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thepharcyde · Sep 24th, 2006, 08:10 AM

So my car has developed this! Looked at the forums and then booked it into the dealership.

1st visit. Well it needs a new clutch and thrust bearing. Get a call, its ready to pick up no more noise. Couple of days later the noise is back.

2nd visit. News a new flywheel, have to wait for BMW approval. Booked 2 weeks later. Pick it up yesterday. The ******* is still making the noise. How the hell can they say its fixed when its not. Went back in and told service manager, who then came out sat in the car. Agreed the noise had not gone. Well we are going to have to wait for the BMW service manager who visits every 8 weeks to look at it. It prob needs a new gearbox.

But after reading on the forums, I have heard that even this does not sometimes cure it!!!! Does anyone know what the problem is, and if I am to get it back and it is still rattling, can I ask for another car?

I brought it 2nd hand under the cherished option, its a July 04 with 17k on the clock.

Man I wish I kept mu Focus ST170, 2 years of no rattles squeeks! BMW have a lot to live upto.

JG.26 · Sep 24th, 2006, 08:44 PM

The Getrag box isn't the quietest in this world, theyre all noisy some more than others. Mine is on my S is when idling, always has done since new 3 years and doesn't seem to get any worse.

Wouldn't worry about it and enjoy your MINI, if you do a search there's plenty on this subject on MINI2

minigolf · Sep 25th, 2006, 01:53 AM

My 04.04 MCS has just started doing this too. Only when cold though. There is a very slight rattle that you don't really notice has stopped until it has stopped, if that makes sense. Depressing the clutch pedal momentarily causes the rattle to cease???

thepharcyde · Sep 25th, 2006, 08:07 AM

Nah it should not rattle. My old ST170 shares the same gearbox, and was as silent as anything. It sounds really bad first thing in the morning, and even at the lights you can hear it in neutral. Its a noise which has developed, so IMO and the fact BMW know of this issue should sort it period. Whos to say that something serious may break after the warranty expires then I may get shafted with a huge repair bill.

Neil the Hat · Sep 25th, 2006, 04:01 PM

From what I have read on here in the past it is pinion clatter and is a known isue and doesn't effect your car in the slightest.

You may have had all those parts replaced for nothing.

Had it on my 04' Cooper S and have it (though not as loud and only when cold) on my 05' Cooper S too.

I believe the explanation was posted by Roland2003 of GTT, might be worth doing an Advanced search for posts made by him.

venox22 · Sep 28th, 2006, 07:37 AM

Yeah i had the same noise, they changed the thrust bearing twice then the flywheel twice, noise is still there a tiny bit, buts its nothing to worry about

Id rather have a cooper with with no gearbox at all than a perfect Focus ST

Quote: Originally Posted by thepharcyde (original)

So my car has developed this! Looked at the forums and then booked it into the dealership.

1st visit. Well it needs a new clutch and thrust bearing. Get a call, its ready to pick up no more noise. Couple of days later the noise is back.

2nd visit. News a new flywheel, have to wait for BMW approval. Booked 2 weeks later. Pick it up yesterday. The ******* is still making the noise. How the hell can they say its fixed when its not. Went back in and told service manager, who then came out sat in the car. Agreed the noise had not gone. Well we are going to have to wait for the BMW service manager who visits every 8 weeks to look at it. It prob needs a new gearbox.

But after reading on the forums, I have heard that even this does not sometimes cure it!!!! Does anyone know what the problem is, and if I am to get it back and it is still rattling, can I ask for another car?

I brought it 2nd hand under the cherished option, its a July 04 with 17k on the clock.

Man I wish I kept mu Focus ST170, 2 years of no rattles squeeks! BMW have a lot to live upto.

Berger · Sep 29th, 2006, 03:52 PM

But I've read that there is a new and upgraded flywheel which cures the rattle in neutral...?

Read under the "gearbox-rattle"-topic, and the part-and bulletin number will be there..

I've just delivered mine back to service, and they will order the new flywheel for me

thepharcyde · Oct 18th, 2006, 11:13 AM

clutch does not cure it, neither does a new flywheel.

I have mine going in tomorrow for a new gearbox

twouptons · Oct 18th, 2006, 08:42 PM

Is a July '04 the Getrag 'box? I don't remember when the switch happened...

We had a similar problem, but only when warm. The car chattered when the pedal was depressed, regardless of gear, but it shut right up when a gear was engaged. The dealer put in a new clutch last week, and that seems to have fixed it...

-Eric

Berger · Oct 22nd, 2006, 08:56 PM

There is probably not a definite fix to this problem.

I have done following:

- 2 new clutches
- One new gearbox
- One new flywheel

The rattle stops for a few days or weeks, and then returns.

I am really sick and tired of delivering my car to the dealer to no avail.

Almost feel sorry for the dealer who has tried everything to help me.

I am considering two options right now; keeping my car without caring about the rattle or buying a BMW 1-series..

