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phil2608 · Aug 15th, 2006, 01:06 PM

Hi,

I dont really post on here so forgive me if this topic has been covered many times before or Im posting it in the wrong forum etc.

I was Just on my lunch break about an hour ago. Driving back to the office and tried to open my passenger side window using the switch on the dash as usual- but it didnt budge??? The windows just stuck ( in the closed position - thankfully) .

I own an out-of-warranty 2002 (02) mini one, salt pack, with 66k on the clock.

I have no idea what the problem could be. Any info relating to this problem or the best way to deal with it/ fix it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

KPKalle · Aug 15th, 2006, 01:08 PM

Is it very hot? The outside temperature that is, not the window.

Robboc · Aug 15th, 2006, 02:36 PM

this happened to me here in UK on our hottest day. Once it cooled down (after driving a few miles) it opened again. Has never happened since.

I guess it is just a very tight fit and the expanding metalwork was holding it closed against the motor.

Bajanmini · Aug 15th, 2006, 03:13 PM

Interesting topic,i have a similar prob with my cooper,i parked it in the sun for a week while i was away,and passenger window is stuck shut,car is in the Caribbean so you better believe it is hot,it's out of warranty and i hate driving it with the aircon on as it looses power and not as nice to drive,i would love to hear the fix on this one.Peter

phil2608 · Aug 15th, 2006, 03:22 PM

It's not hot at all to be perfectly honest. in fact it's the coolest it's been for about 2 months here in staffordshire. I might go to the stealership to see whats up with it and how much it may cost to fix.

Bajanmini · Aug 15th, 2006, 03:34 PM

Keep me posted Phil,i have a workshop manual and a code reader so as to stay as far from the dealer as possible,they are right rip off artist over here.Regards

KPKalle · Aug 15th, 2006, 04:10 PM

My driver's window stuck when it was very hot here a couple of weeks ago. Of course when I took the car into the dealer to be looked at it was early in the morning and cool and it worked perfectly

And it's been fine ever since - but then the weather's been cool too.

Bajanmini · Aug 15th, 2006, 04:24 PM

It aint never going to get cool around here guys,and my window has been shut for a month.It's really strange that you can just park a car and the window dont work,that is not an indication of a burnt out motor,when you flick the switch on the dash you can hear the solonoid in the door clicking but there's no joy,maybe i'll try pouring ice water over the car at 5.30 am and give it a try,lol.Peter

Claire_S · Aug 15th, 2006, 07:03 PM

it may be the motor... apparently if just one tinypart of the motor goes the solenoid will still click on and off? mine did this....the stealership quoted £350 for a new motor and when i went to pick it up it cost £35. apparently they can just get hot and sticky!

William Courant · Aug 15th, 2006, 08:43 PM

This is a well known problem on these cars.

So much so that if BMW were righteous about it, they'd do a re-call. I've had both the window motors replaced on my 03 Mini and they're starting to act up again.

It starts out with the solenoid clicking and windows not dropping when the door is opened and gradually progresses to total failure. Problem is, my Mini will probably be out of warranty when they go out completely and unless they can duplicate the problem. no fix under warranty

Bajanmini · Aug 16th, 2006, 10:51 AM

Thanks William for the imput,guess the door panel is going to come off,that's why i bought a workshop manual,so hopefully the fix will be the cost of a new motor.Around here we say BMW stands for (bring money withyou).

phil2608 · Aug 16th, 2006, 11:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bajanmini (original)

Around here we say BMW stands for (bring money withyou).

Literally! I just called knights bmw services department in newcastle-under-lyme. And they want £29 + vat Not to fix it but just to assess what the problem actually is!

Minis are so expensive. Im getting sick of shelling out so much money for my car.

Im going to buy a golf!

wrecky · Aug 16th, 2006, 05:12 PM

last time that happened to me, it costed me big bucks, as my motor was gone.

and about a yr later, the drivers side crapped itself and costed me more big bucks.

William Courant · Aug 16th, 2006, 08:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bajanmini (original)

Thanks William for the imput,guess the door panel is going to come off,that's why i bought a workshop manual,so hopefully the fix will be the cost of a new motor.Around here we say BMW stands for (bring money withyou).

Bring money with you

Exactly!!! Same over here. Just had to have the AC compressor replaced. Thank goodness it was still under warrenty

Otherwise it would have been $1000.

phil2608 · Aug 17th, 2006, 02:28 PM

Just got off the phone with Knights Bmw parts department; the guy told me that 9 out of 10 times the problem is with the Motor and the other times its the Regulator.

a Motor costs £60.50 inc V.AT and the Regulator costs £76.00 inc V.A.T

I've decided to get it fixed in a couple of weeks by the body shop who are fixing a scratch I've got on the drivers side wing.

