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Mr G · Mar 21st, 2006, 04:31 AM

does anyone else have a car that fogs up?

I can drive my car no matter what time of day, or what the whether for about 10-15 minutes, and i can't see out front or sides. the only way i can see out is to always us my air conditioner.

Bearing in mind this: http://www.mini2.com/forum/faults-fixes/77266-growling-air-conditioner.html I reckon the gods hate me

the first time i reported this they replaced the expansion tank, which seemed to help for a while. They've replaced a couple more since, but it is still fogging up. I know lots of people have had bottles replaced, but does it cause this?

so anyway, Bet you can't guess what they tried to tell me this morning? - "they all do it - probably can't be fixed"

Here we go again.

Paul · Mar 21st, 2006, 08:08 AM

When I used to use the aircon to demist (as I was informed, and rightly so, this was quicker) it seemed to set a president that from that point onwards if I DIDN'T use aircon it would steam up and not demist well at all!

The only way I stopped this viscious cycle was to was the car inside and out (including all glass) and STOP using the aircon to demist.

Hat · Mar 21st, 2006, 08:35 AM

you do get into a cylce with air con like paul describes. once you've used it to dry the air in the car, next time you put the fan on without air con it fills up with (relatively) damp air & mists up. try either running on full heat & full blower for a few minutes or leaving the windows/doors open for 10-15 mins to allow the air inside to return to the same humidity as outside.

they definately don't all do it & it could be you have a bad system or the car interior could be damp somewhere - have you checked all your carpets to see if they are damp?

Paul · Mar 21st, 2006, 08:39 AM

Might be why my major clean cured it as I had doors etc. all open while working on the car.

Which means I could have just opened it up and had a cup of tea, and saved all that hard work?!

Hat · Mar 21st, 2006, 08:43 AM

yup

although once they have steamed up a few times the windows will be dirty/streaky so its worth cleaning them, plus i'm not entirely sure if this holds water scientifically but dirty windows seem to fog up more readily than clean ones.

Mr G · Mar 21st, 2006, 10:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hat

you do get into a cylce with air con like paul describes. once you've used it to dry the air in the car, next time you put the fan on without air con it fills up with (relatively) damp air & mists up. try either running on full heat & full blower for a few minutes or leaving the windows/doors open for 10-15 mins to allow the air inside to return to the same humidity as outside.

they definately don't all do it & it could be you have a bad system or the car interior could be damp somewhere - have you checked all your carpets to see if they are damp?

you may be onto something. I've checked all the carpets etc, and there's no damp. I would say that every time its ever fogged up its been after I use the ac, then switch it off. I wonder if i cleaned all the glass properly then drove it without first using the AC would it fog up? (I use the a/c on vent too, not demist)

dietcokeplease · Mar 21st, 2006, 11:15 AM

Are you using the air recirculation button? Even if you aren't the air recirc mechansim could be stuck in the closed position and causing the condensation problems.

lightbody · Mar 21st, 2006, 12:00 PM

I don't find the cycle too difficult to break out of... wait for dry weather, give the fan a blast with a window open.

On a typical mild wet Glasgow day, when you're in and out of the car in wet clothes, the aircon is a godsend. It means you can have it on 1 and not be misted up, whereas normally it would be at 4 and you couldn't talk to your passengers.

The handbook tells you about the misting up issue...

Mr G · Apr 13th, 2006, 10:59 AM

well bugger me. they fixed something. after first telling me they all do it (as i expected

) they went through my car and fixed a whole raft of bugs. among other things there was a grommet misplaced in the firewall, which was the casue of the car sounding "airy" they fixed the gromet and now it doesn't fog up anymore. it must have been getitng warm (and presumedly damp) air from the engine bay. sounds amazing, but there you go.

Hat · Apr 13th, 2006, 11:31 AM

good to hear they found & fixed it

Mar 21st, 2006, 04:31 AM	#1
Mr G Its not me - Its you Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spiffington Manse Local Time: 04:56 PM Posts: 3,124 Offline	fogging up - fixed! does anyone else have a car that fogs up? I can drive my car no matter what time of day, or what the whether for about 10-15 minutes, and i can't see out front or sides. the only way i can see out is to always us my air conditioner. Bearing in mind this: http://www.mini2.com/forum/faults-fixes/77266-growling-air-conditioner.html I reckon the gods hate me the first time i reported this they replaced the expansion tank, which seemed to help for a while. They've replaced a couple more since, but it is still fogging up. I know lots of people have had bottles replaced, but does it cause this? so anyway, Bet you can't guess what they tried to tell me this morning? - "they all do it - probably can't be fixed" Here we go again. I love Warsaw. Where else can you hug a pole? If you have any information, any information at all, please contact me as I'm writing an encyclopaedia. Last edited by Mr G : Apr 13th, 2006 at 10:54 AM.

