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Todd in PA · Jan 18th, 2004, 12:57 AM

I see that rear fog lights are now an option on the MINIUSA website. It seems like the petition worked! Does anyone have any info so we can DIY? Sorry if this has been discussed before, I searched the archives and only found instructions to make the rear fog lights act as extra brake lights. TIA

Bugged · Jan 18th, 2004, 02:54 AM

You can install the toggle yourself ($75 list), all the wiring and connections are in place already. However, only the dealer can activate the lights. They have to update the computer so that it knows that the lights are present. No DIY way around this part.

obehave · Jan 18th, 2004, 03:08 AM

jlivingoods excellent instructions.

Simple job, took me maybe 30 minutes. I have an appointment to have mine turned on next Wed. Weasels won't tell me how much they'll charge though

You'll have to make sure you get the correct P/N.

ncdave · Jan 18th, 2004, 03:53 AM

Had mine done this week by the dealer and frankly, I wouldn't even bother installing the hardware yourself as the whole thing ran $75 for the parts and 1/2 hour of labor. Interesting fact is that they had a 2004 "S" in the showroom with the new three-spoke wheel and rear fog lights, which were a $100 option. Given that price from the factory on the new cars, the retrofit cost really is pretty fair.

I understand that the dealers are trying to charge 1 1/2 hours for labor, but once I mentioned the retrofit bulletin from MINIUSA (which noted a .5 labor time), they honoured it. You can print it out from a different thread on MINI2. I looked for it to link but couldn't find it - sorry!

As an aside, the new steering wheel looks much better in person.

AprilWhine · Jan 18th, 2004, 11:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ncdave

Had mine done this week by the dealer and frankly, I wouldn't even bother installing the hardware yourself as the whole thing ran $75 for the parts and 1/2 hour of labor. Interesting fact is that they had a 2004 "S" in the showroom with the new three-spoke wheel and rear fog lights, which were a $100 option. Given that price from the factory on the new cars, the retrofit cost really is pretty fair.

I understand that the dealers are trying to charge 1 1/2 hours for labor, but once I mentioned the retrofit bulletin from MINIUSA (which noted a .5 labor time), they honoured it. You can print it out from a different thread on MINI2. I looked for it to link but couldn't find it - sorry!

As an aside, the new steering wheel looks much better in person.

I take it you had yours installed at Flow? After the fiasco I had with both Checkered Flag and the Richmond dealer, I might drive down to NC for my rear fogs.

Todd in PA · Jan 18th, 2004, 01:28 PM

I'll call the dealer on Monday and see if they can fit this in soon.

ncdave · Jan 18th, 2004, 01:34 PM

Hi April - Yup - went to Flow. Ask for Dan Zipkin to do the job as he's a seriously knowledgable and nice guy.

Todd in PA · Jan 18th, 2004, 01:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ncdave

Hi April - Yup - went to Flow. Ask for Dan Zipkin to do the job as he's a seriously knowledgable and nice guy.

ncdave · Jan 18th, 2004, 03:54 PM

Hi Todd - check the post just before yours.

CurtP · Jan 18th, 2004, 06:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

I have an appointment to have mine turned on next Wed. Weasels won't tell me how much they'll charge though

Please let me know how much they charge you. I already have the full switch bank installed and just need them activated. I've been too busy lately to schedule an appointment to have it done, but would like to soon.

jmoser · Jan 19th, 2004, 06:46 AM

My dealer charged $67.50 to activate--a half hour labor charge (Bay Area prices are high!)....I already had it installed, so I don't know what they would have charged to install it....

obehave · Jan 19th, 2004, 04:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CurtP

Please let me know how much they charge you. I already have the full switch bank installed and just need them activated. I've been too busy lately to schedule an appointment to have it done, but would like to soon.

Will do.
This'll be my second set of wiper blades as well. All 3 this time. They don't last worth doo doo.

I'm hoping they're free again.

Bugged · Jan 19th, 2004, 04:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

Will do.
This'll be my second set of wiper blades as well. All 3 this time. They don't last worth doo doo.

I'm hoping they're free again.

Wiper blades are free for the life of your warranty, I get mine changed whenever I'm near the dealer whether they need it or not!