Still ****ed off

William Courant · Aug 17th, 2006, 08:24 PM

60:50 (Sorry, don't have a pound sign) At the current rate of exchange that works out to about $121 Beats the heck out of the $500 the dealer charges to fix it. Gotta get one of those manuals !!!!!!!

otterdog · Aug 30th, 2006, 08:59 PM

I have this problem with both windows from time to time. It seams related to heat since it only happens to me in the summer (Dallas summer). Very common problem. Anyway, I read this fix on some other forum (luckily, before I spent any $$$ on a fix), and it always works for me.
Dont laugh now... take your fist and pound on the door (the one with the stuck window) just above the speaker fairly hard. Now try the window.
Good luck, it has not failed me yet.

E Yorks Andy · Aug 30th, 2006, 10:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by otterdog (original)

I have this problem with both windows from time to time. It seams related to heat since it only happens to me in the summer (Dallas summer). Very common problem. Anyway, I read this fix on some other forum (luckily, before I spent any $$$ on a fix), and it always works for me.
Dont laugh now... take your fist and pound on the door (the one with the stuck window) just above the speaker fairly hard. Now try the window.
Good luck, it has not failed me yet.

I can vouch for this, it does work. Its happened to my drivers window about 7 or 8 times so far and a couple of thumps on the door panel sorts it out. I guess it will eventually fail completely but I figure I might as well get as much life out of it as possible. Mine doesn't seem to be related to outside temperature though.....

yellowmininy · Aug 31st, 2006, 09:21 PM

My passennger window does this occaisonally, especially after sitting out on a hot day, or after it rains. It clicks but no action. I haven't whacked mine yet (but have been tempted), though if you hold the switch up for 10-20 sec sometimes that will work.

shiredweller · Sep 6th, 2006, 10:28 PM

Got my drivers side window motor replaced today. Took about 30 min. Under warranty.
Tried pounding on the door. Made me feel better but did not fix problem.

Aug 15th, 2006, 01:06 PM	#1
phil2608 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 8 Offline	Passenger Window wont open??? Hi, I dont really post on here so forgive me if this topic has been covered many times before or Im posting it in the wrong forum etc. I was Just on my lunch break about an hour ago. Driving back to the office and tried to open my passenger side window using the switch on the dash as usual- but it didnt budge??? The windows just stuck ( in the closed position - thankfully) . I own an out-of-warranty 2002 (02) mini one, salt pack, with 66k on the clock. I have no idea what the problem could be. Any info relating to this problem or the best way to deal with it/ fix it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Aug 15th, 2006, 01:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
KPKalle Knight of the Round Table Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Midhurst, Sussex Local Time: 10:18 PM Posts: 21,300 Offline	Is it very hot? The outside temperature that is, not the window. Global Moderator

Aug 15th, 2006, 04:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
KPKalle Knight of the Round Table Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Midhurst, Sussex Local Time: 10:18 PM Posts: 21,300 Offline	My driver's window stuck when it was very hot here a couple of weeks ago. Of course when I took the car into the dealer to be looked at it was early in the morning and cool and it worked perfectly And it's been fine ever since - but then the weather's been cool too. Global Moderator

Aug 15th, 2006, 08:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
William Courant MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Alameda, CA Local Time: 02:18 PM Posts: 318 Offline	This is a well known problem on these cars. So much so that if BMW were righteous about it, they'd do a re-call. I've had both the window motors replaced on my 03 Mini and they're starting to act up again. It starts out with the solenoid clicking and windows not dropping when the door is opened and gradually progresses to total failure. Problem is, my Mini will probably be out of warranty when they go out completely and unless they can duplicate the problem. no fix under warranty A car, A legend, A way of life

Aug 16th, 2006, 05:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
wrecky MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 07:18 AM Posts: 157 Offline	last time that happened to me, it costed me big bucks, as my motor was gone. and about a yr later, the drivers side crapped itself and costed me more big bucks. Nos-ing it all the way home...

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Aug 15th, 2006, 02:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Robboc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Epsom, Surrey Local Time: 10:18 PM Posts: 286 Offline	this happened to me here in UK on our hottest day. Once it cooled down (after driving a few miles) it opened again. Has never happened since. I guess it is just a very tight fit and the expanding metalwork was holding it closed against the motor.

Aug 15th, 2006, 03:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bajanmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 05:18 PM Posts: 110 Offline	Interesting topic,i have a similar prob with my cooper,i parked it in the sun for a week while i was away,and passenger window is stuck shut,car is in the Caribbean so you better believe it is hot,it's out of warranty and i hate driving it with the aircon on as it looses power and not as nice to drive,i would love to hear the fix on this one.Peter

Aug 15th, 2006, 03:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
phil2608 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 8 Offline	It's not hot at all to be perfectly honest. in fact it's the coolest it's been for about 2 months here in staffordshire. I might go to the stealership to see whats up with it and how much it may cost to fix.

