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mikeythemini · Dec 3rd, 2003, 09:53 PM

Just got some replacement LED sidelight bulbs into stock.
The light they give is much whiter - matches the xenons better
BUT they don't seem as bright
If that makes any sense
Left is factory, right is LED

Restyle · Dec 3rd, 2003, 10:43 PM

Hi Mikey
Although looking cool, do they cast much Light onto the road ?

mikeythemini · Dec 3rd, 2003, 10:53 PM

No, but then again sidelights are not meant to, I am just worried they will not be bright enough to be seen in bad weather without headlights.
Plus they are not legal

Razor · Dec 4th, 2003, 12:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mikeythemini

I am just worried they will not be bright enough to be seen in bad weather without headlights.
Plus they are not legal

So what's the point of 'em then?

bards · Dec 4th, 2003, 01:00 PM

Ive got some PIAA LED sidelights, have had them in for about 8 months with no troubles, they seem bright, just they are quite directional, when you are level with the bulb they are blindingly bright!, but when looking at them from any other angle i would say they are just as bright as other sidelights. I have them because I think they look better, but thats my opinion, as the original mini sidelights have quite a yellow tinge to them.

I also have some Philips Blue Vision Ultra headlight bulbs, which are legal and they seem to give better performance than the standard items, I will try and put a pic in my gallery of the lighting.

Nick

Skinnyrunt · Dec 4th, 2003, 01:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by nickbardsley

Ive got some PIAA LED sidelights, have had them in for about 8 months with no troubles, they seem bright, just they are quite directional, when you are level with the bulb they are blindingly bright!, but when looking at them from any other angle i would say they are just as bright as other sidelights. I have them because I think they look better, but thats my opinion, as the original mini sidelights have quite a yellow tinge to them.

Nick

Couldn't agree more

Damo · Dec 4th, 2003, 10:15 PM

I got some LED side lights which had 4 White LED's but they didn't match to well with my Non Xenon lights so changed them for some Philips Blue Vision Side lights. They match better witht the normal lights, but

when not on you can see the Blue Coated bulb through the Lens.

Hopefully the 4 LED ones will go well with the Xenons on the new one. Roll on 16th!!

Root Ginger · Dec 5th, 2003, 01:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by mikeythemini

The light they give is much whiter - matches the xenons better
BUT they don't seem as bright

If you want brighter lights you need the 6 LED versions rather than the 4. These are pretty similar to side lights off axis but can be blinding if viewed directly on axis!

Thameth · Dec 5th, 2003, 03:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge

If you want brighter lights you need the 6 LED versions rather than the 4. These are pretty similar to side lights off axis but can be blinding if viewed directly on axis!

Where would u get the 6 LED version bulbs? Also how much do they cost and are they super white and clear when not in use?

mikeythemini · Dec 5th, 2003, 07:55 PM

mmm, 6 led ones, my supplier only does 1 & 3 versions. Better get on the phone

Root Ginger · Dec 5th, 2003, 08:36 PM

Check out the page here . Loads of 12V LED bulbs. For stop lights, tail lights, side lights, interior lights, the works.

MINI would look cool equipped with LED brake and tail lights!

GadgetGav · Dec 6th, 2003, 12:02 PM

Watch out guys... as someone I work with enjoys telling people, these super birght LEDs are brighter than the sun...! What he means is that the light output per square mm reaching your eye from an LED at arm's length can be more than looking at the sun that's X million miles away. LEDs also have a very narrow cone angle where all their output is concentrated (typically 20 degrees). Be very careful looking directly into the newer generations lf LEDs. I don't know that you could do permanent damage, but they really are blindingly bright.

Root Ginger · Dec 6th, 2003, 07:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav

Watch out guys... as someone I work with enjoys telling people, these super birght LEDs are brighter than the sun...! What he means is that the light output per square mm reaching your eye from an LED at arm's length can be more than looking at the sun that's X million miles away. LEDs also have a very narrow cone angle where all their output is concentrated (typically 20 degrees). Be very careful looking directly into the newer generations lf LEDs. I don't know that you could do permanent damage, but they really are blindingly bright.

Yeah could agree more. Most of the bulbs on here are wide angle as they're designed for automotive use but be careful.

