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Old Jul 9th, 2002, 07:32 AM   #1
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Passenger Window

Anyone had a problem with their pass window not dropping on opening and closing it works fine on the drivers side but knocks hell out of the roof sill on the pass side.

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Old Jul 9th, 2002, 08:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old Jul 9th, 2002, 08:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Passenger Window

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Anyone had a problem with their pass window not dropping on opening and closing it works fine on the drivers side but knocks hell out of the roof sill on the pass side.

I had that problem for an afternoon - also on the passenger window. Then I tried playing with it.

The window drop-upon-opening feature returned to normal after I ran the window down completely and then back up completely.

Hope it helps you.

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Old Jul 9th, 2002, 12:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Window not closing properly

I have had this same problem and understand it like this. When the window is raised it moves completely up and then drop about 5mm to allow it to close normally. If however you raise the window manually (by holding the up button), like you would for the passenger side or if the ignition was off, and release it just before it gets right to the top (at this stage it would be heigher than it should be to close) it doesn't know to move down and closes against the sill. If you press the up button again it will raise a fraction and then drop the usual 5mm. This explains why everthing was ok for the guy above when he lowered and raised his window completely.

This has happened to me twice. The first time I thought my door was falling off and couldn't understand as it had closed perfectly a few minutes earlier. The second time it happened was when the battery was disconnected when my gear linkage was fixed.

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Old Jul 9th, 2002, 01:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It happened to me only once - the first time the door was opend after I had my remote re-programmed on the date of delivery. It cracked the A frame when I closed the door, which was swiftly replaced a day or so later by my rather embarrassed dealership.

Click here for a pic of the cracked A frame taken on the day of delivery.

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Old Jul 10th, 2002, 06:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Cheers everyone, cars in for other bits today will see if they solve the problem, if not I now know how

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Old Jul 17th, 2002, 09:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Guess I'll join the chorus.

I too have had this happen once. Since I didn't notice it until the passenger door was already closed (no damage) I'm not sure of the raising/lowering sequence that preceded this incident, but I think its entirely possible that it wasn't raised all the way as was suggested. This might also explain why there was no exterior damage to the car or window.

I only had to partially lower the window then raise it again to get the window to operate properly.

Something to look out for, but right now it seems fairly trivial (unless of course I crack the A frame. Yikes!)

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Old Jul 18th, 2002, 08:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Happened to me a couple of times when it was new but not since then. It *might* be that someone shut the door by pushing the top of the window? This means the window isn't aligned when the door shuts and cant go up... I shut the door now by pushing the door itself or the very bottom of the glass...

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Old Jul 18th, 2002, 09:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I shout at Mr DK if he tries to close the door by pushing the glass!!!

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Old Jul 19th, 2002, 02:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Looks like a good argument to have auto up on both windows?? This would over come some of these problems were the glass in not right at the top of it's travel.
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Old Jul 19th, 2002, 10:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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my cooper has done this from day one, contacted mini uk
3 weeks ago still waiting my call back...
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Old Jul 19th, 2002, 11:03 AM   #12 (permalink)
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my cooper has done this from day one, contacted mini uk
3 weeks ago still waiting my call back...

Can the dealer not fix it then?
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Old Jul 19th, 2002, 12:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Can the dealer not fix it then?

Had mine fixed by dealer.

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Old Jul 19th, 2002, 01:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It has not reoccurred since the day I picked up my car, fingers crossed

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Old Jul 21st, 2002, 12:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I had this when I first got my car, then again more recently.

Initially they changed the door handle mechanism, the more recent fault proved to be a water leak in the right "A" pillar which allowed water onto the module which controls the lights, windows, central locking etc.

The only item to be affected was the passenger door window not dropping on opening or closing.

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Old Jul 21st, 2002, 11:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think I may have discovered another way to create this situation. With the passenger window already fully up, I toggled the switch in the up direction wanting to make sure that the window was fully raised. I then turned the ignition off. When the passenger door was opened, the window didn't retract. Reinserting the key, lowering the window slightly then closing it completely "fixed" the problem. I tried to make this happen on the driver side, but it did not prove to be repeatable. Does make a case for auto up IMHO....

Not too concerned at this point. I'll mention to my dealer soon.
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Old Aug 20th, 2002, 11:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Window retraction

I found that if the door is open and the key is on and you press and hold the toggle switch the window goes clear up and then retracts. If the toggle is pressed quickly again the window goes up and stops. I discovered this when I had the windows tinted. This was required so they could get to the very bottom of window with the film. It appears when the toggle is held the window goes up until the computer senses that the window should be completely close then backs it off a bit after a bit of a delay. If the toggle is just tapped when the window has just been retraced the 5 mm it goes up and does not have time to sense it has reached the top and thus it does not retract. I wonder if this is related to what everyone is seeing.
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Old Aug 21st, 2002, 03:54 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Passenger door troubles

Please read my cure for the drivers door, (Window caught on drip rail)and carry out the same procedure. The windows sometimes need re-set,don't know why.
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Old Aug 21st, 2002, 04:07 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Window retraction

I have experimented with the window operation since my post above. I believe what most people are experiencing is a failure of the window to retract when the door is opened. The sequence of event to cause this are.

1. The window is raised completely.
2. The toggle to pressed momentarily to insure the window is completely rolled up. (When you are typically getting ready to exit the car) If the toggle is not pressed for 2 or 3 seconds even when the window is completely closed the computer "forgets" the window is completely closed.
3. The door is now opened and the window does not retract.
4. The door is closed and the window hits.

You can verify this yourself. Rollup the window holding the toggle for several seconds after the window closes. Now tap the toggle in the close direction. Now when the door is opened the window will not retract. Caution before closing the door press and hold the toggle in the up position for several seconds and the window will retract. This press/hold and tapping of the toggle can be done with the door open and the key on. This will demonstrate the same behavior. Just remember when closing the window to hold the toggle for a few seconds after the window closes. I hope this helps.

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Old Aug 21st, 2002, 04:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I thought my windows were just whacky until I found this thread. Everytime I have gotten ready to get out of the car I would hear them retract just a little, & didn't think this was normal so I put them all the way back up. Then when I would close the door there would be a crack between the front window & rear pillar. Thank goodness I didn't break the window......doh........


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