars with them.

Electrc109 · Nov 24th, 2003, 05:20 PM

spats? what is a spat?

Thats $600 for a 2-3 inch wider track, and I didn't have to build anything....

obehave · Nov 24th, 2003, 05:59 PM

That's the Breyton Kit.
Nobody has posted anything about it on their car that I've ever read. It's the only one I've ever seen that doesn't look crap.

Electrc109 · Nov 24th, 2003, 11:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

That's the Breyton Kit.
Nobody has posted anything about it on their car that I've ever read. It's the only one I've ever seen that doesn't look crap.

yay, the only good looking kit and it seems that nobody cares...I guess I have to buy the kit and show everyone what they're missing out on...

minimaster · Nov 25th, 2003, 03:28 AM

I don't think anyone has it, because it might not be available or completed yet?

Electrc109 · Nov 25th, 2003, 05:28 AM

no, its been available for quite awhile... new.minimania.com

basserk · Nov 26th, 2003, 09:42 AM

I just had the Breyton flares painted and installed on my '03 MINI:

http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...ery_14375.html

The wheels in the photos are 17" Fittipaldis - They a friend's, we just fitted them for the photo. I'm still shopping for the perfect set.

obehave · Nov 26th, 2003, 12:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by basserk

I just had the Breyton flares painted and installed on my '03 MINI:

http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...ery_14375.html

The wheels in the photos are 17" Fittipaldis - They a friend's, we just fitted them for the photo. I'm still shopping for the perfect set.

Excellent.
Definitely begging for more meat underneath. I realize shading in the pic may effect appearance some.
Need a straight on pic to show the tire set. That way you know how much you can change the offset to push the tires out a bit, if needed.
What color/texture do they come with from the factory?

Oh! Welcome to the site. Nice first post

Edit:
Ooops! Just went to your gallery. Definitely need less positive offset.

Electrc109 · Nov 26th, 2003, 12:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by basserk

I just had the Breyton flares painted and installed on my '03 MINI:

http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...ery_14375.html

The wheels in the photos are 17" Fittipaldis - They a friend's, we just fitted them for the photo. I'm still shopping for the perfect set.

Hey, welcome to MINI2!!

I'd be really interested in discussing wheel size and offset for the breyton wide arch kit. I have an idea of what I will be looking for, but still need to do the math.

Oh, and thanks for the pic! I've been really anxious to see a good picture...

basserk · Nov 26th, 2003, 08:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

Excellent.
Definitely begging for more meat underneath. I realize shading in the pic may effect appearance some.
Need a straight on pic to show the tire set. That way you know how much you can change the offset to push the tires out a bit, if needed.
What color/texture do they come with from the factory?

Oh! Welcome to the site. Nice first post

Edit:
Ooops! Just went to your gallery. Definitely need less positive offset.

=========

The tires he's got are 205/45's, I think he needed at least 215's. I'm considering getting 17x7.5 with 215/45/17, with wheel spacers if necessary - I'm concerned about roughness on ride so didn't want to go 18's. Think I can swing going 17x8's?

basserk · Nov 26th, 2003, 08:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Electrc109

Hey, welcome to MINI2!!

I'd be really interested in discussing wheel size and offset for the breyton wide arch kit. I have an idea of what I will be looking for, but still need to do the math.

Oh, and thanks for the pic! I've been really anxious to see a good picture...

===

Thanks for the warm welcomes, guys! I believe the straight-ahead shot still has my stock wheels on there, which are the 15's, so that shot's not representative. He only actually installed the wheels on the right side to see how they would look. They're nice, but I'll probably be getting an 8-spoke set... Haven't seen any great posts on aftermarket wheels in these forums yet.

Electrc109 · Nov 26th, 2003, 10:04 PM

You might want to get as great a negative offset as desired rather than spacers. I don't know how much of a change in offset is safe, but a negative change in offset provides for a wider stance.

How much bigger are these arches?

There is a 45mm (1.77 in) positive offset for a 15 in. stock wheel. 1/2 the increase in rim width plus the change in offset plus tire width increase plus any additional widening desired

here is a description of how offset is measured

With 15 x 6.5 wheels,
upgrading to 7 in wide adds 1/4 in (6.35mm) outward leaving 44.5mm to account for,
7.5 in wide adds 1/2 in (12.7mm) outward leaving 38.15mm to account for,
8 in wide wheels adds 3/4 in outward leaving 31.8mm to account for.

