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TonyB · Dec 31st, 2003, 11:36 PM

I haven't done many mods that are non-performance related, and I suppose this one could be argued to be no different due to the increased air flow it makes for. Aesthetically, I like it though, and that has me posting here...

The install time is approximately 1 hour, and I can see it being less with some previous experience in that area.

obehave · Jan 1st, 2004, 12:45 AM

So, how much weight did it save you?

Actually it's the first one I've seen I like. How about some particulars?
Same thing available for the rear valance?

TonyB · Jan 1st, 2004, 01:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

So, how much weight did it save you?

Actually it's the first one I've seen I like. How about some particulars?
Same thing available for the rear valance?

Hey obe, yes, it caught my eye also, and to be honest, I should have gained several ounces with this mod. I suppose the few ounces lost on the bored TB might have been gained back

Again, the stock one, while not looking as nice, also has quite a few holes plugged; the airflow should be improved over the stock unit, and I find that worthwhile...

I got mine from Peter at M7. He will be offering them for the grille above, and eventually the back as well

Happy New Year to you and your family!!!

obehave · Jan 1st, 2004, 01:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by TonyB

Hey obe, yes, it caught my eye also, and to be honest, I should have gained several ounces with this mod. I suppose the few ounces lost on the bored TB might have been gained back

Again, the stock one, while not looking as nice, also has quite a few holes plugged; the airflow should be improved over the stock unit, and I find that worthwhile...

I got mine from Peter at M7. He will be offering them for the grille above, and eventually the back as well

Happy New Year to you and your family!!!

Their site doesn't work.
How much if you don't mind. Or PM me.
Thanks and have a Happy and to the future Mrs as well.

Paul · Jan 1st, 2004, 10:19 AM

I do wonder slightly about those, as someone else mentioned before. While air is let into more of the front of the car, it could be less effective at cooling as it's not all directed where MINI wanted it to go, where it's needed most.

TonyB · Jan 1st, 2004, 06:44 PM

obe has been PM'd...

Paul, the thought crossed my mind also. But, after inspecting the factory plastic grille, I'm convinced that is not the case. Holes are plugged on the stocker in a way that seemingly reflects that MINI had aesthetic concerns - ie, not seeing some plumbing through the grille area...

I think it looks sort of trick, like those watch faces where you can see what's behind the scenes

Paul · Jan 1st, 2004, 06:51 PM

Does look more "serious" to me than the factory grille too.

BruceK · Jan 1st, 2004, 11:59 PM

With this grille you'd need to completely remove it in order to attach the front tow hook. Not a daily concern I know, but an additional hassle at the worst possible time?

CurtP · Jan 2nd, 2004, 12:33 AM

Is that expanded or perforated aluminum?

TonyB · Jan 2nd, 2004, 11:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BruceK

With this grille you'd need to completely remove it in order to attach the front tow hook. Not a daily concern I know, but an additional hassle at the worst possible time?

Bruce, that is a good point. If I was in such a bind, I'd just snip a piece, and fold it back to get the tow hook inserted. Then, when all is fine, just bend the piece back into position. For those who don't know, the stock unit has a provision (a plug) for this unfortunate scenario...

Curt, I really don't know the answer to your question. Peter would certainly know, if that is something you find important....

obehave · Jan 3rd, 2004, 12:55 AM

Perforated would be much stronger.
You could probably tell when you installed it. The expanded stuff tends to collapse back to it's original size. The perforated you can lean against a wall and it maintains it's shape fairly well.

TonyB · Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

Perforated would be much stronger.
You could probably tell when you installed it. The expanded stuff tends to collapse back to it's original size. The perforated you can lean against a wall and it maintains it's shape fairly well.

Well, then it is perforated! Thanks obe. It is very rigid indeed. Surprisingly so actually...

