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sturdy · Dec 12th, 2003, 07:40 PM

Hi, I'm new to the site and I was hoping to get some opinions/advice from some fellow mini owners. I bought my Mini too late in the production phase to add anything on to it, so I had to add some things at the dealer. I feel confident with the price on the driving lamps and bonnet stripes, but I want to add front fog lights. One dealer says it can't be done through Mini, one says she'll do it for $850 and another said he'll do front and rear for $1150. It seems very expensive and I wanted to get some prices from some real life experts. Thanks in advance for the help.

NEMINI · Dec 12th, 2003, 07:45 PM

front and rear light retrofit kit can be bought for around $199, labor should not be anywhere near those prices you were quoted, thats insane. Ask your dealer to itemize the pricing and see how the heck they are coming up with such prices.

cooper.PT · Dec 12th, 2003, 07:55 PM

I have to agree with G, those prices can't be right!

Anyway, i didn't know it was possible for any car to come without rear fog lights

NEMINI · Dec 12th, 2003, 07:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cooper.PT

I have to agree with G, those prices can't be right!

Anyway, i didn't know it was possible for any car to come without rear fog lights

All MINI's have the lights and bulbs but not the switch and programming

cooper.PT · Dec 12th, 2003, 08:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03

All MINI's have the lights and bulbs but not the switch and programming

I think in Portugal it's ilegal not to have rear fog lights, I've never seen a car without them..

NEMINI · Dec 12th, 2003, 08:09 PM

In the US we weren't allowed the option by MINI until just recently, I had mine retro-fitted though.

sturdy · Dec 12th, 2003, 09:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03

In the US we weren't allowed the option by MINI until just recently, I had mine retro-fitted though.

How much was it to have yours retro-fitted???

NEMINI · Dec 12th, 2003, 09:14 PM

rear fogs only was $75 for the part and $50 for programming, I installed it myself.

sturdy · Dec 12th, 2003, 09:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03

rear fogs only was $75 for the part and $50 for programming, I installed it myself.

I read the instructions in the FAQ section and it seems difficult. Is it has hard as it seems at first? How long did it take you?

KenL · Dec 12th, 2003, 09:17 PM

That's really expensive and for the amount so use them it probably isn't worth it. It's illegal in the UK to use front or rear fogs unless visibility is severely reduced. I live in an area that often gets fog but in 18 months I don't think I ever used the rears as they are so blinding.

NEMINI · Dec 12th, 2003, 09:17 PM

20 minutes, for rear fogs all it is is changing out the toggle switch bank, which requires removing the downtubes, which requires loosening up the cup holder section, its actually a very easy job.

exposed · Dec 12th, 2003, 09:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sturdy

Hi, I'm new to the site and I was hoping to get some opinions/advice from some fellow mini owners. I bought my Mini too late in the production phase to add anything on to it, so I had to add some things at the dealer. I feel confident with the price on the driving lamps and bonnet stripes, but I want to add front fog lights. One dealer says it can't be done through Mini, one says she'll do it for $850 and another said he'll do front and rear for $1150. It seems very expensive and I wanted to get some prices from some real life experts. Thanks in advance for the help.

I just checked on cost for this. The fog lights, front and rear were $159-$199 depending on dealer. Install was the problem. The only quote I received was from the Portland, OR dealer and they had to call Mini and get a time frame as they had not done any. They said 3.5 hours and there rate was $90.00 per hour. Hope this helps

NEMINI · Dec 12th, 2003, 09:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by exposed

I just checked on cost for this. The fog lights, front and rear were $159-$199 depending on dealer. Install was the problem. The only quote I received was from the Portland, OR dealer and they had to call Mini and get a time frame as they had not done any. They said 3.5 hours and there rate was $90.00 per hour. Hope this helps

even at 4 hours labor that works out to be $360 + 200 for parts is $560 for both installed which is a far cry from the original quotes sturdy got

cooper.PT · Dec 12th, 2003, 10:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by exposed

I just checked on cost for this. The fog lights, front and rear were $159-$199 depending on dealer. Install was the problem. The only quote I received was from the Portland, OR dealer and they had to call Mini and get a time frame as they had not done any. They said 3.5 hours and there rate was $90.00 per hour. Hope this helps

Sheesh and I thought Portugal's dealers were expensive! Here they only charge us for €37+VAT(19%) per hour!

SpacemanSpiff · Dec 14th, 2003, 07:33 AM

Point of clarification, please, GMini03. Am I correct in guessing that you installed the part yourself and had your dealer do the programming, or is it possible to do the programming yourself as well? I want to add both front and rear fogs to my '04 Cooper S.

Musta had a brain fart when I ordered the thing without fogs.

NEMINI · Dec 14th, 2003, 12:36 PM

dealer must do the programming, you can, depending on tools available and mechanical skill, do everything else yourself and save a bunch of labor costs. (most, not all tho, dealer's charge 1/2 hour labor for programming, so guesstimate around ~$50)

arch-mini · Apr 11th, 2005, 06:01 PM

I have a '02 MCS and was told by my dealer that there was no retro kit available, i.e. they cannot add the front fog lights. If anybody has had this done, give me a shout!

