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J3T · May 25th, 2004, 08:42 AM

Picked up my new MC on saturday and was told as we were walking to the car (not happy they left it until the last minute) that they are unable to fit the white rear lights anymore?? I'd specced the full white lights with the red reflectors in the bumper but they've fitted the rear clusters with the red lights but white indicators!!

Now I think they actually look ok but they aren't what I ordered! I just wanted to check what the consensus of opinion was - has anyone else specced the full white lights and been given these??

Rumour has it that the full white lights weren't totally legal because they actually had white reflectors on the back of the car which worse than no red reflectors??

I would appreciate any views on this

Thanks

Jonathan

StevePSB · May 25th, 2004, 10:45 AM

The white lights were withdrawn from sale for a few months whilst their legality was looked into.
About 2 or 3 months ago they were offered for sale again - the kit now includes the reflectors as standard in the UK.

Anyway, the long and short of it is that they are fully available again.

J3T · May 25th, 2004, 10:53 AM

Thanks for confirming that! That was what I'd heard when I ordered the car back in March but the dealer thought differently now!

The question now is do I like the ones they've given me (need tp check they haven't overcharged me as well actually!) or do I push for the white lights with the bumper reflectors (these are the only bits I don't like but probably put up with if I could have the white lights!)

Thanks for your help Steve.

Jonathan

BuzzBomb · May 25th, 2004, 12:21 PM

My local dealer won't fit white rear lights on MINIs as they told me Herts Police made an official complaint to MINI forcing them to withdraw them...

StevePSB · May 25th, 2004, 01:54 PM

You're right BuzzBomb, they were withdrawn (for several months) because of a police complaint. They have been put back up for sale in the UK with the reflectors as an integral part of the purchase, whereas before the reflectors were seperate.

Basically, it means MINI can say 'we supplied the customer the lights and reflectors' if the car is stopped by the police with no reflectors fitted.

They're £195.00 including the VAT.

J3T · May 25th, 2004, 02:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by StevePSB

They're £195.00 including the VAT.

Going slightly off topic but would there be any difference in price between buying + fitting for the white lights and the reflectors versus the red light with the white indicator?? Without the fitting of the reflectors, the red lights would be cheaper??

StevePSB · May 25th, 2004, 10:35 PM

Without being at work to check it, I think the red/white lamps are a little cheaper than the white kit anyway. The fitting of the red/white lamps would be a lot more straight forward than the white plus reflectors.

B4d4Bing · May 27th, 2004, 10:52 PM

i have a set of white rear lights and want to swap for the red and white ones if you are interested?

J3T · May 28th, 2004, 09:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by B4d4Bing

i have a set of white rear lights and want to swap for the red and white ones if you are interested?

Oh now you've got me thinking!

This would mean I could have the white lights without those stupid reflectors (I know they would be illegal but don't care!) but how would we sort this is out if I agreed?? You're in Glasgow and I'm in Oxford??

B4d4Bing · May 28th, 2004, 05:41 PM

easy i will trust you cos i am nice....i could send them to you as i have the originals to put on the car then when you get them you can see if they are ok and post me yours! oh how foolish and trust worthy i am but if i post them to you i have your address and i have a mate who lives in oxford!

pm if you fancy a change....they are perfect condition not a single problem or blemish.

ALD0 · May 28th, 2004, 08:55 PM

I was told today that they have again discontinued the White lights again?

One of mine is corroded on the inside and I want a replacement under warranty.

StevePSB · May 28th, 2004, 10:37 PM

You've heard wrong there.

Possibly someone getting the fact they won't work with the 2005 spec onward cars mixed up.

ALD0 · May 28th, 2004, 10:42 PM

Mmmmmm

Well will see how it goes. Hoping they can replace the light under Warranty.

ALD0 · Jun 2nd, 2004, 11:55 AM

OK-There seems to be some Confusion on this-Dealer has said that they cannot order lights as there is no Part number-Has someone got the Part number for the Rear lights?

Thanks in Advance.

StevePSB · Jun 2nd, 2004, 02:26 PM

Part number - MINI0142223 without aero kit.
Part number - MINI0142518 with aero kit.

The part numbers have to be ordered as an enhanced kit, which hopefully will make sense to your dealer.
This is official information taken from MINI internal bulletin MINI-04-ACC-0224.

May 25th, 2004, 08:42 AM	#1
J3T MINI2 Freak Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cotswolds Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 123 Offline	White Rear Lights Picked up my new MC on saturday and was told as we were walking to the car (not happy they left it until the last minute) that they are unable to fit the white rear lights anymore?? I'd specced the full white lights with the red reflectors in the bumper but they've fitted the rear clusters with the red lights but white indicators!! Now I think they actually look ok but they aren't what I ordered! I just wanted to check what the consensus of opinion was - has anyone else specced the full white lights and been given these?? Rumour has it that the full white lights weren't totally legal because they actually had white reflectors on the back of the car which worse than no red reflectors?? I would appreciate any views on this Thanks Jonathan Completely MINI/Mini Mad!!!