I got some super bright LED's and they left spots before my eyes for a while when they accidently flashed during installation. If you want to test if they're working point them away towards something black. It'll be enough to see the reflection, but not enough to hurt your eyes

I now have some on order from America that are 10 times brighter than these super bright LED's

They are the brightest LED's available in the world! Just using them in a little project of mine. I'll post more details once it's been done

GadgetGav · Dec 6th, 2003, 07:28 PM

We've got some at work that come mounted on a heatsink...!
They are BRIGHT..!!!

Root Ginger · Dec 6th, 2003, 11:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav

We've got some at work that come mounted on a heatsink...!
They are BRIGHT..!!!

Yeah I've seen those ones. Bit old now though I saw them on an LED museum site (I kid you not!) The ones I'm getting don't require heat sinks and they don't really look like conventional LED's. I'll post pics when they eventually arrive!

Minty · Dec 8th, 2003, 09:45 PM

mine are twin led side lights. bright enuff for what i need.
my mate got quad leds for his 306 gti6 and blew one within a week.

GadgetGav · Dec 8th, 2003, 10:13 PM

Here's the link for the really, really bright ones we have at work. They are used in some automotive applications, but not all LED bulbs are created equal...

johnlondonw3 · Dec 12th, 2003, 01:43 PM

I'm lost now,..............I want to change the bulbs in my ,MCS its 4 weeks old,side lights for ones which are the same colour and intesity as the main beams( Xenons)......which should I buy,where do I get them from ?
Thanks

bards · Dec 14th, 2003, 10:19 AM

I have just taken a pic of the led sidelights in my car, they are PIAA. Which I recommend as I had another make at first and they kept blowing, I swapped to PIAA and had no trouble.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...id=26674&stc=1

Root Ginger · Dec 15th, 2003, 09:42 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav

Here's the link for the really, really bright ones we have at work. They are used in some automotive applications, but not all LED bulbs are created equal...

GadgetGav they are the same ones I'm on about. Mine haven't got a heatsink though???

Dec 3rd, 2003, 09:53 PM	#1
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 9,132 Offline	LED sidelights Just got some replacement LED sidelight bulbs into stock. The light they give is much whiter - matches the xenons better BUT they don't seem as bright If that makes any sense Left is factory, right is LED Attached Thumbnails Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

Dec 3rd, 2003, 10:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Restyle Damned My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Shropshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 4,319 Offline	Hi Mikey Although looking cool, do they cast much Light onto the road ? In da Wud

Dec 3rd, 2003, 10:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 9,132 Offline	No, but then again sidelights are not meant to, I am just worried they will not be bright enough to be seen in bad weather without headlights. Plus they are not legal Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

Dec 4th, 2003, 01:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
bards Clio 197 R27 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: West Yorkshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 2,283 Offline	Ive got some PIAA LED sidelights, have had them in for about 8 months with no troubles, they seem bright, just they are quite directional, when you are level with the bulb they are blindingly bright!, but when looking at them from any other angle i would say they are just as bright as other sidelights. I have them because I think they look better, but thats my opinion, as the original mini sidelights have quite a yellow tinge to them. I also have some Philips Blue Vision Ultra headlight bulbs, which are legal and they seem to give better performance than the standard items, I will try and put a pic in my gallery of the lighting. Nick flickr :: You Tube

Dec 5th, 2003, 01:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mikeythemini The light they give is much whiter - matches the xenons better BUT they don't seem as bright If you want brighter lights you need the 6 LED versions rather than the 4. These are pretty similar to side lights off axis but can be blinding if viewed directly on axis! It was acceptable in the 80's

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Dec 4th, 2003, 12:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Razor MINI2 Scooterist Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pudsey, Leeds Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 792 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mikeythemini I am just worried they will not be bright enough to be seen in bad weather without headlights. Plus they are not legal So what's the point of 'em then?

Dec 4th, 2003, 01:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Skinnyrunt M2 Bapmaster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cheshire/staffs bord Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 3,145 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by nickbardsley Ive got some PIAA LED sidelights, have had them in for about 8 months with no troubles, they seem bright, just they are quite directional, when you are level with the bulb they are blindingly bright!, but when looking at them from any other angle i would say they are just as bright as other sidelights. I have them because I think they look better, but thats my opinion, as the original mini sidelights have quite a yellow tinge to them. Nick Couldn't agree more

Dec 4th, 2003, 10:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 10,666 Offline	I got some LED side lights which had 4 White LED's but they didn't match to well with my Non Xenon lights so changed them for some Philips Blue Vision Side lights. They match better witht the normal lights, but when not on you can see the Blue Coated bulb through the Lens. Hopefully the 4 LED ones will go well with the Xenons on the new one. Roll on 16th!!