Dec 12th, 2003, 07:40 PM	#1
sturdy MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kansas City Local Time: 05:28 PM Posts: 3 Offline	Front Fog Lights Hi, I'm new to the site and I was hoping to get some opinions/advice from some fellow mini owners. I bought my Mini too late in the production phase to add anything on to it, so I had to add some things at the dealer. I feel confident with the price on the driving lamps and bonnet stripes, but I want to add front fog lights. One dealer says it can't be done through Mini, one says she'll do it for $850 and another said he'll do front and rear for $1150. It seems very expensive and I wanted to get some prices from some real life experts. Thanks in advance for the help.

Dec 12th, 2003, 07:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	front and rear light retrofit kit can be bought for around $199, labor should not be anywhere near those prices you were quoted, thats insane. Ask your dealer to itemize the pricing and see how the heck they are coming up with such prices. NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Dec 12th, 2003, 07:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cooper.PT I have to agree with G, those prices can't be right! Anyway, i didn't know it was possible for any car to come without rear fog lights All MINI's have the lights and bulbs but not the switch and programming NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Dec 12th, 2003, 08:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	In the US we weren't allowed the option by MINI until just recently, I had mine retro-fitted though. NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Dec 12th, 2003, 09:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
sturdy MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kansas City Local Time: 05:28 PM Posts: 3 Offline	question Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03 In the US we weren't allowed the option by MINI until just recently, I had mine retro-fitted though. How much was it to have yours retro-fitted???

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Dec 12th, 2003, 07:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
cooper.PT MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lisbon Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 190 Offline	I have to agree with G, those prices can't be right! Anyway, i didn't know it was possible for any car to come without rear fog lights

Dec 12th, 2003, 08:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
cooper.PT MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lisbon Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 190 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03 All MINI's have the lights and bulbs but not the switch and programming I think in Portugal it's ilegal not to have rear fog lights, I've never seen a car without them..

Dec 12th, 2003, 09:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	rear fogs only was $75 for the part and $50 for programming, I installed it myself. NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Dec 12th, 2003, 09:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
sturdy MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kansas City Local Time: 05:28 PM Posts: 3 Offline	question Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03 rear fogs only was $75 for the part and $50 for programming, I installed it myself. I read the instructions in the FAQ section and it seems difficult. Is it has hard as it seems at first? How long did it take you?

Dec 12th, 2003, 09:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 11:28 PM Posts: 5,102 Offline	That's really expensive and for the amount so use them it probably isn't worth it. It's illegal in the UK to use front or rear fogs unless visibility is severely reduced. I live in an area that often gets fog but in 18 months I don't think I ever used the rears as they are so blinding. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Dec 12th, 2003, 09:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	20 minutes, for rear fogs all it is is changing out the toggle switch bank, which requires removing the downtubes, which requires loosening up the cup holder section, its actually a very easy job. NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Dec 12th, 2003, 09:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
exposed MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wenatchee Washington Local Time: 03:28 PM Posts: 13 Offline	Fog lights Quote: Originally Posted by sturdy Hi, I'm new to the site and I was hoping to get some opinions/advice from some fellow mini owners. I bought my Mini too late in the production phase to add anything on to it, so I had to add some things at the dealer. I feel confident with the price on the driving lamps and bonnet stripes, but I want to add front fog lights. One dealer says it can't be done through Mini, one says she'll do it for $850 and another said he'll do front and rear for $1150. It seems very expensive and I wanted to get some prices from some real life experts. Thanks in advance for the help. I just checked on cost for this. The fog lights, front and rear were $159-$199 depending on dealer. Install was the problem. The only quote I received was from the Portland, OR dealer and they had to call Mini and get a time frame as they had not done any. They said 3.5 hours and there rate was $90.00 per hour. Hope this helps

Dec 12th, 2003, 09:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by exposed I just checked on cost for this. The fog lights, front and rear were $159-$199 depending on dealer. Install was the problem. The only quote I received was from the Portland, OR dealer and they had to call Mini and get a time frame as they had not done any. They said 3.5 hours and there rate was $90.00 per hour. Hope this helps even at 4 hours labor that works out to be $360 + 200 for parts is $560 for both installed which is a far cry from the original quotes sturdy got NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Dec 12th, 2003, 10:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
cooper.PT MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lisbon Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 190 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by exposed I just checked on cost for this. The fog lights, front and rear were $159-$199 depending on dealer. Install was the problem. The only quote I received was from the Portland, OR dealer and they had to call Mini and get a time frame as they had not done any. They said 3.5 hours and there rate was $90.00 per hour. Hope this helps Sheesh and I thought Portugal's dealers were expensive! Here they only charge us for €37+VAT(19%) per hour!

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Dec 14th, 2003, 07:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
SpacemanSpiff MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 12 Offline	Point of clarification, please, GMini03. Am I correct in guessing that you installed the part yourself and had your dealer do the programming, or is it possible to do the programming yourself as well? I want to add both front and rear fogs to my '04 Cooper S. Musta had a brain fart when I ordered the thing without fogs. --jim DS/W Cooper S "She's my little juiced Coop you don't know what I got. Just a little juiced Coop with a boosted mill but she'll walk an SUV like it's standin' still"

Dec 14th, 2003, 12:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	dealer must do the programming, you can, depending on tools available and mechanical skill, do everything else yourself and save a bunch of labor costs. (most, not all tho, dealer's charge 1/2 hour labor for programming, so guesstimate around ~$50) NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Apr 11th, 2005, 06:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
arch-mini MiniLove Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Local Time: 07:28 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Front Fog Lights a No Go I have a '02 MCS and was told by my dealer that there was no retro kit available, i.e. they cannot add the front fog lights. If anybody has had this done, give me a shout!

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