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LeiChat · Jan 29th, 2005, 11:56 PM

Any pros or cons for going with either option ?

Aside from the matching colour mirrors is there any other reason to favour one or the other ?

alexpalex · Jan 30th, 2005, 02:17 AM

None really, apart from if you want to change your roof graphic a white roof as a base is easier to put another deign on...for instance a union jack...

Also white bonnet stripes will match your roof...

I do roof graphics here in OZ, and when the dealer gets a black roof in, bonnet stripes look a bit strange...

CYNMINI · Jan 30th, 2005, 03:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by LeiChat

Any pros or cons for going with either option ?

Aside from the matching colour mirrors is there any other reason to favour one or the other ?

body colored checks. It's different and looks really good.

LeiChat · Jan 30th, 2005, 09:56 AM

another question, the official bmw roof checks leave a gap round the edge, (see pic below)
why? I've seen checks that stretch right to the edge !?

Quote: Originally Posted by CYNMINI

body colored checks. It's different and looks really good.

that's something I hadn't thought about...
thought I'd give it a try on this image

bigshunt · Jan 30th, 2005, 03:29 PM

mini uk now do full roof chequer kits, vinyl goes to edge. you can see info on mini.co.uk

part numbers are 95.21.0.000.025 black chequer
95.21.0.000.026 white chequer

in latest mini accessory brochure

LeiChat · Jan 30th, 2005, 07:10 PM

I'm leaning towards this roof decal kit, in black to go on a white roof,
as I like their bonnet stripes. (Wouldn't have the rear or side though)
more info minisport.co.uk

bigshunt · Jan 30th, 2005, 08:16 PM

looks nice, one word of advice, Check with your dealer non BMW approved decals invalidate paint warranty, but for an individual look that might not bother u.

LeiChat · Jan 30th, 2005, 08:44 PM

How typical, no wonder the "sales contact" said to tell her what I was after.
I expect the "approved" vinyl uses a special (read expensive) adhesive.

alexpalex · Jan 30th, 2005, 11:21 PM

So...if the roof kit costs a bit more to install because of using the correct film. Does that mean that when it comes to changing it, the cost of the respray isn't included in the original sum.

Pay a bit more...it won't be as much as respraying your roof.

Mini G Man · Jan 31st, 2005, 12:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by LeiChat

another question, the official bmw roof checks leave a gap round the edge, (see pic below)
why? I've seen checks that stretch right to the edge !?

that's something I hadn't thought about...
thought I'd give it a try on this image

Not really a fan of checks, but this picture you posted looks marvellous. I think body coloured checks really suit the car!

LeiChat · Jan 31st, 2005, 09:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by alexpalex

So...if the roof kit costs a bit more to install because of using the correct film. Does that mean that when it comes to changing it, the cost of the respray isn't included in the original sum.

Pay a bit more...it won't be as much as respraying your roof.

I'm questioning the truth behind any difference in the vinyl / adhesive.
Paying for quality merchandise I have no problem with.
Paying for dealer tall tale markup I do.

Owned an Elise a few years back, set up a little site for owners to share info etc.
Found a company manufacturing billet aluminium window winders,
actually billed as for classic minis, but that's what was in the Elise.
They were selling for around £20 inc p&p.
Lotus struck a deal with them and the dealers were soon selling them for £80 + fitting !!!

bigshunt · Jan 31st, 2005, 01:38 PM

There is a vast difference it appears in fitting costs my advice is ring round other bmw dealers in your area. I have seen in other threads people have them fitted for less than £250.

I personally think there is something in the glues and materials. Its like any product there is cheaper stuff and more expensive stuff,

I probably got stitched up by the dealer, but at least they gave me nice explanation. Its been extensively tested, he admits others are probably good quality, but at least you have a definite guareente. sales tactic i know, but his final comment was how can we guareente something that hasn't been tested

alexpalex · Jan 31st, 2005, 02:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LeiChat

I'm questioning the truth behind any difference in the vinyl / adhesive.
Paying for quality merchandise I have no problem with.
Paying for dealer tall tale markup I do.

Owned an Elise a few years back, set up a little site for owners to share info etc.
Found a company manufacturing billet aluminium window winders,
actually billed as for classic minis, but that's what was in the Elise.
They were selling for around £20 inc p&p.
Lotus struck a deal with them and the dealers were soon selling them for £80 + fitting !!!

I make less profit from 3M than other materials, as it is about 20% more to buy.

If you don't believe me about the materials and ashesives, just visit the 3M website, and view the hundreds of product data sheets.

Dealers mark up prices, as the actual profit in vehicles is so small. All the money is in aftercare products, such as stripes, extended warranties, floor mats etc.

Ask any vinyl company why they use 3M, and the reply will alsways be quality and backup. Reas into the 3M MCS warranty, and then ask yourself why no other vinyl manufacturer in the world offers any kind of warranty with their films...

LeiChat · Jan 31st, 2005, 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by alexpalex

If you don't believe me about the materials and ashesives, just visit the 3M website, and view the hundreds of product data sheets.

I do believe you, it's the dealer sales banter I'm not happy with.

Quote: Originally Posted by alexpalex

Dealers mark up prices, as the actual profit in vehicles is so small.

That however I don't believe, there isn't as little profit as they'd want us to believe.
Why else would they be giving you 5 years service for £150 !?[/quote]

Jan 29th, 2005, 11:56 PM	#1
LeiChat MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 68 Offline	white roof black checks OR black roof white checks? Any pros or cons for going with either option ? Aside from the matching colour mirrors is there any other reason to favour one or the other ?

