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Veron781 · Mar 30th, 2005, 11:09 AM

Hi

I've got the clear rear lights on my 04 plate MINI ONE.
Unfortunately, the left cluster is badly condensated, and is now collecting a substantial volume of water, as well as turning the bottom of the cluster a lovely green mould

These are geniune BMW clusters, and still have the serial numbers and stickers attached to them. However, upon returning the car to the dealership to have them looked at, I was told there was a brake in the seal and a fault with the cluster in question.
When I asked for it to be replaced (as I'm not too happy having water anywhere near my electrics

) they said they can't replace the cluster under warranty as its due to 'wear and tear'.

Obviously, I disputed that a rear cluster collecting water inside the actual unit cannot be due to 'wear and tear', and finally, the dealership agreed on replacing the cluster under warranty if I produced a recept.

Unfortunately I don't have a recept

(as I didn't purchase the lights myself directly from BMW, but from another MINI owner, but they are obviously BMW genuine lights..as mentioned above).

I am wondering if anyone on this forum who has previously purchased the clear lights from BMW, and who is no longer needing the recept (for example if you have sold your car on?) wouldn't mind passing on the recept to me. Cheeky I know to ask, but worth a shot, rather than pay the £90 BMW charge for just 1 new light unit! Especially as I've never come across a light collecting so much water before on a car!!

I'm concerned that leaving it in the state it is may result in further damage to the electrics etc

Contact me if you can help

I'd be very grateful

Thanks

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Mar 30th, 2005, 11:45 AM

Sorry I can't help, but it's a darn good idea.

Tigger.

Rakey · Mar 30th, 2005, 11:57 AM

good idea, and hope you get it sorted

but if not I have set for sale on MINI2 if you are interested

Veron781 · Mar 30th, 2005, 12:20 PM

Rakey...are you willing to sell the left cluster on its own?

Rakey · Mar 30th, 2005, 12:52 PM

hahaha, nice try, sure you don't want a spare for the right and top too incase those go

its not much more than the dealer price for one to get the full set, see the for sale section of MINI2

MartinSullivan · Mar 30th, 2005, 01:02 PM

I'll buy the clear brake light , Veron buys the left cluster, all you need to do is find a buyer for the right cluster now

Veron781 · Mar 30th, 2005, 05:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MartinSullivan

I'll buy the clear brake light , Veron buys the left cluster, all you need to do is find a buyer for the right cluster now

Aye, sounds good to me

Veron781 · Mar 30th, 2005, 05:16 PM

Come on!!

I'll pay a tenner for a good quality recept

hehe Must be in good condition though

Parc77 · Mar 30th, 2005, 05:39 PM

V, have you tried taking the car to a differnt dealership? I.E ive just noticed this and I was just passing as I was on the way to see a friend.....it shouldnt have to go back to the garage that supplied them so to speak a part is a part and can be replaced by any one of the Mini garages throughout the country, wear and tear hmmmmm! you might find a date stamp on the part if you purchased them off someone else they could be potentially up to about 4yrs old not sure if this will affect any warranty claim you may have .....If your window seal brakes and water leaks in....is that wear and tear? I think not, that would be replaced due to premature ageing /defective part, would have thought it would be the same scenario with the light issue. Some dealerships tight others helpful........................let us know the outcome

Veron781 · Mar 31st, 2005, 01:53 PM

Anyone?

Veron781 · Apr 4th, 2005, 03:59 PM

* bump* one last time

Veron781 · Apr 16th, 2005, 12:00 PM

Took the car to another local dealer, who took a look at it and ordered a new cluster straight away under warranty

Light cluster was fitted yesterday, and looks top notch

I'm very pleased

Interesting as the the two dealerships are owned by the same company, yet one would do the replacement under warranty, and the other wouldn't!

Rakey · Apr 16th, 2005, 12:18 PM

would you name the dealers you visited and which did the work in the end

Rich_IX · Apr 16th, 2005, 09:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

would you name the dealers you visited and which did the work in the end

It was Lister Park, your favorite dealership Rakey

Went down to get a loads of things fixed under warrenty and they booked it straight in no questions asked...

Veron781 · Apr 16th, 2005, 10:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rich_IX

It was Lister Park, your favorite dealership Rakey

Went down to get a loads of things fixed under warrenty and they booked it straight in no questions asked...