Your labor costs sound about right. MINI of Sterling charged $140 plus tax for the switch and installation. $75 for the switch plus $65 for the labor...

jmoser · Jan 19th, 2004, 06:39 PM

[Your labor costs sound about right. MINI of Sterling charged $140 plus tax for the switch and installation. $75 for the switch plus $65 for the labor...[/quote]
Bugged, I'm fond of MINI of Sterling--thats where my MINI was originally purchased,before travelling to California via Washington DC...she's bicoastal!

ncdave · Jan 20th, 2004, 04:12 PM

Hi Chip - The total labour charge (to install the toggle panel and activate the lights) was $47.50 representing .5 hour. As I noted earlier, the service writer had it down for 1.5 hours, but I mentioned the "Mini Aftersales Parts Bulletin" reflecting the .5 labor time which was honored with no problem. The whole thing took just under that time so it seems about right.

obehave · Jan 22nd, 2004, 05:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CurtP

Please let me know how much they charge you. I already have the full switch bank installed and just need them activated. I've been too busy lately to schedule an appointment to have it done, but would like to soon.

Curt
Just got back from having mine done this morning. Had v36 installed and new wiper blades put on too.

They charged me $46. Not bad. Took a while to explain what I wanted but they did get it done. Cheaper than I thought.

NEMINI · Jan 22nd, 2004, 05:48 PM

did they do it without changing any previous memory settings? I learned to make sure before leaving the dealership, the hard way

obehave · Jan 22nd, 2004, 05:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03

did they do it without changing any previous memory settings? I learned to make sure before leaving the dealership, the hard way

Yea I mentioned that on another thread.

All my options were gone. I asked them to make sure they were reprogrammed before they started the work but that didn't happen.
Told them they missed the comfort opening and auto door lock. Got the car back and they'd forgotten the auto door lock

Fogs worked nicely though

NEMINI · Jan 22nd, 2004, 06:02 PM

sounds just like the disaster I went through, my auto-unlock is still missing

Bugged · Jan 22nd, 2004, 06:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03

sounds just like the disaster I went through, my auto-unlock is still missing

I have to say I'm impressed. I expected my dealer to toast the earlier programming when they did the install, but they reset everything the way I had it...

Jan 18th, 2004, 12:57 AM	#1
Todd in PA MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Emmaus PA Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 17 Offline	Rear Fog Light Retrofit? I see that rear fog lights are now an option on the MINIUSA website. It seems like the petition worked! Does anyone have any info so we can DIY? Sorry if this has been discussed before, I searched the archives and only found instructions to make the rear fog lights act as extra brake lights. TIA

Jan 18th, 2004, 11:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gypsy Local Time: 05:23 PM Posts: 16,078 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ncdave Had mine done this week by the dealer and frankly, I wouldn't even bother installing the hardware yourself as the whole thing ran $75 for the parts and 1/2 hour of labor. Interesting fact is that they had a 2004 "S" in the showroom with the new three-spoke wheel and rear fog lights, which were a $100 option. Given that price from the factory on the new cars, the retrofit cost really is pretty fair. I understand that the dealers are trying to charge 1 1/2 hours for labor, but once I mentioned the retrofit bulletin from MINIUSA (which noted a .5 labor time), they honoured it. You can print it out from a different thread on MINI2. I looked for it to link but couldn't find it - sorry! As an aside, the new steering wheel looks much better in person. I take it you had yours installed at Flow? After the fiasco I had with both Checkered Flag and the Richmond dealer, I might drive down to NC for my rear fogs. Global Moderator

Jan 18th, 2004, 01:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Todd in PA MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Emmaus PA Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 17 Offline	Thanks All I'll call the dealer on Monday and see if they can fit this in soon.

Jan 18th, 2004, 01:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Todd in PA MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Emmaus PA Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 17 Offline	Uh April? Maybe you posted to the wrong thread! Quote: Originally Posted by ncdave Hi April - Yup - went to Flow. Ask for Dan Zipkin to do the job as he's a seriously knowledgable and nice guy.

Jan 19th, 2004, 06:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
jmoser MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Local Time: 04:23 PM Posts: 92 Offline	My dealer charged $67.50 to activate--a half hour labor charge (Bay Area prices are high!)....I already had it installed, so I don't know what they would have charged to install it.... MCS DS/W Ride a horse, Drive a truck, Fly a Coop

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Jan 18th, 2004, 02:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bugged Just along for the ride Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Centreville VA Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 702 Offline	You can install the toggle yourself ($75 list), all the wiring and connections are in place already. However, only the dealer can activate the lights. They have to update the computer so that it knows that the lights are present. No DIY way around this part.

Jan 18th, 2004, 03:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 9,315 Offline	jlivingoods excellent instructions. Simple job, took me maybe 30 minutes. I have an appointment to have mine turned on next Wed. Weasels won't tell me how much they'll charge though You'll have to make sure you get the correct P/N.