A change in offset or a wider tire width can more than cover the 45-30mm or whatever the case may be.

15 x 6.5 in wheels come with 175 series tires
16 x 6.5 in wheels come with 195 series tires
17 x 7 in wheels come with 205 series tires

7 in = 177.8mm
7.5 in = 190.5mm
8 in = 203.2mm

I'm almost to the point of opening up excel and making a spreadsheet....well, what I'm getting at here is that there are lots of ways to fill out the extra couple inches the breyton arches create.

phong13 · Nov 26th, 2003, 10:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by goonery

Heres one, and no it is NOT , I repeat NOT NOT NOT me and the wife

IMHO... that's just plain ugly. I was talking about the body kit and not the people.

Nov 18th, 2003, 02:51 AM	#1
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	Wide Arch Kit I've seen the black/silver + checkers MINI with a wide arch kit, and would like to see another car with this kit installed. Anyone out there have one?

Nov 21st, 2003, 06:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hobbe Absolut MINI Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Stockholm Local Time: 01:10 AM Posts: 729 Offline	Ahhhhh, a picture of the famous 2004 antenna MCS WORKS GP 0120 WWW.BMWSC.COM

Nov 21st, 2003, 06:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
LuckyRVA 1.6 Litres of fury!!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Queens, NYC Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 1,277 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hobbe Ahhhhh, a picture of the famous 2004 antenna LOL To stay on topic...sorry never seen it. -Jason 2002 Dark Silver Cooper S w/ white roof. SOLD

Nov 24th, 2003, 08:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
olddad MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Yreka, CA Local Time: 04:10 PM Posts: 434 Offline	That is $600 for plastic spats! Might not be a lot of cars with them. Cooper S Red/White/White, Air, Computer, Cloth, DSC, Cold Weather. August build.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

MINI2

Fuel for your MINI obsession

From bodykits to bonnet stripes, discuss them here

Today
Sponsors	Sponsored Links Registered members do not see Google Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts. Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum

Nov 19th, 2003, 08:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	burp! oops, I mean bump.

Nov 21st, 2003, 06:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	=( noone out there has bought the wide arch kit? has anyone at least seen it in person?

Nov 21st, 2003, 06:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Goonery You can put lipstick on.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 12:10 AM Posts: 13,694 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hobbe Ahhhhh, a picture of the famous 2004 antenna Heres one, and no it is NOT , I repeat NOT NOT NOT me and the wife

Nov 22nd, 2003, 01:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	Well, this isn't the same kit i had in mind, but it does kind of give me an idea of what a wide kit will look like. This is the kit I am looking for another pic of....

Nov 24th, 2003, 05:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	spats? what is a spat? Thats $600 for a 2-3 inch wider track, and I didn't have to build anything....

Nov 24th, 2003, 05:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	That's the Breyton Kit. Nobody has posted anything about it on their car that I've ever read. It's the only one I've ever seen that doesn't look crap.

Nov 24th, 2003, 11:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave That's the Breyton Kit. Nobody has posted anything about it on their car that I've ever read. It's the only one I've ever seen that doesn't look crap. yay, the only good looking kit and it seems that nobody cares...I guess I have to buy the kit and show everyone what they're missing out on...

Nov 25th, 2003, 03:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
minimaster MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal Local Time: 03:10 PM Posts: 174 Offline	I don't think anyone has it, because it might not be available or completed yet?

Nov 25th, 2003, 05:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	no, its been available for quite awhile... new.minimania.com

Nov 26th, 2003, 09:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
basserk BIGGIE MINI Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Local Time: 04:10 PM Posts: 36 Offline	I just had the Breyton flares painted and installed on my '03 MINI: http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...ery_14375.html The wheels in the photos are 17" Fittipaldis - They a friend's, we just fitted them for the photo. I'm still shopping for the perfect set.