Aye, Rich is indeed correct

The other less helpful dealership was Almondbury

Rakey · Apr 17th, 2005, 01:34 AM

Lister Park

well good to know their stupidity can actually be used to our advantage

Mar 30th, 2005, 11:09 AM	#1
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	Clear rear lights....warranty issue Hi I've got the clear rear lights on my 04 plate MINI ONE. Unfortunately, the left cluster is badly condensated, and is now collecting a substantial volume of water, as well as turning the bottom of the cluster a lovely green mould These are geniune BMW clusters, and still have the serial numbers and stickers attached to them. However, upon returning the car to the dealership to have them looked at, I was told there was a brake in the seal and a fault with the cluster in question. When I asked for it to be replaced (as I'm not too happy having water anywhere near my electrics ) they said they can't replace the cluster under warranty as its due to 'wear and tear'. Obviously, I disputed that a rear cluster collecting water inside the actual unit cannot be due to 'wear and tear', and finally, the dealership agreed on replacing the cluster under warranty if I produced a recept. Unfortunately I don't have a recept (as I didn't purchase the lights myself directly from BMW, but from another MINI owner, but they are obviously BMW genuine lights..as mentioned above). I am wondering if anyone on this forum who has previously purchased the clear lights from BMW, and who is no longer needing the recept (for example if you have sold your car on?) wouldn't mind passing on the recept to me. Cheeky I know to ask, but worth a shot, rather than pay the £90 BMW charge for just 1 new light unit! Especially as I've never come across a light collecting so much water before on a car!! I'm concerned that leaving it in the state it is may result in further damage to the electrics etc Contact me if you can help I'd be very grateful Thanks Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper

Mar 30th, 2005, 11:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 4,572 Offline	Sorry I can't help, but it's a darn good idea. Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Mar 30th, 2005, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 50,029 Offline	good idea, and hope you get it sorted but if not I have set for sale on MINI2 if you are interested The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Mar 30th, 2005, 12:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	Rakey...are you willing to sell the left cluster on its own? Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper

Mar 30th, 2005, 12:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 50,029 Offline	hahaha, nice try, sure you don't want a spare for the right and top too incase those go its not much more than the dealer price for one to get the full set, see the for sale section of MINI2 The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

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Mar 30th, 2005, 01:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
MartinSullivan MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 251 Offline	I'll buy the clear brake light , Veron buys the left cluster, all you need to do is find a buyer for the right cluster now

Mar 30th, 2005, 05:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MartinSullivan I'll buy the clear brake light , Veron buys the left cluster, all you need to do is find a buyer for the right cluster now Aye, sounds good to me Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper

Mar 30th, 2005, 05:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	Come on!! I'll pay a tenner for a good quality recept hehe Must be in good condition though Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper

Mar 30th, 2005, 05:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Parc77 MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 2,345 Offline	V, have you tried taking the car to a differnt dealership? I.E ive just noticed this and I was just passing as I was on the way to see a friend.....it shouldnt have to go back to the garage that supplied them so to speak a part is a part and can be replaced by any one of the Mini garages throughout the country, wear and tear hmmmmm! you might find a date stamp on the part if you purchased them off someone else they could be potentially up to about 4yrs old not sure if this will affect any warranty claim you may have .....If your window seal brakes and water leaks in....is that wear and tear? I think not, that would be replaced due to premature ageing /defective part, would have thought it would be the same scenario with the light issue. Some dealerships tight others helpful........................let us know the outcome

Mar 31st, 2005, 01:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	Anyone? Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper Last edited by Veron781 : Apr 4th, 2005 at 03:58 PM.

Apr 4th, 2005, 03:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	* bump* one last time Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper

Apr 16th, 2005, 12:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	Took the car to another local dealer, who took a look at it and ordered a new cluster straight away under warranty Light cluster was fitted yesterday, and looks top notch I'm very pleased Interesting as the the two dealerships are owned by the same company, yet one would do the replacement under warranty, and the other wouldn't! Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper

Apr 16th, 2005, 12:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 50,029 Offline	would you name the dealers you visited and which did the work in the end The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Apr 16th, 2005, 09:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rich_IX Official Pimp of Mini2 My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Midget Strip Club Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 4,213 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey would you name the dealers you visited and which did the work in the end It was Lister Park, your favorite dealership Rakey Went down to get a loads of things fixed under warrenty and they booked it straight in no questions asked...

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Apr 16th, 2005, 10:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Veron781 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 1,808 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rich_IX It was Lister Park, your favorite dealership Rakey Went down to get a loads of things fixed under warrenty and they booked it straight in no questions asked... Aye, Rich is indeed correct The other less helpful dealership was Almondbury Veronica YK04 Black ONE YF05 Black Cooper YK57 Black Cooper

Apr 17th, 2005, 01:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 12:07 AM Posts: 50,029 Offline	Lister Park well good to know their stupidity can actually be used to our advantage The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

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