Dec 5th, 2003, 03:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Thameth MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Miami Beach, F Local Time: 04:26 PM Posts: 36 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge If you want brighter lights you need the 6 LED versions rather than the 4. These are pretty similar to side lights off axis but can be blinding if viewed directly on axis! Where would u get the 6 LED version bulbs? Also how much do they cost and are they super white and clear when not in use? PW/PW MCS Premium Pkg Xenon Fog Lights SVT Focus -> MCS \| [url]www.Focaljet.com[url] Administrator

Dec 5th, 2003, 07:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 9,132 Offline	mmm, 6 led ones, my supplier only does 1 & 3 versions. Better get on the phone Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

Dec 5th, 2003, 08:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Check out the page here . Loads of 12V LED bulbs. For stop lights, tail lights, side lights, interior lights, the works. MINI would look cool equipped with LED brake and tail lights! It was acceptable in the 80's

Dec 6th, 2003, 12:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 05:26 PM Posts: 6,112 Offline	Watch out guys... as someone I work with enjoys telling people, these super birght LEDs are brighter than the sun...! What he means is that the light output per square mm reaching your eye from an LED at arm's length can be more than looking at the sun that's X million miles away. LEDs also have a very narrow cone angle where all their output is concentrated (typically 20 degrees). Be very careful looking directly into the newer generations lf LEDs. I don't know that you could do permanent damage, but they really are blindingly bright.

Dec 6th, 2003, 07:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav Watch out guys... as someone I work with enjoys telling people, these super birght LEDs are brighter than the sun...! What he means is that the light output per square mm reaching your eye from an LED at arm's length can be more than looking at the sun that's X million miles away. LEDs also have a very narrow cone angle where all their output is concentrated (typically 20 degrees). Be very careful looking directly into the newer generations lf LEDs. I don't know that you could do permanent damage, but they really are blindingly bright. Yeah could agree more. Most of the bulbs on here are wide angle as they're designed for automotive use but be careful. I got some super bright LED's and they left spots before my eyes for a while when they accidently flashed during installation. If you want to test if they're working point them away towards something black. It'll be enough to see the reflection, but not enough to hurt your eyes I now have some on order from America that are 10 times brighter than these super bright LED's They are the brightest LED's available in the world! Just using them in a little project of mine. I'll post more details once it's been done It was acceptable in the 80's

Dec 6th, 2003, 07:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 05:26 PM Posts: 6,112 Offline	We've got some at work that come mounted on a heatsink...! They are BRIGHT..!!!

Dec 6th, 2003, 11:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav We've got some at work that come mounted on a heatsink...! They are BRIGHT..!!! Yeah I've seen those ones. Bit old now though I saw them on an LED museum site (I kid you not!) The ones I'm getting don't require heat sinks and they don't really look like conventional LED's. I'll post pics when they eventually arrive! It was acceptable in the 80's

Dec 8th, 2003, 09:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
Minty Man in the know! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Coventry/Warwick Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 4,005 Offline	mine are twin led side lights. bright enuff for what i need. my mate got quad leds for his 306 gti6 and blew one within a week. E-Mail Me \| Minty - Reaches parts other people can't.

Dec 8th, 2003, 10:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 05:26 PM Posts: 6,112 Offline	Here's the link for the really, really bright ones we have at work. They are used in some automotive applications, but not all LED bulbs are created equal...

Dec 12th, 2003, 01:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
johnlondonw3 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 691 Offline	I'm lost now,..............I want to change the bulbs in my ,MCS its 4 weeks old,side lights for ones which are the same colour and intesity as the main beams( Xenons)......which should I buy,where do I get them from ? Thanks

Dec 14th, 2003, 10:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
bards Clio 197 R27 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: West Yorkshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 2,283 Offline	I have just taken a pic of the led sidelights in my car, they are PIAA. Which I recommend as I had another make at first and they kept blowing, I swapped to PIAA and had no trouble. http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...id=26674&stc=1 Attached Thumbnails flickr :: You Tube

Dec 15th, 2003, 09:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 10:26 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav Here's the link for the really, really bright ones we have at work. They are used in some automotive applications, but not all LED bulbs are created equal... GadgetGav they are the same ones I'm on about. Mine haven't got a heatsink though??? It was acceptable in the 80's

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