Dec 31st, 2003, 11:36 PM	#1
TonyB Don MINIo Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Bay Area, CA Local Time: 07:08 PM Posts: 1,744 Offline	Ultimate Grille Installed I haven't done many mods that are non-performance related, and I suppose this one could be argued to be no different due to the increased air flow it makes for. Aesthetically, I like it though, and that has me posting here... The install time is approximately 1 hour, and I can see it being less with some previous experience in that area. Attached Thumbnails '03 (9.6.02) MCS IB/W Lapis Blue Leather Mission = 10:1 (Weight:HP)

Jan 1st, 2004, 01:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
TonyB Don MINIo Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Bay Area, CA Local Time: 07:08 PM Posts: 1,744 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave So, how much weight did it save you? Actually it's the first one I've seen I like. How about some particulars? Same thing available for the rear valance? Hey obe, yes, it caught my eye also, and to be honest, I should have gained several ounces with this mod. I suppose the few ounces lost on the bored TB might have been gained back Again, the stock one, while not looking as nice, also has quite a few holes plugged; the airflow should be improved over the stock unit, and I find that worthwhile... I got mine from Peter at M7. He will be offering them for the grille above, and eventually the back as well Happy New Year to you and your family!!! '03 (9.6.02) MCS IB/W Lapis Blue Leather Mission = 10:1 (Weight:HP)

Jan 1st, 2004, 06:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
TonyB Don MINIo Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Bay Area, CA Local Time: 07:08 PM Posts: 1,744 Offline	obe has been PM'd... Paul, the thought crossed my mind also. But, after inspecting the factory plastic grille, I'm convinced that is not the case. Holes are plugged on the stocker in a way that seemingly reflects that MINI had aesthetic concerns - ie, not seeing some plumbing through the grille area... I think it looks sort of trick, like those watch faces where you can see what's behind the scenes '03 (9.6.02) MCS IB/W Lapis Blue Leather Mission = 10:1 (Weight:HP)

Jan 1st, 2004, 11:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 09:08 PM Posts: 3,759 Offline	With this grille you'd need to completely remove it in order to attach the front tow hook. Not a daily concern I know, but an additional hassle at the worst possible time? + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 2nd, 2004, 11:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
TonyB Don MINIo Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Bay Area, CA Local Time: 07:08 PM Posts: 1,744 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by BruceK With this grille you'd need to completely remove it in order to attach the front tow hook. Not a daily concern I know, but an additional hassle at the worst possible time? Bruce, that is a good point. If I was in such a bind, I'd just snip a piece, and fold it back to get the tow hook inserted. Then, when all is fine, just bend the piece back into position. For those who don't know, the stock unit has a provision (a plug) for this unfortunate scenario... Curt, I really don't know the answer to your question. Peter would certainly know, if that is something you find important.... '03 (9.6.02) MCS IB/W Lapis Blue Leather Mission = 10:1 (Weight:HP)

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Jan 1st, 2004, 12:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 11:08 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	So, how much weight did it save you? Actually it's the first one I've seen I like. How about some particulars? Same thing available for the rear valance?

Jan 1st, 2004, 01:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 11:08 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TonyB Hey obe, yes, it caught my eye also, and to be honest, I should have gained several ounces with this mod. I suppose the few ounces lost on the bored TB might have been gained back Again, the stock one, while not looking as nice, also has quite a few holes plugged; the airflow should be improved over the stock unit, and I find that worthwhile... I got mine from Peter at M7. He will be offering them for the grille above, and eventually the back as well Happy New Year to you and your family!!! Their site doesn't work. How much if you don't mind. Or PM me. Thanks and have a Happy and to the future Mrs as well.

Jan 1st, 2004, 10:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 04:08 AM Posts: 40,875 Offline	I do wonder slightly about those, as someone else mentioned before. While air is let into more of the front of the car, it could be less effective at cooling as it's not all directed where MINI wanted it to go, where it's needed most.

Jan 1st, 2004, 06:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 04:08 AM Posts: 40,875 Offline	Does look more "serious" to me than the factory grille too.

Jan 2nd, 2004, 12:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
CurtP MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 11:08 PM Posts: 994 Offline	Is that expanded or perforated aluminum?

Jan 3rd, 2004, 12:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 11:08 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Perforated would be much stronger. You could probably tell when you installed it. The expanded stuff tends to collapse back to it's original size. The perforated you can lean against a wall and it maintains it's shape fairly well.

Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
TonyB Don MINIo Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Bay Area, CA Local Time: 07:08 PM Posts: 1,744 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave Perforated would be much stronger. You could probably tell when you installed it. The expanded stuff tends to collapse back to it's original size. The perforated you can lean against a wall and it maintains it's shape fairly well. Well, then it is perforated! Thanks obe. It is very rigid indeed. Surprisingly so actually... '03 (9.6.02) MCS IB/W Lapis Blue Leather Mission = 10:1 (Weight:HP)

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