Nov 26th, 2003, 12:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by basserk I just had the Breyton flares painted and installed on my '03 MINI: http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...ery_14375.html The wheels in the photos are 17" Fittipaldis - They a friend's, we just fitted them for the photo. I'm still shopping for the perfect set. Excellent. Definitely begging for more meat underneath. I realize shading in the pic may effect appearance some. Need a straight on pic to show the tire set. That way you know how much you can change the offset to push the tires out a bit, if needed. What color/texture do they come with from the factory? Oh! Welcome to the site. Nice first post Edit: Ooops! Just went to your gallery. Definitely need less positive offset.

Nov 26th, 2003, 12:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by basserk I just had the Breyton flares painted and installed on my '03 MINI: http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...ery_14375.html The wheels in the photos are 17" Fittipaldis - They a friend's, we just fitted them for the photo. I'm still shopping for the perfect set. Hey, welcome to MINI2!! I'd be really interested in discussing wheel size and offset for the breyton wide arch kit. I have an idea of what I will be looking for, but still need to do the math. Oh, and thanks for the pic! I've been really anxious to see a good picture...

Nov 26th, 2003, 08:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
basserk BIGGIE MINI Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Local Time: 04:10 PM Posts: 36 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave Excellent. Definitely begging for more meat underneath. I realize shading in the pic may effect appearance some. Need a straight on pic to show the tire set. That way you know how much you can change the offset to push the tires out a bit, if needed. What color/texture do they come with from the factory? Oh! Welcome to the site. Nice first post Edit: Ooops! Just went to your gallery. Definitely need less positive offset. ========= The tires he's got are 205/45's, I think he needed at least 215's. I'm considering getting 17x7.5 with 215/45/17, with wheel spacers if necessary - I'm concerned about roughness on ride so didn't want to go 18's. Think I can swing going 17x8's?

Nov 26th, 2003, 08:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
basserk BIGGIE MINI Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Local Time: 04:10 PM Posts: 36 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Electrc109 Hey, welcome to MINI2!! I'd be really interested in discussing wheel size and offset for the breyton wide arch kit. I have an idea of what I will be looking for, but still need to do the math. Oh, and thanks for the pic! I've been really anxious to see a good picture... === Thanks for the warm welcomes, guys! I believe the straight-ahead shot still has my stock wheels on there, which are the 15's, so that shot's not representative. He only actually installed the wheels on the right side to see how they would look. They're nice, but I'll probably be getting an 8-spoke set... Haven't seen any great posts on aftermarket wheels in these forums yet.

Nov 26th, 2003, 10:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
Electrc109 DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ormond by the Sea FL Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 696 Offline	You might want to get as great a negative offset as desired rather than spacers. I don't know how much of a change in offset is safe, but a negative change in offset provides for a wider stance. How much bigger are these arches? There is a 45mm (1.77 in) positive offset for a 15 in. stock wheel. 1/2 the increase in rim width plus the change in offset plus tire width increase plus any additional widening desired here is a description of how offset is measured With 15 x 6.5 wheels, upgrading to 7 in wide adds 1/4 in (6.35mm) outward leaving 44.5mm to account for, 7.5 in wide adds 1/2 in (12.7mm) outward leaving 38.15mm to account for, 8 in wide wheels adds 3/4 in outward leaving 31.8mm to account for. A change in offset or a wider tire width can more than cover the 45-30mm or whatever the case may be. 15 x 6.5 in wheels come with 175 series tires 16 x 6.5 in wheels come with 195 series tires 17 x 7 in wheels come with 205 series tires 7 in = 177.8mm 7.5 in = 190.5mm 8 in = 203.2mm I'm almost to the point of opening up excel and making a spreadsheet....well, what I'm getting at here is that there are lots of ways to fill out the extra couple inches the breyton arches create.

Nov 26th, 2003, 10:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
phong13 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 03:10 PM Posts: 135 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by goonery Heres one, and no it is NOT , I repeat NOT NOT NOT me and the wife IMHO... that's just plain ugly. I was talking about the body kit and not the people.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
pilo wide arch kit	nomonstersinme	Exterior	1	Jul 22nd, 2005 05:14 AM
Breyton wide arch problem!!	Emre Gulkan	Exterior	0	Apr 15th, 2005 05:35 PM
wide arches for aero kit	KJ_daGreenMini	Exterior	0	Mar 10th, 2005 03:48 PM
Breyton Wide Body Kit in US YAY!	ARitz	Exterior	7	Mar 13th, 2003 09:31 PM