Mar 21st, 2006, 08:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 38,595 Offline	When I used to use the aircon to demist (as I was informed, and rightly so, this was quicker) it seemed to set a president that from that point onwards if I DIDN'T use aircon it would steam up and not demist well at all! The only way I stopped this viscious cycle was to was the car inside and out (including all glass) and STOP using the aircon to demist. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Mar 21st, 2006, 08:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 38,595 Offline	Might be why my major clean cured it as I had doors etc. all open while working on the car. Which means I could have just opened it up and had a cup of tea, and saved all that hard work?! There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Mar 21st, 2006, 10:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr G Its not me - Its you Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spiffington Manse Local Time: 04:56 PM Posts: 3,124 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hat you do get into a cylce with air con like paul describes. once you've used it to dry the air in the car, next time you put the fan on without air con it fills up with (relatively) damp air & mists up. try either running on full heat & full blower for a few minutes or leaving the windows/doors open for 10-15 mins to allow the air inside to return to the same humidity as outside. they definately don't all do it & it could be you have a bad system or the car interior could be damp somewhere - have you checked all your carpets to see if they are damp? you may be onto something. I've checked all the carpets etc, and there's no damp. I would say that every time its ever fogged up its been after I use the ac, then switch it off. I wonder if i cleaned all the glass properly then drove it without first using the AC would it fog up? (I use the a/c on vent too, not demist) I love Warsaw. Where else can you hug a pole? If you have any information, any information at all, please contact me as I'm writing an encyclopaedia.

Mar 21st, 2006, 11:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
dietcokeplease Official MINI2 Fluffer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spearmint Rhino Local Time: 06:56 AM Posts: 5,234 Offline	Are you using the air recirculation button? Even if you aren't the air recirc mechansim could be stuck in the closed position and causing the condensation problems. There is just one moon and one golden sun; And a smile mean friendship to ev'ryone; Through the mountains divide, and the oceans are wide; It's a small world after all.

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Mar 21st, 2006, 08:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hat Wolves Did It! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 15,638 Offline	you do get into a cylce with air con like paul describes. once you've used it to dry the air in the car, next time you put the fan on without air con it fills up with (relatively) damp air & mists up. try either running on full heat & full blower for a few minutes or leaving the windows/doors open for 10-15 mins to allow the air inside to return to the same humidity as outside. they definately don't all do it & it could be you have a bad system or the car interior could be damp somewhere - have you checked all your carpets to see if they are damp?

Mar 21st, 2006, 08:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
Hat Wolves Did It! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 15,638 Offline	yup although once they have steamed up a few times the windows will be dirty/streaky so its worth cleaning them, plus i'm not entirely sure if this holds water scientifically but dirty windows seem to fog up more readily than clean ones.

Mar 21st, 2006, 12:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
lightbody MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 892 Offline	I don't find the cycle too difficult to break out of... wait for dry weather, give the fan a blast with a window open. On a typical mild wet Glasgow day, when you're in and out of the car in wet clothes, the aircon is a godsend. It means you can have it on 1 and not be misted up, whereas normally it would be at 4 and you couldn't talk to your passengers. The handbook tells you about the misting up issue... Rob Lightbody - http://www.roblightbody.com 2004 Red/Black Cooper replaced a 2001 BRG/White Cooper

Apr 13th, 2006, 10:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mr G Its not me - Its you Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spiffington Manse Local Time: 04:56 PM Posts: 3,124 Offline	well bugger me. they fixed something. after first telling me they all do it (as i expected ) they went through my car and fixed a whole raft of bugs. among other things there was a grommet misplaced in the firewall, which was the casue of the car sounding "airy" they fixed the gromet and now it doesn't fog up anymore. it must have been getitng warm (and presumedly damp) air from the engine bay. sounds amazing, but there you go. I love Warsaw. Where else can you hug a pole? If you have any information, any information at all, please contact me as I'm writing an encyclopaedia.

Apr 13th, 2006, 11:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Hat Wolves Did It! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 15,638 Offline	good to hear they found & fixed it

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