May 25th, 2004, 10:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
J3T MINI2 Freak Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cotswolds Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 123 Offline	Thanks for confirming that! That was what I'd heard when I ordered the car back in March but the dealer thought differently now! The question now is do I like the ones they've given me (need tp check they haven't overcharged me as well actually!) or do I push for the white lights with the bumper reflectors (these are the only bits I don't like but probably put up with if I could have the white lights!) Thanks for your help Steve. Jonathan Completely MINI/Mini Mad!!!

May 25th, 2004, 02:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
J3T MINI2 Freak Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cotswolds Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 123 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by StevePSB They're £195.00 including the VAT. Going slightly off topic but would there be any difference in price between buying + fitting for the white lights and the reflectors versus the red light with the white indicator?? Without the fitting of the reflectors, the red lights would be cheaper?? Completely MINI/Mini Mad!!!

May 27th, 2004, 10:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
B4d4Bing MINI2 Resident Doctor!! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Glasgow Local Time: 11:45 PM Posts: 405 Offline	i have a set of white rear lights and want to swap for the red and white ones if you are interested? MY MINI WAS A: 03 Chilli Red White Cooper S I'VE HAD IN BETWEEN: BMW Z4 2.5 V6, Golf GTi 2.0T DSG AND I'M BACK TO: 04 Dark Silver Mini cooper S

May 28th, 2004, 09:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
J3T MINI2 Freak Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cotswolds Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 123 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by B4d4Bing i have a set of white rear lights and want to swap for the red and white ones if you are interested? Oh now you've got me thinking! This would mean I could have the white lights without those stupid reflectors (I know they would be illegal but don't care!) but how would we sort this is out if I agreed?? You're in Glasgow and I'm in Oxford?? Completely MINI/Mini Mad!!!

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May 25th, 2004, 10:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
StevePSB MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bedworth / Doncaster Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 1,569 Offline	The white lights were withdrawn from sale for a few months whilst their legality was looked into. About 2 or 3 months ago they were offered for sale again - the kit now includes the reflectors as standard in the UK. Anyway, the long and short of it is that they are fully available again.

May 25th, 2004, 12:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
BuzzBomb Topless Buzzin' Join Date: May 2004 Location: East Yorkshire Local Time: 11:45 PM Posts: 68 Offline	My local dealer won't fit white rear lights on MINIs as they told me Herts Police made an official complaint to MINI forcing them to withdraw them...

May 25th, 2004, 01:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
StevePSB MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bedworth / Doncaster Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 1,569 Offline	You're right BuzzBomb, they were withdrawn (for several months) because of a police complaint. They have been put back up for sale in the UK with the reflectors as an integral part of the purchase, whereas before the reflectors were seperate. Basically, it means MINI can say 'we supplied the customer the lights and reflectors' if the car is stopped by the police with no reflectors fitted. They're £195.00 including the VAT.

May 25th, 2004, 10:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
StevePSB MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bedworth / Doncaster Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 1,569 Offline	Without being at work to check it, I think the red/white lamps are a little cheaper than the white kit anyway. The fitting of the red/white lamps would be a lot more straight forward than the white plus reflectors.

May 28th, 2004, 05:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
B4d4Bing MINI2 Resident Doctor!! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Glasgow Local Time: 11:45 PM Posts: 405 Offline	easy i will trust you cos i am nice....i could send them to you as i have the originals to put on the car then when you get them you can see if they are ok and post me yours! oh how foolish and trust worthy i am but if i post them to you i have your address and i have a mate who lives in oxford! pm if you fancy a change....they are perfect condition not a single problem or blemish. MY MINI WAS A: 03 Chilli Red White Cooper S I'VE HAD IN BETWEEN: BMW Z4 2.5 V6, Golf GTi 2.0T DSG AND I'M BACK TO: 04 Dark Silver Mini cooper S

May 28th, 2004, 08:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
ALD0 Hacked the IBUS Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 11:45 PM Posts: 9,202 Offline	I was told today that they have again discontinued the White lights again? One of mine is corroded on the inside and I want a replacement under warranty. http://www.becardsmart.org.uk/

May 28th, 2004, 10:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
StevePSB MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bedworth / Doncaster Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 1,569 Offline	You've heard wrong there. Possibly someone getting the fact they won't work with the 2005 spec onward cars mixed up.

May 28th, 2004, 10:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
ALD0 Hacked the IBUS Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 11:45 PM Posts: 9,202 Offline	Mmmmmm Well will see how it goes. Hoping they can replace the light under Warranty. http://www.becardsmart.org.uk/

Jun 2nd, 2004, 11:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
ALD0 Hacked the IBUS Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 11:45 PM Posts: 9,202 Offline	OK-There seems to be some Confusion on this-Dealer has said that they cannot order lights as there is no Part number-Has someone got the Part number for the Rear lights? Thanks in Advance. http://www.becardsmart.org.uk/

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Jun 2nd, 2004, 02:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
StevePSB MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bedworth / Doncaster Local Time: 12:45 AM Posts: 1,569 Offline	Part number - MINI0142223 without aero kit. Part number - MINI0142518 with aero kit. The part numbers have to be ordered as an enhanced kit, which hopefully will make sense to your dealer. This is official information taken from MINI internal bulletin MINI-04-ACC-0224.

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