Jan 18th, 2004, 03:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
ncdave MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 646 Offline	Had mine done this week by the dealer and frankly, I wouldn't even bother installing the hardware yourself as the whole thing ran $75 for the parts and 1/2 hour of labor. Interesting fact is that they had a 2004 "S" in the showroom with the new three-spoke wheel and rear fog lights, which were a $100 option. Given that price from the factory on the new cars, the retrofit cost really is pretty fair. I understand that the dealers are trying to charge 1 1/2 hours for labor, but once I mentioned the retrofit bulletin from MINIUSA (which noted a .5 labor time), they honoured it. You can print it out from a different thread on MINI2. I looked for it to link but couldn't find it - sorry! As an aside, the new steering wheel looks much better in person.

Jan 18th, 2004, 01:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
ncdave MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 646 Offline	Hi April - Yup - went to Flow. Ask for Dan Zipkin to do the job as he's a seriously knowledgable and nice guy.

Jan 18th, 2004, 03:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
ncdave MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 646 Offline	Hi Todd - check the post just before yours.

Jan 18th, 2004, 06:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
CurtP MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 951 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave I have an appointment to have mine turned on next Wed. Weasels won't tell me how much they'll charge though Please let me know how much they charge you. I already have the full switch bank installed and just need them activated. I've been too busy lately to schedule an appointment to have it done, but would like to soon.

Jan 19th, 2004, 04:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 9,315 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CurtP Please let me know how much they charge you. I already have the full switch bank installed and just need them activated. I've been too busy lately to schedule an appointment to have it done, but would like to soon. Will do. This'll be my second set of wiper blades as well. All 3 this time. They don't last worth doo doo. I'm hoping they're free again.

Jan 19th, 2004, 04:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bugged Just along for the ride Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Centreville VA Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 702 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave Will do. This'll be my second set of wiper blades as well. All 3 this time. They don't last worth doo doo. I'm hoping they're free again. Wiper blades are free for the life of your warranty, I get mine changed whenever I'm near the dealer whether they need it or not! Your labor costs sound about right. MINI of Sterling charged $140 plus tax for the switch and installation. $75 for the switch plus $65 for the labor...

Jan 19th, 2004, 06:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
jmoser MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Local Time: 04:23 PM Posts: 92 Offline	[Your labor costs sound about right. MINI of Sterling charged $140 plus tax for the switch and installation. $75 for the switch plus $65 for the labor...[/quote] Bugged, I'm fond of MINI of Sterling--thats where my MINI was originally purchased,before travelling to California via Washington DC...she's bicoastal! MCS DS/W Ride a horse, Drive a truck, Fly a Coop

Jan 20th, 2004, 04:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
ncdave MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 646 Offline	Hi Chip - The total labour charge (to install the toggle panel and activate the lights) was $47.50 representing .5 hour. As I noted earlier, the service writer had it down for 1.5 hours, but I mentioned the "Mini Aftersales Parts Bulletin" reflecting the .5 labor time which was honored with no problem. The whole thing took just under that time so it seems about right.

Jan 22nd, 2004, 05:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 9,315 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CurtP Please let me know how much they charge you. I already have the full switch bank installed and just need them activated. I've been too busy lately to schedule an appointment to have it done, but would like to soon. Curt Just got back from having mine done this morning. Had v36 installed and new wiper blades put on too. They charged me $46. Not bad. Took a while to explain what I wanted but they did get it done. Cheaper than I thought.

Jan 22nd, 2004, 05:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	did they do it without changing any previous memory settings? I learned to make sure before leaving the dealership, the hard way NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Jan 22nd, 2004, 05:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 9,315 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03 did they do it without changing any previous memory settings? I learned to make sure before leaving the dealership, the hard way Yea I mentioned that on another thread. All my options were gone. I asked them to make sure they were reprogrammed before they started the work but that didn't happen. Told them they missed the comfort opening and auto door lock. Got the car back and they'd forgotten the auto door lock Fogs worked nicely though

Jan 22nd, 2004, 06:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 06:23 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	sounds just like the disaster I went through, my auto-unlock is still missing NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Jan 22nd, 2004, 06:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bugged Just along for the ride Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Centreville VA Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 702 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03 sounds just like the disaster I went through, my auto-unlock is still missing I have to say I'm impressed. I expected my dealer to toast the earlier programming when they did the install, but they reset everything the way I had it...

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