Aug 15th, 2006, 03:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bajanmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 05:18 PM Posts: 110 Offline	Keep me posted Phil,i have a workshop manual and a code reader so as to stay as far from the dealer as possible,they are right rip off artist over here.Regards

Aug 15th, 2006, 04:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bajanmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 05:18 PM Posts: 110 Offline	It aint never going to get cool around here guys,and my window has been shut for a month.It's really strange that you can just park a car and the window dont work,that is not an indication of a burnt out motor,when you flick the switch on the dash you can hear the solonoid in the door clicking but there's no joy,maybe i'll try pouring ice water over the car at 5.30 am and give it a try,lol.Peter

Aug 15th, 2006, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Claire_S oh yeah...and Pablo!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Plymouth Local Time: 10:18 PM Posts: 197 Offline	it may be the motor... apparently if just one tinypart of the motor goes the solenoid will still click on and off? mine did this....the stealership quoted £350 for a new motor and when i went to pick it up it cost £35. apparently they can just get hot and sticky!

Aug 16th, 2006, 10:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Bajanmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 05:18 PM Posts: 110 Offline	Thanks William for the imput,guess the door panel is going to come off,that's why i bought a workshop manual,so hopefully the fix will be the cost of a new motor.Around here we say BMW stands for (bring money withyou).

Aug 16th, 2006, 11:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
phil2608 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 8 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Bajanmini (original) Around here we say BMW stands for (bring money withyou). Literally! I just called knights bmw services department in newcastle-under-lyme. And they want £29 + vat Not to fix it but just to assess what the problem actually is! Minis are so expensive. Im getting sick of shelling out so much money for my car. Im going to buy a golf!

Aug 16th, 2006, 08:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
William Courant MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Alameda, CA Local Time: 02:18 PM Posts: 318 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Bajanmini (original) Thanks William for the imput,guess the door panel is going to come off,that's why i bought a workshop manual,so hopefully the fix will be the cost of a new motor.Around here we say BMW stands for (bring money withyou). Bring money with you Exactly!!! Same over here. Just had to have the AC compressor replaced. Thank goodness it was still under warrenty Otherwise it would have been $1000. A car, A legend, A way of life

Aug 17th, 2006, 02:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
phil2608 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 8 Offline	Just got off the phone with Knights Bmw parts department; the guy told me that 9 out of 10 times the problem is with the Motor and the other times its the Regulator. a Motor costs £60.50 inc V.AT and the Regulator costs £76.00 inc V.A.T I've decided to get it fixed in a couple of weeks by the body shop who are fixing a scratch I've got on the drivers side wing. Still ****ed off

Aug 17th, 2006, 08:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
William Courant MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Alameda, CA Local Time: 02:18 PM Posts: 318 Offline	60:50 (Sorry, don't have a pound sign) At the current rate of exchange that works out to about $121 Beats the heck out of the $500 the dealer charges to fix it. Gotta get one of those manuals !!!!!!! A car, A legend, A way of life

Aug 30th, 2006, 08:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
otterdog Indi-Blue Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Local Time: 04:18 PM Posts: 1 Offline	I have this problem with both windows from time to time. It seams related to heat since it only happens to me in the summer (Dallas summer). Very common problem. Anyway, I read this fix on some other forum (luckily, before I spent any $$$ on a fix), and it always works for me. Dont laugh now... take your fist and pound on the door (the one with the stuck window) just above the speaker fairly hard. Now try the window. Good luck, it has not failed me yet.

Aug 30th, 2006, 10:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
E Yorks Andy MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 19 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by otterdog (original) I have this problem with both windows from time to time. It seams related to heat since it only happens to me in the summer (Dallas summer). Very common problem. Anyway, I read this fix on some other forum (luckily, before I spent any $$$ on a fix), and it always works for me. Dont laugh now... take your fist and pound on the door (the one with the stuck window) just above the speaker fairly hard. Now try the window. Good luck, it has not failed me yet. I can vouch for this, it does work. Its happened to my drivers window about 7 or 8 times so far and a couple of thumps on the door panel sorts it out. I guess it will eventually fail completely but I figure I might as well get as much life out of it as possible. Mine doesn't seem to be related to outside temperature though.....

Aug 31st, 2006, 09:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
yellowmininy QQJ's Social Secretary Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Upstate NY Local Time: 04:18 PM Posts: 7,028 Offline	My passennger window does this occaisonally, especially after sitting out on a hot day, or after it rains. It clicks but no action. I haven't whacked mine yet (but have been tempted), though if you hold the switch up for 10-20 sec sometimes that will work.

Sep 6th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
shiredweller MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2003 Local Time: 04:18 PM Posts: 2,635 Offline	Got my drivers side window motor replaced today. Took about 30 min. Under warranty. Tried pounding on the door. Made me feel better but did not fix problem. .........but I could be wrong.

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