Sep 24th, 2006, 08:10 AM	#1
thepharcyde MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Local Time: 06:58 AM Posts: 44 Offline	Clutch rattle So my car has developed this! Looked at the forums and then booked it into the dealership. 1st visit. Well it needs a new clutch and thrust bearing. Get a call, its ready to pick up no more noise. Couple of days later the noise is back. 2nd visit. News a new flywheel, have to wait for BMW approval. Booked 2 weeks later. Pick it up yesterday. The ******* is still making the noise. How the hell can they say its fixed when its not. Went back in and told service manager, who then came out sat in the car. Agreed the noise had not gone. Well we are going to have to wait for the BMW service manager who visits every 8 weeks to look at it. It prob needs a new gearbox. But after reading on the forums, I have heard that even this does not sometimes cure it!!!! Does anyone know what the problem is, and if I am to get it back and it is still rattling, can I ask for another car? I brought it 2nd hand under the cherished option, its a July 04 with 17k on the clock. Man I wish I kept mu Focus ST170, 2 years of no rattles squeeks! BMW have a lot to live upto.

Sep 25th, 2006, 01:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
minigolf Blue is the colour! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canberra, Australia Local Time: 05:58 PM Posts: 13,075 Offline	My 04.04 MCS has just started doing this too. Only when cold though. There is a very slight rattle that you don't really notice has stopped until it has stopped, if that makes sense. Depressing the clutch pedal momentarily causes the rattle to cease??? Sabine Schmitz: Fear disturbs your concentration.

Sep 25th, 2006, 04:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Neil the Hat MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Coast Local Time: 07:58 AM Posts: 519 Offline	From what I have read on here in the past it is pinion clatter and is a known isue and doesn't effect your car in the slightest. You may have had all those parts replaced for nothing. Had it on my 04' Cooper S and have it (though not as loud and only when cold) on my 05' Cooper S too. I believe the explanation was posted by Roland2003 of GTT, might be worth doing an Advanced search for posts made by him. For MINIs on the South Coast it has to be the South Coast New MINI Club

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Sep 24th, 2006, 08:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
JG.26 MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Virtual World Local Time: 07:58 AM Posts: 1,032 Offline	The Getrag box isn't the quietest in this world, theyre all noisy some more than others. Mine is on my S is when idling, always has done since new 3 years and doesn't seem to get any worse. Wouldn't worry about it and enjoy your MINI, if you do a search there's plenty on this subject on MINI2

Sep 25th, 2006, 08:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
thepharcyde MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Local Time: 06:58 AM Posts: 44 Offline	Nah it should not rattle. My old ST170 shares the same gearbox, and was as silent as anything. It sounds really bad first thing in the morning, and even at the lights you can hear it in neutral. Its a noise which has developed, so IMO and the fact BMW know of this issue should sort it period. Whos to say that something serious may break after the warranty expires then I may get shafted with a huge repair bill.

Sep 28th, 2006, 07:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 07:58 AM Posts: 1,138 Offline	Yeah i had the same noise, they changed the thrust bearing twice then the flywheel twice, noise is still there a tiny bit, buts its nothing to worry about Id rather have a cooper with with no gearbox at all than a perfect Focus ST Quote: Originally Posted by thepharcyde (original) So my car has developed this! Looked at the forums and then booked it into the dealership. 1st visit. Well it needs a new clutch and thrust bearing. Get a call, its ready to pick up no more noise. Couple of days later the noise is back. 2nd visit. News a new flywheel, have to wait for BMW approval. Booked 2 weeks later. Pick it up yesterday. The ******* is still making the noise. How the hell can they say its fixed when its not. Went back in and told service manager, who then came out sat in the car. Agreed the noise had not gone. Well we are going to have to wait for the BMW service manager who visits every 8 weeks to look at it. It prob needs a new gearbox. But after reading on the forums, I have heard that even this does not sometimes cure it!!!! Does anyone know what the problem is, and if I am to get it back and it is still rattling, can I ask for another car? I brought it 2nd hand under the cherished option, its a July 04 with 17k on the clock. Man I wish I kept mu Focus ST170, 2 years of no rattles squeeks! BMW have a lot to live upto.

Sep 29th, 2006, 03:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Berger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Local Time: 06:58 AM Posts: 102 Offline	But I've read that there is a new and upgraded flywheel which cures the rattle in neutral...? Read under the "gearbox-rattle"-topic, and the part-and bulletin number will be there.. I've just delivered mine back to service, and they will order the new flywheel for me

Oct 18th, 2006, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
thepharcyde MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Local Time: 06:58 AM Posts: 44 Offline	clutch does not cure it, neither does a new flywheel. I have mine going in tomorrow for a new gearbox

Oct 18th, 2006, 08:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
twouptons What's this button do? Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Our Own Little World Local Time: 01:58 AM Posts: 565 Offline	Is a July '04 the Getrag 'box? I don't remember when the switch happened... We had a similar problem, but only when warm. The car chattered when the pedal was depressed, regardless of gear, but it shut right up when a gear was engaged. The dealer put in a new clutch last week, and that seems to have fixed it... -Eric

Oct 22nd, 2006, 08:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Berger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Local Time: 06:58 AM Posts: 102 Offline	There is probably not a definite fix to this problem. I have done following: - 2 new clutches - One new gearbox - One new flywheel The rattle stops for a few days or weeks, and then returns. I am really sick and tired of delivering my car to the dealer to no avail. Almost feel sorry for the dealer who has tried everything to help me. I am considering two options right now; keeping my car without caring about the rattle or buying a BMW 1-series..

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