Jan 30th, 2005, 03:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
CYNMINI Canyon Mini Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Co. Cali. Local Time: 08:05 PM Posts: 310 Offline	Go with black roof and... Quote: Originally Posted by LeiChat Any pros or cons for going with either option ? Aside from the matching colour mirrors is there any other reason to favour one or the other ? body colored checks. It's different and looks really good.

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Jan 30th, 2005, 02:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
alexpalex MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth Local Time: 11:05 AM Posts: 300 Offline	None really, apart from if you want to change your roof graphic a white roof as a base is easier to put another deign on...for instance a union jack... Also white bonnet stripes will match your roof... I do roof graphics here in OZ, and when the dealer gets a black roof in, bonnet stripes look a bit strange...

Jan 30th, 2005, 09:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
LeiChat MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 68 Offline	another question, the official bmw roof checks leave a gap round the edge, (see pic below) why? I've seen checks that stretch right to the edge !? Quote: Originally Posted by CYNMINI body colored checks. It's different and looks really good. that's something I hadn't thought about... thought I'd give it a try on this image

Jan 30th, 2005, 03:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigshunt MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 145 Offline	mini uk now do full roof chequer kits, vinyl goes to edge. you can see info on mini.co.uk part numbers are 95.21.0.000.025 black chequer 95.21.0.000.026 white chequer in latest mini accessory brochure

Jan 30th, 2005, 07:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
LeiChat MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 68 Offline	I'm leaning towards this roof decal kit, in black to go on a white roof, as I like their bonnet stripes. (Wouldn't have the rear or side though) more info minisport.co.uk

Jan 30th, 2005, 08:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
bigshunt MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 145 Offline	looks nice, one word of advice, Check with your dealer non BMW approved decals invalidate paint warranty, but for an individual look that might not bother u.

Jan 30th, 2005, 08:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
LeiChat MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 68 Offline	How typical, no wonder the "sales contact" said to tell her what I was after. I expect the "approved" vinyl uses a special (read expensive) adhesive.

Jan 30th, 2005, 11:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
alexpalex MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth Local Time: 11:05 AM Posts: 300 Offline	So...if the roof kit costs a bit more to install because of using the correct film. Does that mean that when it comes to changing it, the cost of the respray isn't included in the original sum. Pay a bit more...it won't be as much as respraying your roof.

Jan 31st, 2005, 12:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mini G Man Now Supercharged. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London Local Time: 03:05 AM Posts: 87 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LeiChat another question, the official bmw roof checks leave a gap round the edge, (see pic below) why? I've seen checks that stretch right to the edge !? that's something I hadn't thought about... thought I'd give it a try on this image Not really a fan of checks, but this picture you posted looks marvellous. I think body coloured checks really suit the car!

Jan 31st, 2005, 09:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
LeiChat MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 68 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alexpalex So...if the roof kit costs a bit more to install because of using the correct film. Does that mean that when it comes to changing it, the cost of the respray isn't included in the original sum. Pay a bit more...it won't be as much as respraying your roof. I'm questioning the truth behind any difference in the vinyl / adhesive. Paying for quality merchandise I have no problem with. Paying for dealer tall tale markup I do. Owned an Elise a few years back, set up a little site for owners to share info etc. Found a company manufacturing billet aluminium window winders, actually billed as for classic minis, but that's what was in the Elise. They were selling for around £20 inc p&p. Lotus struck a deal with them and the dealers were soon selling them for £80 + fitting !!!

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Jan 31st, 2005, 01:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
bigshunt MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 145 Offline	There is a vast difference it appears in fitting costs my advice is ring round other bmw dealers in your area. I have seen in other threads people have them fitted for less than £250. I personally think there is something in the glues and materials. Its like any product there is cheaper stuff and more expensive stuff, I probably got stitched up by the dealer, but at least they gave me nice explanation. Its been extensively tested, he admits others are probably good quality, but at least you have a definite guareente. sales tactic i know, but his final comment was how can we guareente something that hasn't been tested

Jan 31st, 2005, 02:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
alexpalex MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth Local Time: 11:05 AM Posts: 300 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LeiChat I'm questioning the truth behind any difference in the vinyl / adhesive. Paying for quality merchandise I have no problem with. Paying for dealer tall tale markup I do. Owned an Elise a few years back, set up a little site for owners to share info etc. Found a company manufacturing billet aluminium window winders, actually billed as for classic minis, but that's what was in the Elise. They were selling for around £20 inc p&p. Lotus struck a deal with them and the dealers were soon selling them for £80 + fitting !!! I make less profit from 3M than other materials, as it is about 20% more to buy. If you don't believe me about the materials and ashesives, just visit the 3M website, and view the hundreds of product data sheets. Dealers mark up prices, as the actual profit in vehicles is so small. All the money is in aftercare products, such as stripes, extended warranties, floor mats etc. Ask any vinyl company why they use 3M, and the reply will alsways be quality and backup. Reas into the 3M MCS warranty, and then ask yourself why no other vinyl manufacturer in the world offers any kind of warranty with their films...

Jan 31st, 2005, 07:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
LeiChat MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 04:05 AM Posts: 68 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by alexpalex If you don't believe me about the materials and ashesives, just visit the 3M website, and view the hundreds of product data sheets. I do believe you, it's the dealer sales banter I'm not happy with. Quote: Originally Posted by alexpalex Dealers mark up prices, as the actual profit in vehicles is so small. That however I don't believe, there isn't as little profit as they'd want us to believe. Why else would they be giving you 5 years service for £150 !?[/quote]